Strictly Palms pics

StrictlyPalms · 26th July 2008, 07:25 AM

A very dirty Washingtonia

Cleaned up nicely

Another client before and after

newguy18 · 26th July 2008, 02:52 PM

Good deal,i see your also doing it spikeless,whatever works best for you i guess.

StrictlyPalms · 26th July 2008, 04:24 PM

Yup, I love the climbing. Also, I ordered the baumvelo climbers from Grube in Germany. Should be here in 30 days or so. I'll be able to zip up and down the trees that are smooth to trim the crowns quicker than snot.

Jeff Darby · 26th July 2008, 04:31 PM

Nice job, just be carefull with these Washies They have history of the skirt failling and often killing the climber.

We try and aproach from the top down

. Keep the pictures coming.

StrictlyPalms · 26th July 2008, 04:44 PM

yup, I've been looking at how some of the guys go top down... I like that technique. Safer and less shit falling in my face. These washingtonias skirts were all pretty beat up by hurricanes, one good thing about Florida palm skirts... they don't tend to get that big without losing all the fans from 200mph winds.

newguy18 · 27th July 2008, 02:44 AM

After you get your spikes buy those cady pads,they are the best by far.i love my steel bucks with caddy pads.

Victor Lindsay · 27th July 2008, 04:02 PM

I've been doing more of them lately also. I charge $195.00 and up per if the skirts are over three years old.

Eric Frei · 27th July 2008, 09:05 PM

Hard to get those sorts of dollars on the jobs here.

Be good to see and hear about those climbers in real action.

I just wonder how that much crap ended up on the house roof and you were close to the bottom?

StrictlyPalms · 27th July 2008, 10:37 PM

The HO, also a close friend asked me to drop the fronds down to the roof once I moved up to that level, to spare the fern garden/water feature at the bottom of the tree. His wife was very pleased with the results and the lack of damage to the Aussie fern trees she has. Also the roof was easier to sweep off afterwards.

As soon as I get the Baumvelo climbers I'll start documenting them.

Also, pricing... I've been thinking about a $30 per tree +$20/Hr.

I think this would enable me to cover straight trim jobs as well as cleaning the entire stem or beard with fair pricing.

The job above was a full cleaning, from the bottom up of the short husks, the beard started at about 25' on the 50' tree. Total cleaning/trimming time 4.5 hrs, 30+90=$120.00 120/4.5= $26.66/hr and the HO did the roof clean up, dropping the fronds down to a large trailer. I'm sure this isn't the best way to charge for my time, but I'm still learning.

Victor Lindsay · 28th July 2008, 12:10 AM

Here are my thoughts on pricing. Your climbers will cost about $3000.00 after shipping. The climbers as well as everything else, (ropes, chainsaws, truck, ect) has a life. To make this easy, lets say one year and you need to replace it, (asset recovery). To recover/replace this asset you need to charge $1.45 per hour, so now you're down to 25.21. Add all the other assets that need to be recovered/replaced and well you see were this is going. I've been in bussiness 17 years. I've seen many companys come and go. The biggest reason they fail...they forget they need to replace equipment that wears out. My truck needs replaced in 5 years, my chainsaws every 4, and my ropes every year. Even if I can make my equipment last longer at least I have the money to replace it when needed. Lets not even get into gas prices, insurance, man power, ect. jm2cents

Victor Lindsay · 28th July 2008, 12:17 AM

The going price for coconut palms down here is 65.00 per tree. The wash palm is a big workmans comp tree, people getting poked all the time. Its a hazorduos tree to clean, so it makes sence you need to charge more. Canary island dates can get around $250.00 each because of those needles. jm2c

StrictlyPalms · 28th July 2008, 06:14 PM

Thanks Vl great advice,

Is that $65 per tree any height? And does it include cleaning all the old husks down to bare stem?

JohN Dee · 28th July 2008, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vl2007

The going price for coconut palms down here is 65.00 per tree. The wash palm is a big workmans comp tree, people getting poked all the time. Its a hazorduos tree to clean, so it makes sence you need to charge more. Canary island dates can get around $250.00 each because of those needles. jm2c

When dealing with the barbed vines, palms and trees I like to use Welders gloves, the ones that go all the way to the elbow. They really work wonders against the scratches and cuts. I've never ascended a tree in them though, only ever used them on the ground...

A word of caution though, if you work with a crew of 2+ people on these types of jobs either take 2 or more sets of gloves or don't take yours along because if you're the only one with the welders gloves the rest will stand back and watch you work

26th July 2008, 07:25 AM	#1
StrictlyPalms Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida USA Posts: 177	Strictly Palms pics A very dirty Washingtonia Cleaned up nicely Another client before and after __________________ Strictly Palms, Inc. Orlando, Florida USA

26th July 2008, 02:52 PM	#2
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Strictly Palms pics Good deal,i see your also doing it spikeless,whatever works best for you i guess. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

26th July 2008, 04:24 PM	#3
StrictlyPalms Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida USA Posts: 177	Re: Strictly Palms pics Yup, I love the climbing. Also, I ordered the baumvelo climbers from Grube in Germany. Should be here in 30 days or so. I'll be able to zip up and down the trees that are smooth to trim the crowns quicker than snot. __________________ Strictly Palms, Inc. Orlando, Florida USA

26th July 2008, 04:31 PM	#4
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,031	Re: Strictly Palms pics Nice job, just be carefull with these Washies They have history of the skirt failling and often killing the climber. We try and aproach from the top down. Keep the pictures coming. __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

26th July 2008, 04:44 PM	#5
StrictlyPalms Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida USA Posts: 177	Re: Strictly Palms pics yup, I've been looking at how some of the guys go top down... I like that technique. Safer and less shit falling in my face. These washingtonias skirts were all pretty beat up by hurricanes, one good thing about Florida palm skirts... they don't tend to get that big without losing all the fans from 200mph winds. __________________ Strictly Palms, Inc. Orlando, Florida USA

27th July 2008, 02:44 AM	#6
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Strictly Palms pics After you get your spikes buy those cady pads,they are the best by far.i love my steel bucks with caddy pads. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

27th July 2008, 04:02 PM	#7
Victor Lindsay Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 421	Re: Strictly Palms pics I've been doing more of them lately also. I charge $195.00 and up per if the skirts are over three years old.

27th July 2008, 09:05 PM	#8
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Strictly Palms pics Hard to get those sorts of dollars on the jobs here. Be good to see and hear about those climbers in real action. I just wonder how that much crap ended up on the house roof and you were close to the bottom? __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

27th July 2008, 10:37 PM	#9
StrictlyPalms Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida USA Posts: 177	Re: Strictly Palms pics The HO, also a close friend asked me to drop the fronds down to the roof once I moved up to that level, to spare the fern garden/water feature at the bottom of the tree. His wife was very pleased with the results and the lack of damage to the Aussie fern trees she has. Also the roof was easier to sweep off afterwards. As soon as I get the Baumvelo climbers I'll start documenting them. Also, pricing... I've been thinking about a $30 per tree +$20/Hr. I think this would enable me to cover straight trim jobs as well as cleaning the entire stem or beard with fair pricing. The job above was a full cleaning, from the bottom up of the short husks, the beard started at about 25' on the 50' tree. Total cleaning/trimming time 4.5 hrs, 30+90=$120.00 120/4.5= $26.66/hr and the HO did the roof clean up, dropping the fronds down to a large trailer. I'm sure this isn't the best way to charge for my time, but I'm still learning. __________________ Strictly Palms, Inc. Orlando, Florida USA

28th July 2008, 12:10 AM	#10
Victor Lindsay Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 421	Re: Strictly Palms pics Here are my thoughts on pricing. Your climbers will cost about $3000.00 after shipping. The climbers as well as everything else, (ropes, chainsaws, truck, ect) has a life. To make this easy, lets say one year and you need to replace it, (asset recovery). To recover/replace this asset you need to charge $1.45 per hour, so now you're down to 25.21. Add all the other assets that need to be recovered/replaced and well you see were this is going. I've been in bussiness 17 years. I've seen many companys come and go. The biggest reason they fail...they forget they need to replace equipment that wears out. My truck needs replaced in 5 years, my chainsaws every 4, and my ropes every year. Even if I can make my equipment last longer at least I have the money to replace it when needed. Lets not even get into gas prices, insurance, man power, ect. jm2cents

28th July 2008, 12:17 AM	#11
Victor Lindsay Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 421	Re: Strictly Palms pics The going price for coconut palms down here is 65.00 per tree. The wash palm is a big workmans comp tree, people getting poked all the time. Its a hazorduos tree to clean, so it makes sence you need to charge more. Canary island dates can get around $250.00 each because of those needles. jm2c

28th July 2008, 06:14 PM	#12
StrictlyPalms Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida USA Posts: 177	Re: Strictly Palms pics Thanks Vl great advice, Is that $65 per tree any height? And does it include cleaning all the old husks down to bare stem? __________________ Strictly Palms, Inc. Orlando, Florida USA

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