Phill Ellison Crane Job

phill ellison · 3rd July 2008, 03:51 PM

just a few photos of row of 13 pines to be removed, hell of a lot easyer with a crane as i could not fell them as 11,000 volt wires near by

Eric Frei · 3rd July 2008, 06:17 PM

I have to ask, what sort of pines were they?

phill ellison · 3rd July 2008, 06:26 PM

Pinus radiata

Eric Frei · 3rd July 2008, 07:04 PM

Maybe only 25 - 30 year old there?

phill ellison · 3rd July 2008, 07:23 PM

yes they are, and and good size for crane to lift whole too, here another photo to show how wide the tree trunks are (that if the photo worked?)

phill ellison · 3rd July 2008, 07:42 PM

photo didnt work as i still learning how, i not much bloody on the computer

Drouin Tree Service · 3rd July 2008, 07:57 PM

Good work Phil!

Eric Frei · 3rd July 2008, 10:25 PM

Well, how much did they weigh whole?

kiwi_tree_steve · 4th July 2008, 10:58 AM

Nice job mate!

newguy18 · 4th July 2008, 11:02 AM

nicely done Phil.

phill ellison · 4th July 2008, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

Well, how much did they weigh whole?

the crane operater told me i can have up to bout 6 ton all up and they all fitted in that weigh altought two or three where done in half. Taken us about 8 hours all up, a good day work

Eric Frei · 4th July 2008, 11:14 PM

Hey Phill,

Sorry about the 100 questions but what did you do with the trees? Lumber? Mill it? Chip it?

Also, tell us a little about how they got hooked up, did you ride the hook, climb etc.

phill ellison · 5th July 2008, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

Hey Phill,

Sorry about the 100 questions but what did you do with the trees? Lumber? Mill it? Chip it?

Also, tell us a little about how they got hooked up, did you ride the hook, climb etc.

NO worrys ekka, we got the crane guy to lower the trees in one area where the boys cut off the branchs ready to be chiped on site then he lift the logs over to another area to be ringed up at the same time ,while that all happening(i be honest) i ride the hook , hooked on , then lower my self down ready for another tree

newguy18 · 5th July 2008, 02:35 AM

Are you guys not supposed to ride the hook?I'm asking because i'e never had the chance to use a crane on a takedown.

phill ellison · 5th July 2008, 02:50 AM

hard to say as i have heard two side of the story that you can or that you souldn't , the crane guys never seem to worry about it and i do strongly trust them too. It also save a lot of energy and time , and to hire them cranes are costly pre hour, I hate to think how worn out i be if i to climb up and down them tree at end of day

treevet · 5th July 2008, 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phill ellison

hard to say as i have heard two side of the story that you can or that you souldn't , the crane guys never seem to worry about it and i do strongly trust them too. It also save a lot of energy and time , and to hire them cranes are costly pre hour, I hate to think how worn out i be if i to climb up and down them tree at end of day

That's the only way to go Phill. I love riding 100' in air on hook. Now we get separate attachment from hook above ball to tie to. No bucket truck can move sideways as fast as a crane. It is like an amusement park ride.

Many of you guys like to use the chain chokers while I have never seen anyone using them here but rather steel thread or canvas chokers. Seems if one link is damaged it might not be easily noticed rendering the entire choker dangerous.
Also it is amazing the size of those trees in 25 to 30 years.

newguy18 · 5th July 2008, 05:32 AM

friggin pine trees grow like weeds around here,we're talking 30' in 15-20 years.

phill ellison · 5th July 2008, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treevet

That's the only way to go Phill. I love riding 100' in air on hook. Now we get separate attachment from hook above ball to tie to. No bucket truck can move sideways as fast as a crane. It is like an amusement park ride.

Many of you guys like to use the chain chokers while I have never seen anyone using them here but rather steel thread or canvas chokers. Seems if one link is damaged it might not be easily noticed rendering the entire choker dangerous.
Also it is amazing the size of those trees in 25 to 30 years.

Pineus radiata are well known in new zealand as they seem to like the climate here, it is what we mostly have here for logging, they normally fell them when they are bout 25 years of ages. As you can see , you can get plenty of timber out of logs

treevet · 5th July 2008, 06:05 AM

It is a crop. I get it then Phill, the growth is a good thing in most cases until someone sends one up next to a residence.

We got our poplars, etc.

Eric Frei · 5th July 2008, 09:15 AM

You are allowed to ride the crane in NZ but do it right and tie in right.

Trouble with this place is too many Chiefs and not enough Indians .... churn out 1000's of non productive shiny asses from uni a year to make rules for those who work, then because it becomes a rule it's an even bigger mountain to move.

Imagine having to climb to the crane tie in point for those pines?

Imagine then, would you spike it on the way up or would that damage the wood?

Would you then limb it on the way up or do all those rope change-overs?

Or would you try to set a high line and footlock or prussik up?

Now all of those things are a lot more dangerous and tiring than riding the hook, but over here we're "THE CLEVER COUNTRY" and frankly, gone too far with stupity from those who frankly wouldn't know if their ass was on fire.

phill ellison · 5th July 2008, 12:22 PM

I'm with you all the way there ekka

treevet · 6th July 2008, 12:26 AM

Me too, white skinned non callused handed office dwellers making our rules. My crane guy told me it was illegal here now too. I could give a shit. There is some pleasure in breaking unjust laws.

newguy18 · 6th July 2008, 02:28 AM

I feel the same way about the speed limit.

phill ellison · 6th July 2008, 11:27 AM

Here are some more photos of another crane job, this one was a very large pine that was out of reach, no droping zone under neath , so we use the neighbors property to get the 55 ton crane in to section the tree down. It taken bout 6 to 7 hours to do. The mulch and timber had to be taken away so we got a frend who got a big truck with a hi-ab to take all the timber for free so that make life easy for us

shaggs · 6th July 2008, 03:57 PM

Nice Pics Phil!

Eric Frei · 7th July 2008, 12:36 AM

Nice job mate, nice cuts, nice dang crane too!

3rd July 2008, 03:51 PM	#1
phill ellison Mature tree Join Date: May 2008 Location: new zealand Posts: 450	Phill Ellison Crane Job just a few photos of row of 13 pines to be removed, hell of a lot easyer with a crane as i could not fell them as 11,000 volt wires near by Attached Thumbnails

3rd July 2008, 06:17 PM	#2
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Phill Ellison Crane Job I have to ask, what sort of pines were they? __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

3rd July 2008, 06:26 PM	#3
phill ellison Mature tree Join Date: May 2008 Location: new zealand Posts: 450	Re: Phill Ellison Crane Job Pinus radiata

3rd July 2008, 07:04 PM	#4
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Phill Ellison Crane Job Maybe only 25 - 30 year old there? __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

3rd July 2008, 07:23 PM	#5
phill ellison Mature tree Join Date: May 2008 Location: new zealand Posts: 450	Re: Phill Ellison Crane Job yes they are, and and good size for crane to lift whole too, here another photo to show how wide the tree trunks are (that if the photo worked?)

3rd July 2008, 07:42 PM	#6
phill ellison Mature tree Join Date: May 2008 Location: new zealand Posts: 450	Re: Phill Ellison Crane Job photo didnt work as i still learning how, i not much bloody on the computer Attached Thumbnails

3rd July 2008, 07:57 PM	#7
Drouin Tree Service Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,697	Re: Phill Ellison Crane Job Good work Phil! __________________ Drouin Tree Services \| Excavator Hire - Drouin and SE Gippsland \| Landclearing Melbourne

3rd July 2008, 10:25 PM	#8
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Phill Ellison Crane Job Well, how much did they weigh whole? __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

4th July 2008, 10:58 AM	#9
kiwi_tree_steve Mature tree Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: BC. Canada Posts: 325	Re: Phill Ellison Crane Job Nice job mate! __________________ "You have to feel and touch a tree" Shigo

4th July 2008, 11:02 AM	#10
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Phill Ellison Crane Job nicely done Phil. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

4th July 2008, 11:14 PM	#12
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Phill Ellison Crane Job Hey Phill, Sorry about the 100 questions but what did you do with the trees? Lumber? Mill it? Chip it? Also, tell us a little about how they got hooked up, did you ride the hook, climb etc. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

5th July 2008, 02:35 AM	#14
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Phill Ellison Crane Job Are you guys not supposed to ride the hook?I'm asking because i'e never had the chance to use a crane on a takedown. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

5th July 2008, 02:50 AM	#15
phill ellison Mature tree Join Date: May 2008 Location: new zealand Posts: 450	Re: Phill Ellison Crane Job hard to say as i have heard two side of the story that you can or that you souldn't , the crane guys never seem to worry about it and i do strongly trust them too. It also save a lot of energy and time , and to hire them cranes are costly pre hour, I hate to think how worn out i be if i to climb up and down them tree at end of day

5th July 2008, 05:32 AM	#17
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Phill Ellison Crane Job friggin pine trees grow like weeds around here,we're talking 30' in 15-20 years. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

5th July 2008, 06:05 AM	#19
treevet Backflipper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Posts: 2,131	Re: Phill Ellison Crane Job It is a crop. I get it then Phill, the growth is a good thing in most cases until someone sends one up next to a residence. We got our poplars, etc.

5th July 2008, 09:15 AM	#20
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Phill Ellison Crane Job You are allowed to ride the crane in NZ but do it right and tie in right. Trouble with this place is too many Chiefs and not enough Indians .... churn out 1000's of non productive shiny asses from uni a year to make rules for those who work, then because it becomes a rule it's an even bigger mountain to move. Imagine having to climb to the crane tie in point for those pines? Imagine then, would you spike it on the way up or would that damage the wood? Would you then limb it on the way up or do all those rope change-overs? Or would you try to set a high line and footlock or prussik up? Now all of those things are a lot more dangerous and tiring than riding the hook, but over here we're "THE CLEVER COUNTRY" and frankly, gone too far with stupity from those who frankly wouldn't know if their ass was on fire. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

5th July 2008, 12:22 PM	#21
phill ellison Mature tree Join Date: May 2008 Location: new zealand Posts: 450	Re: Phill Ellison Crane Job I'm with you all the way there ekka

6th July 2008, 12:26 AM	#22
treevet Backflipper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Posts: 2,131	Re: Phill Ellison Crane Job Me too, white skinned non callused handed office dwellers making our rules. My crane guy told me it was illegal here now too. I could give a shit. There is some pleasure in breaking unjust laws.

6th July 2008, 02:28 AM	#23
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Phill Ellison Crane Job I feel the same way about the speed limit. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

6th July 2008, 11:27 AM	#24
phill ellison Mature tree Join Date: May 2008 Location: new zealand Posts: 450	Re: Phill Ellison Crane Job Here are some more photos of another crane job, this one was a very large pine that was out of reach, no droping zone under neath , so we use the neighbors property to get the 55 ton crane in to section the tree down. It taken bout 6 to 7 hours to do. The mulch and timber had to be taken away so we got a frend who got a big truck with a hi-ab to take all the timber for free so that make life easy for us Attached Thumbnails

6th July 2008, 03:57 PM	#25
shaggs Mature tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 422	Re: Phill Ellison Crane Job Nice Pics Phil!

7th July 2008, 12:36 AM	#26
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Phill Ellison Crane Job Nice job mate, nice cuts, nice dang crane too! __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

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