A - One Trees' at work

JohN Dee · 3rd April 2007, 08:03 PM

This was a Liquidambar styraciflua we knocked down today.

This is one of our more higher profiled residual clients. The roots were doing extensive foundation damage; When they were replacing the toilet with the plumping the found 2 inch round roots in there soaking up the water.

Me setting the next rig.

Limb walking to take the branch in two cuts.

Poser

http://www.treeworld.info/attachment...1&d=1175590197

Another limb walk, mind you the branches were about 2 inches in diameter.
Only 6 IMG tags aloud :\

That's my set up at the bottom of the tree hung up for lunch, to the right of the tree that house is on the Heritage list. The small gap between the house and tree was probably about 2-3 metres wide.

Aint' that a beaut' of trim job? Just joking that was one of the last photos of me chunking down the far co-dominent stem.

Behind the camera was my father, he was handling the lowering rope for me and doing a great job while at it (Now i'm going to give him a big head

: )

Enjoy and there's many more to come!

The boys at A - One,
JohN Dee & JayD

Sean Freeman · 3rd April 2007, 08:23 PM

When will those greedy trees ever learn no drinking on the job

just cause that black water tastes soooo goood... Nice rigging job I'm guessing no room to use a crane?

Sean

Ekka · 3rd April 2007, 08:25 PM

I wonder why it had 3 leaders like that?

Also, third pic down I think shows you leaving lots of stubs, possible hang ups, but the last pic seems like they were cleaned up ....

Not picking on you just wondered what was going on coz we all know it sucks when lowering and the piece gets hung up on a stub.

Good job, tight removal, and no sticky pine resin/sap crap. Those liquid ambers are great to cut, the saw slices thru like butter.

But this time of the year I bet rake up was huge!

TrevMcRev · 3rd April 2007, 09:05 PM

Good work JD. Good to see a father & son team working together well like that too.

Did you grind the stump? Those Liq's are mongrel stumps to grind. Double the $$$ of nearly any other stump of the same size i reckon. Like radiata pine.

a_lopa · 3rd April 2007, 09:39 PM

Agreed on grinding them Trev like icebergs!

JohN Dee · 3rd April 2007, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boa07

When will those greedy trees ever learn no drinking on the job just cause that black water tastes soooo goood... Nice rigging job I'm guessing no room to use a crane?

Sean

Lol Sean.
There was plenty of room for a crane, the job complexity didn't warrant the use of a crane and also the money is better in our pocket then the crane company's pocket.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

I wonder why it had 3 leaders like that?

Also, third pic down I think shows you leaving lots of stubs, possible hang ups, but the last pic seems like they were cleaned up .... Not picking on you just wondered what was going on coz we all know it sucks when lowering and the piece gets hung up on a stub.

Good job, tight removal, and no sticky pine resin/sap crap. Those liquid ambers are great to cut, the saw slices thru like butter.

But this time of the year I bet rake up was huge!

Lol Ekka, you caught me out!

I don't have foot plates at the moment and lately my spurs have been making my arch ache so I left stubs to ease my feet on nice purches, but when we took down a big limb it got hung up on one of the stubs and I had to climb back down to loosen it the limb off

.

Where the two closest stems are, they come off a single stem before that. There was enormous pressure inbetween the stems because of the bark ridge in the branch union, the elephant ears were huge even the far one onto the main trunk had alot of pressure with HUGE E.E's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrevMcRev

Good work JD. Good to see a father & son team working together well like that too.

Did you grind the stump? Those Liq's are mongrel stumps to grind. Double the $$$ of nearly any other stump of the same size i reckon. Like radiata pine.

Alot of customers really love the fact that we are a father and son team looking out for one another. I've noticed that our cultured race (<- Lack of a better word) customers love the father and son more then what the Aussies do. Most customers by the end of the day have made us lunch

We're doing 12 MASSIVE GIRTH Cocos Palm cleans tommorrow before heading back to grind the stump.

TrevMcRev · 3rd April 2007, 11:37 PM

[QUOTE=JohN Dee;3135]
Lol Ekka, you caught me out!
I don't have foot plates at the moment and lately my spurs have been making my arch ache so I left stubs to ease my feet on nice purches, but when we took down a big limb it got hung up on one of the stubs and I had to climb back down to loosen it the limb off

.
QUOTE]

Whenever im on a pole on spurs, as well as flipline i set my climbline with VT still attached on a running bowline with a long tail. Allows you to kick out and hang in the harness to give your feet a break, great while getting a refuel etc. Also allows you to descend down say 10 foot sections at a time and retrieve the line and reset rather than climb downwards on spurs. I hate that, most unnatural feeling in a tree for me. Sorry if ya already know what i'm talkin about.

Nothing good can come from leaving stubs

, they always come back to haunt you.

Ekka, i think you had a vid clip of this somewhere else???

Ekka · 4th April 2007, 08:01 AM

I got foot plates on one set of my spurs but be aware, they dont fit ALLOY climbers.

Also, take the foot plate with you when buying boots as the boot must have a chunky enough heel to clear the centre of the plate.

In USA and Europe UK etc they buy boots which have a steel plate in the bottom. You wont feel the spurs pushing up at the arch of your feet, also when standing in tight forks the sides of your feet wont be crushed.

I know a climber here who swears by the Stihl boot and buys them from UK as sizes are bout the same where as USA sizes are different. The freight is the killer but he gets together with some other blokes and they split it.

Juno · 5th April 2007, 06:06 AM

Hey Ekka

I've bought that stihl boots to but I WILL NEVER BUY THEM AGAIN.
If they get wet they don't fit your foot well. At the end of the they
your really happy to that you can put them out.

I got shoes from BATA. They are really good and all safety things included.
Also when you clim whit spurs they clim really good. They stay good en I really like them.
try it if you can get them over there!

greetz Jeroen

l2edneck · 6th April 2007, 04:00 PM

Just drop the top in the truck and make a dump run!!!!!

What are you doin?Its in the middle of a football field!!!!!

Joking bud,Greatttttttt Pics keep em comin....just be safe

JohN Dee · 22nd April 2007, 10:40 PM

This was a job we did last year around september-october.

We originally got a call from a customer wanting us to remove her paperbark tree for her to build her pool, she then told us, that her neighbour accross the road wanted a quote from us to take out her tree, while taking out the neighbours tree the owner of these 3 dead trees from down the road approached us.

We used a Trailer mounted EWP 12 metres in height to remove all 3.

The first tree, I had to climb out onto it to tie the guidance rope as Trailer mounted EWP's can be a HUGE pita.

This was the 2nd tree we took down, my dad was out doing a quote while myself and my groundie took this one down so there were no action shots.

This was the third and last tree over the top of the house. That was my groundie launching the recently cut branch.

Thats the EWP we were using. I think that was the last cut we made from the EWP before we brang it over.

The Image captions say it all ^^

We had the job finished that day so everyone was happy

Ekka · 22nd April 2007, 11:03 PM

Cleaned up in that street!

Good stuff. What do you think of that trailer lift? They're $275 a day here.

JayD · 23rd April 2007, 10:06 AM

Hi All,
With this job above with the EWP,There are two main reasons why we got this job,the first is what brought the customers attention to us was we were working in the street...derr..but the second and I think the main reason was he had a Quote from the the travelling door knockers( The Islanders) once John and myself assessed how dangerous the over hanging tree over the house was we decided to tackle this job with a EWP, and once we explained our reason why,we secured the job,then customer pipes up and tells us how the Islander described how he would send his son(a minor) up the dead tree with a saw without a harness and and chunk it down to him,this is what goes on behind the scenes down here,as soon as you say something they duck behind the rascism laws because of their colour,which is utter crap as I have seen very competant islanders out there working and going about it the right way,but when you here of this type of approach going on,and they go out in gangs of twenty to to thirty plus just so they can build their church,it pisses me off,they hurt us all.Some thing needs to be done,as when these part timers get hurt they counted as experienced arb workers which is a insult to any one that has studied hard for thier quals. I feel better now!!

After a lot of phone work, we hire this one for $200 a day and return it the next mourning,As long as you stay within its limitations it OK,but don't leave your HT75 at home!

JohN Dee · 23rd April 2007, 10:32 AM

Yeah it's a great piece of machinery for $200 a day. For most jobs we need an EWP this is the right one for the job, the stabiliser booms are very sturdy and durable aswell as their protective box around the controls. Luckily we have winches and a reverser (dad) to move our stuff around as alot of it is always up hill.

Thats true Dad, I had forgotten about what the customer said about those Islanders.

Ekka · 23rd April 2007, 11:01 AM

Man, that's exactly what goes on here.

They even say to the customer, "we're Christians, we dont cheat you"

I thought it was a unique problem to here, obviously not.

JohN Dee · 23rd April 2007, 12:00 PM

It's just as bad down here mate. The Victorians seem like the lucky ones, maybe too cold for the Islanders?

We pulled up in one street to do a quote right, this islander was there with his truck knocking on the door accross the road from our quote (it was obvious he had the wrong house number). So we drove past he spotted us and who we were, so we did a few laps around the block until he left. After the 4th lap he had moved his truck further down the road and was outta' his truck trying to hide behind a skinny tree in his Hi Vis! LMAO. He was waiting for us to do our quote so he could try steal it once we left. We were smarter then that, on the 5th lap and he was still their, so we drove to the other side of the suberb and did a flier drop for about 10 minutes, came back he wasn't anywhere in sight.

So in the end we quoted the job and we got it

it was two baby cocos palms. Plus we dropped a flier into the house he knocked on

Ekka · 23rd April 2007, 12:19 PM

Here's my flyer, notice the warning on the back.

a_lopa · 23rd April 2007, 12:42 PM

Islanders door knocking just wouldnt work i think down here,maybe in some suburbs/areas ceretainly not where in from.The cops would be called alot if they were door to dooring it.

JohN Dee · 23rd April 2007, 12:49 PM

Thats a great flier mate, I specifically like that warning on the back aswell. I'll probably write my own clause up for the back of mine.

Jeez lopa, you have it so sweet down there.

a_lopa · 23rd April 2007, 05:09 PM

There still about! just in other lifeforms.

TrevMcRev · 23rd April 2007, 07:31 PM

Good flyer ekka

a_lopa · 23rd April 2007, 10:35 PM

I dont mind these genie lifts when i have to hire a tow unit.Tele top boom better side reach.

a_lopa · 23rd April 2007, 10:38 PM

[QUOTE=Ekka;3874]Man, that's exactly what goes on here.

They even say to the customer, "we're Christians, we dont cheat you"

HAHA!!! A freind of mine has the "christian fish" and has "arborist advice"advertised.You can guess the rest,thank god he's not "practising"his faith in my local area!!!!

Ekka · 24th April 2007, 08:11 AM

What's with that fish symbol, like they dont believe in evolution so why the fish?

Is that your Tabby cat?

Sean Freeman · 24th April 2007, 03:05 PM

This doesn't really answer your question just gives a number of possible explainations http://www.eureka4you.com/fish/fishsymbol.htm

3rd April 2007, 08:25 PM	#3
Ekka Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,094	I wonder why it had 3 leaders like that? Also, third pic down I think shows you leaving lots of stubs, possible hang ups, but the last pic seems like they were cleaned up .... Not picking on you just wondered what was going on coz we all know it sucks when lowering and the piece gets hung up on a stub. Good job, tight removal, and no sticky pine resin/sap crap. Those liquid ambers are great to cut, the saw slices thru like butter. But this time of the year I bet rake up was huge! __________________ Arborist Training in Australia\| Your Free Helping Guide Free Tree and Green Industry Deep Link Directory ... Yes, I also SEO (Optimize) and build websites that fly high in Google Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane - Gold Coast Tree Care, Consulting, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Consumers, insist on a Tree World member, they're visible and accessible. Look for this badge Members, click here for details on how you can acquire one for your website.

3rd April 2007, 09:05 PM	#4
TrevMcRev Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,255	Good work JD. Good to see a father & son team working together well like that too. Did you grind the stump? Those Liq's are mongrel stumps to grind. Double the $$$ of nearly any other stump of the same size i reckon. Like radiata pine. __________________ Total Tree Care - Melbourne Arborist Reports & Consulting,Tree Pruning & Removal www.treegear.com.au - Australia's Best Value Arborist Supplies

3rd April 2007, 09:39 PM	#5
a_lopa Sponsor Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,169	Agreed on grinding them Trev like icebergs! __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory www.drouintreeservices.com.au

3rd April 2007, 11:37 PM	#7
TrevMcRev Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,255	[QUOTE=JohN Dee;3135] Lol Ekka, you caught me out! I don't have foot plates at the moment and lately my spurs have been making my arch ache so I left stubs to ease my feet on nice purches, but when we took down a big limb it got hung up on one of the stubs and I had to climb back down to loosen it the limb off . QUOTE] Whenever im on a pole on spurs, as well as flipline i set my climbline with VT still attached on a running bowline with a long tail. Allows you to kick out and hang in the harness to give your feet a break, great while getting a refuel etc. Also allows you to descend down say 10 foot sections at a time and retrieve the line and reset rather than climb downwards on spurs. I hate that, most unnatural feeling in a tree for me. Sorry if ya already know what i'm talkin about. Nothing good can come from leaving stubs , they always come back to haunt you. Ekka, i think you had a vid clip of this somewhere else??? __________________ Total Tree Care - Melbourne Arborist Reports & Consulting,Tree Pruning & Removal www.treegear.com.au - Australia's Best Value Arborist Supplies

4th April 2007, 08:01 AM	#8
Ekka Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,094	I got foot plates on one set of my spurs but be aware, they dont fit ALLOY climbers. Also, take the foot plate with you when buying boots as the boot must have a chunky enough heel to clear the centre of the plate. In USA and Europe UK etc they buy boots which have a steel plate in the bottom. You wont feel the spurs pushing up at the arch of your feet, also when standing in tight forks the sides of your feet wont be crushed. I know a climber here who swears by the Stihl boot and buys them from UK as sizes are bout the same where as USA sizes are different. The freight is the killer but he gets together with some other blokes and they split it. __________________ Arborist Training in Australia\| Your Free Helping Guide Free Tree and Green Industry Deep Link Directory ... Yes, I also SEO (Optimize) and build websites that fly high in Google Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane - Gold Coast Tree Care, Consulting, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Consumers, insist on a Tree World member, they're visible and accessible. Look for this badge Members, click here for details on how you can acquire one for your website.

3rd April 2007, 08:23 PM	#2
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 2,097	When will those greedy trees ever learn no drinking on the job just cause that black water tastes soooo goood... Nice rigging job I'm guessing no room to use a crane? Sean

5th April 2007, 06:06 AM	#9
Juno Sappling Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 33	Hey Ekka I've bought that stihl boots to but I WILL NEVER BUY THEM AGAIN. If they get wet they don't fit your foot well. At the end of the they your really happy to that you can put them out. I got shoes from BATA. They are really good and all safety things included. Also when you clim whit spurs they clim really good. They stay good en I really like them. try it if you can get them over there! greetz Jeroen

6th April 2007, 04:00 PM	#10
l2edneck Palm Tree Rat Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 49	Just drop the top in the truck and make a dump run!!!!! What are you doin?Its in the middle of a football field!!!!! Joking bud,Greatttttttt Pics keep em comin....just be safe

22nd April 2007, 11:03 PM	#12
Ekka Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,094	Cleaned up in that street! Good stuff. What do you think of that trailer lift? They're $275 a day here. __________________ Arborist Training in Australia\| Your Free Helping Guide Free Tree and Green Industry Deep Link Directory ... Yes, I also SEO (Optimize) and build websites that fly high in Google Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane - Gold Coast Tree Care, Consulting, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Consumers, insist on a Tree World member, they're visible and accessible. Look for this badge Members, click here for details on how you can acquire one for your website.

23rd April 2007, 10:06 AM	#13
JayD Moderator - Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,396	Sending your child up a dead & dangerous tree! Hi All, With this job above with the EWP,There are two main reasons why we got this job,the first is what brought the customers attention to us was we were working in the street...derr..but the second and I think the main reason was he had a Quote from the the travelling door knockers( The Islanders) once John and myself assessed how dangerous the over hanging tree over the house was we decided to tackle this job with a EWP, and once we explained our reason why,we secured the job,then customer pipes up and tells us how the Islander described how he would send his son(a minor) up the dead tree with a saw without a harness and and chunk it down to him,this is what goes on behind the scenes down here,as soon as you say something they duck behind the rascism laws because of their colour,which is utter crap as I have seen very competant islanders out there working and going about it the right way,but when you here of this type of approach going on,and they go out in gangs of twenty to to thirty plus just so they can build their church,it pisses me off,they hurt us all.Some thing needs to be done,as when these part timers get hurt they counted as experienced arb workers which is a insult to any one that has studied hard for thier quals. I feel better now!! After a lot of phone work, we hire this one for $200 a day and return it the next mourning,As long as you stay within its limitations it OK,but don't leave your HT75 at home! Last edited by JayD; 23rd April 2007 at 10:18 AM. Reason: further thought

23rd April 2007, 10:32 AM	#14
JohN Dee Moderator - Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 940	Yeah it's a great piece of machinery for $200 a day. For most jobs we need an EWP this is the right one for the job, the stabiliser booms are very sturdy and durable aswell as their protective box around the controls. Luckily we have winches and a reverser (dad) to move our stuff around as alot of it is always up hill. Thats true Dad, I had forgotten about what the customer said about those Islanders. __________________ Don't tell me the sky is the limit, when there are footprints on the moon. Red : Green : Blue

23rd April 2007, 11:01 AM	#15
Ekka Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,094	Man, that's exactly what goes on here. They even say to the customer, "we're Christians, we dont cheat you" I thought it was a unique problem to here, obviously not. __________________ Arborist Training in Australia\| Your Free Helping Guide Free Tree and Green Industry Deep Link Directory ... Yes, I also SEO (Optimize) and build websites that fly high in Google Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane - Gold Coast Tree Care, Consulting, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Consumers, insist on a Tree World member, they're visible and accessible. Look for this badge Members, click here for details on how you can acquire one for your website.

23rd April 2007, 12:00 PM	#16
JohN Dee Moderator - Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 940	It's just as bad down here mate. The Victorians seem like the lucky ones, maybe too cold for the Islanders? We pulled up in one street to do a quote right, this islander was there with his truck knocking on the door accross the road from our quote (it was obvious he had the wrong house number). So we drove past he spotted us and who we were, so we did a few laps around the block until he left. After the 4th lap he had moved his truck further down the road and was outta' his truck trying to hide behind a skinny tree in his Hi Vis! LMAO. He was waiting for us to do our quote so he could try steal it once we left. We were smarter then that, on the 5th lap and he was still their, so we drove to the other side of the suberb and did a flier drop for about 10 minutes, came back he wasn't anywhere in sight. So in the end we quoted the job and we got it it was two baby cocos palms. Plus we dropped a flier into the house he knocked on __________________ Don't tell me the sky is the limit, when there are footprints on the moon. Red : Green : Blue

23rd April 2007, 12:42 PM	#18
a_lopa Sponsor Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,169	Islanders door knocking just wouldnt work i think down here,maybe in some suburbs/areas ceretainly not where in from.The cops would be called alot if they were door to dooring it. __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory www.drouintreeservices.com.au

23rd April 2007, 12:49 PM	#19
JohN Dee Moderator - Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 940	Thats a great flier mate, I specifically like that warning on the back aswell. I'll probably write my own clause up for the back of mine. Jeez lopa, you have it so sweet down there. __________________ Don't tell me the sky is the limit, when there are footprints on the moon. Red : Green : Blue

23rd April 2007, 05:09 PM	#20
a_lopa Sponsor Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,169	There still about! just in other lifeforms. __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory www.drouintreeservices.com.au

23rd April 2007, 07:31 PM	#21
TrevMcRev Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,255	Good flyer ekka __________________ Total Tree Care - Melbourne Arborist Reports & Consulting,Tree Pruning & Removal www.treegear.com.au - Australia's Best Value Arborist Supplies

23rd April 2007, 10:38 PM	#23
a_lopa Sponsor Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,169	[QUOTE=Ekka;3874]Man, that's exactly what goes on here. They even say to the customer, "we're Christians, we dont cheat you" HAHA!!! A freind of mine has the "christian fish" and has "arborist advice"advertised.You can guess the rest,thank god he's not "practising"his faith in my local area!!!! __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory www.drouintreeservices.com.au

24th April 2007, 08:11 AM	#24
Ekka Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,094	What's with that fish symbol, like they dont believe in evolution so why the fish? Is that your Tabby cat? __________________ Arborist Training in Australia\| Your Free Helping Guide Free Tree and Green Industry Deep Link Directory ... Yes, I also SEO (Optimize) and build websites that fly high in Google Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane - Gold Coast Tree Care, Consulting, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Consumers, insist on a Tree World member, they're visible and accessible. Look for this badge Members, click here for details on how you can acquire one for your website.

24th April 2007, 03:05 PM	#25
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 2,097	This doesn't really answer your question just gives a number of possible explainations http://www.eureka4you.com/fish/fishsymbol.htm __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

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