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Streyken · 17th May 2007, 11:19 PM

We always cut them short enough so when they do fail they won't hit a high value target. And yeah, we don't snag cottonwood, willow, etc.

Don't know the history there, but I know Clearance likes his spikes, hates hippies and he liked my snag, so he can't be totally evil.

Ekka · 17th May 2007, 11:31 PM

Clearance is consistent, and predictable.

Which is a good thing.

Also he has a mind of his own, a leader plus does do his research. He tends to stick it to ISA guys especially in line trimming ... I can understand that. He under went intensive training and finds it wrong that some-one can do some two bob sit down test and claim the same rights as him.

I'm the same with ISA cert arb. Having your say, as he does, doesn't worry me too much and although I've had some downs with him we've had some ups too. He doesn't seem to carry baggage and tends to stay on the topic.

He goes hard on the topic where others go hard on the people.

Streyken · 17th May 2007, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ekka

He goes hard on the topic where others go hard on the people.

Very good observation, I've only seen him get into it with a few people, but you're right.

Unfortunately the ISA thing is what you make it. When I wrote the exam I had just finished a number of horticulture and arboriculture courses from the University of Guelph. I received the ISA study guide, read one chapter a night and wrote the exam in Portland exactly 16 days after getting the study guide. I already had Harris' book, which most of the guide is based on in a dumbed down kind of way. The hazard assessor course is much the same, I found it extremely easy, a fair bit of it was essay style, which I liked. It gave me a chance to use my background in municipal contracting to advantage. But many of the guys taking the exam have never climbed or cut a tree in their lives, this is what bothered me.

Ekka · 18th May 2007, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Streyken

But many of the guys taking the exam have never climbed or cut a tree in their lives, this is what bothered me.

Haven't they introduced a cert climber thing?

Yeah, how can you be an arborist and not climb trees.

Sean Freeman · 18th May 2007, 01:31 AM

Well probably if all your work is consultation then it is possible, some climbing for aerial inspection would be expected though I'm thinking. But you can certainly be an Arborist without the climbing-cutting combination, I think anyway.

Ekka · 18th May 2007, 02:21 AM

Hey Boa, ya seen this.

http://www.iaca.org.au/

From this page http://www.iaca.org.au/pages/constitution.htm

Quote:

5.0 CRITERIA FOR MEMBERSHIP

5.1 Membership will be restricted to individuals who are practitioners involved in an Arboricultural Consultancy practice as the majority of their business activity. This allows for the undertaking or supervision of scientific testing or research and associated reporting on trees, and related tree management and tree protection practices, e.g. the installation of tree protection zones on construction sites, or root investigation excavation, and where no situation of a conflict of interest could arise that would bias or unduly influence the provision of their consultancy service.
5.2 Further to 5.1 and 5.3, eligibility for membership is excluded to Arboriculturists involved in the undertaking of tree pruning or removal works, or the management, or ownership of such businesses, due to the obvious potential for ethical conflict between these activities and the consultancy process.

So much for Shigo's "touch trees"

Sean Freeman · 18th May 2007, 02:43 AM

No I hadn't, yet another club I can't join....ah well, might just send them an email asking why physically undertaking Arb work excludes you from consulting, so long as the consult is not on work your company is bidding for can't see how any conflict of interest could be construed? But then I've been told many times I'm thick and just don't understand the subtleties of these things, glad to see the membership list though some familiar names, maybe I'll just ask some of them hat the deal is next time our paths cross (Oh I can hear their expectation already!) and how they judge themselves as not having unreasonable favouritism towards the companies of others that they kno and are friendly towards, how could they avoid the problem of favouring ISA memebers, or heaven forbid companies with CA's over those without.
Hmmmm..something of a tangled web me thinks, and by favour I mean writing into their consultancy bench marks and basic levels of service standard ie qualified Arborist to undertake work in accordance with AS4373...etc (of course by etc I mean nix in Oz cause 4373 is all we've got!)

Rant over

JohN Dee · 18th May 2007, 03:06 AM

Back on topic you lot.

Ekka · 18th May 2007, 03:12 AM

Hmmm

When you dig you seldom find gold.

Sorry John. What were we here about?

Streyken · 3rd August 2007, 06:02 PM

Been busy the last few months and haven't been carrying the camera as much as I'd like, but here are a few of the recent jobs I've done.

Snow damaged cedars - yuck, lots of volume.

Before

After, almost.

Streyken · 3rd August 2007, 06:09 PM

54 inch western hemlock

A bit foggy today.

Get it down and leave it.

Different hem, different day, same location.

Streyken · 3rd August 2007, 06:18 PM

Very dead hemlock in a park. Buildings or wires on all sides. Had to take a very small top.

Ekka · 3rd August 2007, 06:37 PM

Beautiful pictures, like lush green and it's your summer!

Nice parallel thin hinge left on that cut.

I really enjoy looking at those, snow damage just never ever happens here.

Also, is this the ole dunny?

a_lopa · 3rd August 2007, 06:46 PM

canada sure looks nice! thanks for the pics!

Streyken · 3rd August 2007, 07:22 PM

Thanks guys.

I never even knew about this particular area until I was asked to remove the hazard trees from around the cabins and it?s only a 20 minute drive from my regular route! The land is municipally owned and borders on provincial park land. The over 100 cabins are owned by the municipality, but leased long term to the public. Many have been handed down by family members as the cabins were originally built in the 30?s.

The area we?re in is mainly old-growth comprised of amabilis fir, yellow cedar, western hemlock and mountain hemlock. The growing season is short compared to lower down, we were at about 3000 feet today. I was told the snow didn?t leave till well into June.

Yes that?s the dunny, it?s so high because of the snow. This past winter they only had 12 feet; our guide, who?s lived there for over 20 years, says in the past there has been over 20 feet of snow!

Ekka · 3rd August 2007, 07:32 PM

Gawd, you'd be hanging on till the last second before rushing thru 20 feet of snow to take a dump hey!

I suppose you wouldn't be wearing a T-Shirt thongs and shorts either.

Do you freeze/stick to the seat?

17th May 2007, 11:19 PM	#51 (permalink)
Streyken Fly'n Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 206	We always cut them short enough so when they do fail they won't hit a high value target. And yeah, we don't snag cottonwood, willow, etc. Don't know the history there, but I know Clearance likes his spikes, hates hippies and he liked my snag, so he can't be totally evil. __________________ Trimmin' bush and caring for flowers is good 'n' all... but sometimes ya gotta let the big wood fly and pound the garden.

17th May 2007, 11:31 PM	#52 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,663	Clearance is consistent, and predictable. Which is a good thing. Also he has a mind of his own, a leader plus does do his research. He tends to stick it to ISA guys especially in line trimming ... I can understand that. He under went intensive training and finds it wrong that some-one can do some two bob sit down test and claim the same rights as him. I'm the same with ISA cert arb. Having your say, as he does, doesn't worry me too much and although I've had some downs with him we've had some ups too. He doesn't seem to carry baggage and tends to stay on the topic. He goes hard on the topic where others go hard on the people. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

18th May 2007, 01:31 AM	#55 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,521	Well probably if all your work is consultation then it is possible, some climbing for aerial inspection would be expected though I'm thinking. But you can certainly be an Arborist without the climbing-cutting combination, I think anyway. __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

18th May 2007, 02:43 AM	#57 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,521	No I hadn't, yet another club I can't join....ah well, might just send them an email asking why physically undertaking Arb work excludes you from consulting, so long as the consult is not on work your company is bidding for can't see how any conflict of interest could be construed? But then I've been told many times I'm thick and just don't understand the subtleties of these things, glad to see the membership list though some familiar names, maybe I'll just ask some of them hat the deal is next time our paths cross (Oh I can hear their expectation already!) and how they judge themselves as not having unreasonable favouritism towards the companies of others that they kno and are friendly towards, how could they avoid the problem of favouring ISA memebers, or heaven forbid companies with CA's over those without. Hmmmm..something of a tangled web me thinks, and by favour I mean writing into their consultancy bench marks and basic levels of service standard ie qualified Arborist to undertake work in accordance with AS4373...etc (of course by etc I mean nix in Oz cause 4373 is all we've got!) Rant over __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

18th May 2007, 03:06 AM	#58 (permalink)
JohN Dee Astronaut Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 679	Back on topic you lot. __________________ Climber with slow climbing speed, must make up with mighty chainsaw roar. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Red : Green : Blue

18th May 2007, 03:12 AM	#59 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,663	Hmmm When you dig you seldom find gold. Sorry John. What were we here about? __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

3rd August 2007, 06:37 PM	#63 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,663	Beautiful pictures, like lush green and it's your summer! Nice parallel thin hinge left on that cut. I really enjoy looking at those, snow damage just never ever happens here. Also, is this the ole dunny? __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

3rd August 2007, 06:46 PM	#64 (permalink)
a_lopa Astronaut Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drouin Posts: 837	canada sure looks nice! thanks for the pics! __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory Drouin tree lopping, land clearing and stump removals

3rd August 2007, 07:22 PM	#65 (permalink)
Streyken Fly'n Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 206	Thanks guys. I never even knew about this particular area until I was asked to remove the hazard trees from around the cabins and it?s only a 20 minute drive from my regular route! The land is municipally owned and borders on provincial park land. The over 100 cabins are owned by the municipality, but leased long term to the public. Many have been handed down by family members as the cabins were originally built in the 30?s. The area we?re in is mainly old-growth comprised of amabilis fir, yellow cedar, western hemlock and mountain hemlock. The growing season is short compared to lower down, we were at about 3000 feet today. I was told the snow didn?t leave till well into June. Yes that?s the dunny, it?s so high because of the snow. This past winter they only had 12 feet; our guide, who?s lived there for over 20 years, says in the past there has been over 20 feet of snow! __________________ Trimmin' bush and caring for flowers is good 'n' all... but sometimes ya gotta let the big wood fly and pound the garden.

3rd August 2007, 07:32 PM	#66 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,663	Gawd, you'd be hanging on till the last second before rushing thru 20 feet of snow to take a dump hey! I suppose you wouldn't be wearing a T-Shirt thongs and shorts either. Do you freeze/stick to the seat? __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors