Really NORTHERN tree specialists

Houthakker · 3rd August 2007, 09:46 AM

Pictures speaks for itself, or not?

Eric Frei · 3rd August 2007, 02:09 PM

Crikey!

Care to elaborate, looks like a heck of mess, what exactly happened?

TrevMcRev · 4th August 2007, 02:14 AM

Note the neighbours pollarded deciduous trees held up fine.

Eric Frei · 4th August 2007, 02:16 AM

Isn't Boa's workplace called Northern Tree something or other?

Pollards, way to go if done properly to proper species, been proven. And regular work.

None here though.

Houthakker · 6th August 2007, 07:28 PM

What happened, a storm passed by with speeds up to 55m/s. Nearly 70 million m3 of forest came down and ofcourse a lot of privatly owned trees. We perform jobs for insurancecompanies.This place we came to after 4 days, the roads were blocked. The trees were removed, temperature was about -10 Celsius and the fence was fixed again. The fence was fixed a week earlier due to a drunk driver that came through. Something that amazes me every time is the amount of damage caused by trees. Just a few tiles some woodwork and that's it.
About pollarding trees, I do not perform this on trees where it never has been done in the past. Neither do I cut of the head of a child because he/she is getting to big. Pollards where made to serve as trees where the farmer could get food for the wintertime for his animals. Doing this to trees where the owner says, "the tree is getting to big" or something like "so many leaves every autumn to take away", bad luck he has to find somebody else to do that job. What we can do is take the whole tree away, or see if we can replant. But I think this about pollards can be a new thread with many interesting suggestions.

Houthakker · 6th August 2007, 07:44 PM

Here some pictures from a graveyard that we cleaned, som nasty pines to take care of that were hanging over gravestones. Never liked climbing in trees after that they are damaged by a storm. However, guess how many stones where damaged by the storm? Zero! Just some candleholders were broken and a watersprinkler. We filled 6 40m3 containers with branches, 2 40m3 containers with stumps that we pulled up and got about 30m3 of dust(?) after grinding the stumps Sorry, I do not have the privileges to attach any pictures?

Eric Frei · 6th August 2007, 08:14 PM

You do have and you have attached in the past, log out and log in again and see if you can load up.

Sean Freeman · 6th August 2007, 08:59 PM

Good photos

, does this area have a particularly high water table? The root plates of the windthrown trees seemed very very shallow with hardly any visible sinker roots rather like some of the Dutch trees I've seen.

In the 2nd pic you can see how the remaining trees i that stand are now well and truely exposed after the loss of the edge trees. Although they don't have large or full canopies I would still consider them at risk since the height and taper ratio is not good, and they would be classed as not being wind firm in Forestry here.

Not saying they should definately be felled..no

just that they would be trees I would be keeping an eye on especially as their canopy thickens up and they present more of a sail to prevailing winds.

Steve Tipton · 6th August 2007, 09:42 PM

Some of the trees obviously had a good grip, as they snapped off.

JohN Dee · 6th August 2007, 10:37 PM

Nice pictures Houthakker, do you work for a company or run your own?

Ekka, a few times before when I was trying to attach pics I kept getting the error until I logged out and in and that solved it... Maybe bad coding on vBulletin's side?

Houthakker · 7th August 2007, 12:09 AM

About the other trees on the graveyard. By the way I have my own company. I contakted the once in charge of this graveyard before the storm about thinning out there 'forestgraveyard' because decay (brownrot) in several spruces and increase instability. The architect was called for with the beforehand known result, NO. Architects are amongst the worst people to have to work with. Now after the storm made a (free of charge!!) recommendation take down several other trees that are now leaning after the storm or instable. At least put op signs warning the public! Nothing has happened since than.
In the whole rooting is a problem here due to soil and not because of water. But this differs very locally here because of waterpockets.
All 4 trees that you pointed at are still standing and swaying.
They were more concerned of the decay in the poles to the belltower which I pointed out than the trees!
Want more stormtreepics?

Eric Frei · 7th August 2007, 01:38 AM

Awesome shots, that was one mean storm that did that!

Houthakker · 7th August 2007, 02:41 AM

Pic P1096468 Poplar where I left a price for just a month earlier.
Pic P1156483 Freeing two caravans, one was insured, the other one wasn't. The wood from the spruces I took with me and have been sawn into lumber by myself.
Pic P1166485+86 Strange that one of them remained standing, ordinary spruce.
Pic P1169865+66 This what I saw when I came driving on their property.67 is laying over boathouse.69 same tree as 67. 71 is same tree as 65, can you imaging the force on the stem? It is hanging on a garage just 5 meters away from the root, that means that 25 meters is hanging down. Talk about downforce!
Pic P1296551 The signs says Private Road. For some people it took three days to be able to come out from their houses to the 'free' world.
Pic P5207223+24 These pines were interesting to take down. Made a small cut on the downside of the tree, standing at the top of the house. Then made a small cut on the top side. After this I made a V-cut on the house side of the stem. When I started to make the final cut the stem jumped away from the roof and came down without destroying anything. This was on an island, so no cranes could be used, climbing to dangerous, to much tension in the tree.

Houthakker · 7th August 2007, 03:52 AM

Rest of pictures

Houthakker · 25th May 2008, 07:24 AM

A job from last week. Taking away some populus for an insurance company. The cable you see is a powercable. Did not dare to climb it, as good as all roots were off and on the other side of hte rootsystem is an edge that goes about 14 meters deep. The tree was standing on straight rock.

3rd August 2007, 09:46 AM	#1
Houthakker Sappling Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 46	Really NORTHERN tree specialists Pictures speaks for itself, or not? Attached Thumbnails

3rd August 2007, 02:09 PM	#2
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Crikey! Care to elaborate, looks like a heck of mess, what exactly happened? __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

4th August 2007, 02:16 AM	#4
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Isn't Boa's workplace called Northern Tree something or other? Pollards, way to go if done properly to proper species, been proven. And regular work. None here though. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

6th August 2007, 07:44 PM	#6
Houthakker Sappling Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 46	Stormtrees Here some pictures from a graveyard that we cleaned, som nasty pines to take care of that were hanging over gravestones. Never liked climbing in trees after that they are damaged by a storm. However, guess how many stones where damaged by the storm? Zero! Just some candleholders were broken and a watersprinkler. We filled 6 40m3 containers with branches, 2 40m3 containers with stumps that we pulled up and got about 30m3 of dust(?) after grinding the stumps Sorry, I do not have the privileges to attach any pictures? Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Houthakker; 6th August 2007 at 08:26 PM. Reason: pictures failed

6th August 2007, 08:14 PM	#7
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	You do have and you have attached in the past, log out and log in again and see if you can load up. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

4th August 2007, 02:14 AM	#3
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	Note the neighbours pollarded deciduous trees held up fine.

6th August 2007, 07:28 PM	#5
Houthakker Sappling Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 46	What happened, a storm passed by with speeds up to 55m/s. Nearly 70 million m3 of forest came down and ofcourse a lot of privatly owned trees. We perform jobs for insurancecompanies.This place we came to after 4 days, the roads were blocked. The trees were removed, temperature was about -10 Celsius and the fence was fixed again. The fence was fixed a week earlier due to a drunk driver that came through. Something that amazes me every time is the amount of damage caused by trees. Just a few tiles some woodwork and that's it. About pollarding trees, I do not perform this on trees where it never has been done in the past. Neither do I cut of the head of a child because he/she is getting to big. Pollards where made to serve as trees where the farmer could get food for the wintertime for his animals. Doing this to trees where the owner says, "the tree is getting to big" or something like "so many leaves every autumn to take away", bad luck he has to find somebody else to do that job. What we can do is take the whole tree away, or see if we can replant. But I think this about pollards can be a new thread with many interesting suggestions.

6th August 2007, 08:59 PM	#8
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	Good photos , does this area have a particularly high water table? The root plates of the windthrown trees seemed very very shallow with hardly any visible sinker roots rather like some of the Dutch trees I've seen. In the 2nd pic you can see how the remaining trees i that stand are now well and truely exposed after the loss of the edge trees. Although they don't have large or full canopies I would still consider them at risk since the height and taper ratio is not good, and they would be classed as not being wind firm in Forestry here. Not saying they should definately be felled..no just that they would be trees I would be keeping an eye on especially as their canopy thickens up and they present more of a sail to prevailing winds. Attached Thumbnails

6th August 2007, 09:42 PM	#9
Steve Tipton Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 823	Some of the trees obviously had a good grip, as they snapped off.

6th August 2007, 10:37 PM	#10
JohN Dee Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Climbing around the world Posts: 855	Nice pictures Houthakker, do you work for a company or run your own? Ekka, a few times before when I was trying to attach pics I kept getting the error until I logged out and in and that solved it... Maybe bad coding on vBulletin's side? __________________ We are what we repeatedly do... Excellence then, is not an act, but HABIT... Red : Green : Blue

7th August 2007, 12:09 AM	#11
Houthakker Sappling Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 46	About the other trees on the graveyard. By the way I have my own company. I contakted the once in charge of this graveyard before the storm about thinning out there 'forestgraveyard' because decay (brownrot) in several spruces and increase instability. The architect was called for with the beforehand known result, NO. Architects are amongst the worst people to have to work with. Now after the storm made a (free of charge!!) recommendation take down several other trees that are now leaning after the storm or instable. At least put op signs warning the public! Nothing has happened since than. In the whole rooting is a problem here due to soil and not because of water. But this differs very locally here because of waterpockets. All 4 trees that you pointed at are still standing and swaying. They were more concerned of the decay in the poles to the belltower which I pointed out than the trees! Want more stormtreepics?

7th August 2007, 01:38 AM	#12
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Awesome shots, that was one mean storm that did that! __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

7th August 2007, 02:41 AM	#13
Houthakker Sappling Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 46	Stormy weather Pic P1096468 Poplar where I left a price for just a month earlier. Pic P1156483 Freeing two caravans, one was insured, the other one wasn't. The wood from the spruces I took with me and have been sawn into lumber by myself. Pic P1166485+86 Strange that one of them remained standing, ordinary spruce. Pic P1169865+66 This what I saw when I came driving on their property.67 is laying over boathouse.69 same tree as 67. 71 is same tree as 65, can you imaging the force on the stem? It is hanging on a garage just 5 meters away from the root, that means that 25 meters is hanging down. Talk about downforce! Pic P1296551 The signs says Private Road. For some people it took three days to be able to come out from their houses to the 'free' world. Pic P5207223+24 These pines were interesting to take down. Made a small cut on the downside of the tree, standing at the top of the house. Then made a small cut on the top side. After this I made a V-cut on the house side of the stem. When I started to make the final cut the stem jumped away from the roof and came down without destroying anything. This was on an island, so no cranes could be used, climbing to dangerous, to much tension in the tree. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Houthakker; 7th August 2007 at 03:50 AM. Reason: pictures

7th August 2007, 03:52 AM	#14
Houthakker Sappling Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 46	Rest of pictures Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Houthakker; 7th August 2007 at 04:11 AM. Reason: pictures

25th May 2008, 07:24 AM	#15
Houthakker Sappling Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 46	Some pics 200805 A job from last week. Taking away some populus for an insurance company. The cable you see is a powercable. Did not dare to climb it, as good as all roots were off and on the other side of hte rootsystem is an edge that goes about 14 meters deep. The tree was standing on straight rock. Attached Thumbnails

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