l2ednecks collection........

l2edneck · 28th February 2007, 04:51 AM

A album devoted to me...................

More to come.............

Eric Frei · 28th February 2007, 06:12 AM

Is that your place or are you gonna whack that tree on the right? Whats with the garbage bags out the front on the footpath and that hitch with the fuzzy rope?

TREE-SURFER · 28th February 2007, 07:06 AM

That is a pretty nasty looking life-line. Gives my rectum a twitch just thinking about it failing. ( no stopper knot either )

l2edneck · 28th February 2007, 09:26 AM

That rope is brand new maybe used five times.and what the heck do i need a stopper knot for?20 years and yet to have one even slip.As far as the fray i havent tape it up after i cut my lanyard piece off of it.

And no thats not my house just a tree i did last week,never been trimmed before and i gave the other homeowner a price on the other one and he didnt go for it,250USD.Did the one on the right for 175USD because i also did a hedge for him.

Eric Frei · 28th February 2007, 08:44 PM

Oh derrr, I didn't notice the prune job on the lower 2 pics. Hey, what sort of tree is that?

Hey I burn the ends of those ropes instead of tape, get it all nice and bubbling goey then with a leather glove on mold it into a nice dome ... a hot knife would be good but a cigarette lighter doe the trick too.

Stopper knot on the tail of hitch, don't you get any creep?

I use a Blakes and that creeps a little.

TREE-SURFER · 28th February 2007, 11:11 PM

Sorry l2edneck, I was referring to the centre of the hitch where it seems to be burnt, from a fast decent. I go for split tails, cheaper than cutting bits off your Life-Line.

l2edneck · 1st March 2007, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Stopper knot on the tail of hitch, don't you get any creep?

I use a Blakes and that creeps a little.

Nope the climber that taugt me used to keep like 3 inches of tail with a regular taught..2 under 1 over..

I leave a good tail and add an over to my taught,even when the top is slack the bottom stays tight if it slides a little i just grab tail and lock..Im a bad one arm bandit.I use my rope alot for balance...drop on the head didnt exactly help the eardrum if ya get my drift.Im completely comfortable with my set up.But every climber is different in there ways.The standards are kinda like guide lines more or so...

One thing ive learned over the years...Is to usin the handsaw a bit more...Them there chainsaws bite........Teeheee

l2edneck · 1st March 2007, 02:36 PM

Pretty Flower...Mexicalirose is what i been reffering to them for many years.Looks like an orchid tree but i have been told its not from a guy who was in the biz for 30 years and his dad worked the freeze of florida for asplundh in '64.

Hate Myself for havin to cut it down.But was rotted and unsafe and was a homeowner must.Gotta do what keeps the Belly button away from the back Bone!!!!(Was worried would fall on someone or someones property.

This is a good pic with the sun and besure to notice the ladder in the pine behind it.That was next.(easy though just a couple of limbs to get it out of the OAK.
This is the Reclanata i trimmed after i dropped the mexi and trimmed a nasty palmetto.(Wasps were all dead from the recent frost but found some good pancakes)

No Pics of the Pine,I had to cleanup before dark.

Last but not least a Date that i did on a saturday with a minor trim.Maybe 3 rows and pods.No Before pics cuzz i was fightin rain and already runnin late,but to those of you who can see and underr stand you will see the white marks and can sorta tell.Bout 28 ft to the bottom of the head.Now from trimmin many of these,theey are easy to trim from a ladder and few know the trick.But im sure Ekka will know and can post a response with the answer.

More to come(i have over 700 pics just need the time and patience to sort)

Eric Frei · 1st March 2007, 09:01 PM

Great job on that Date palm, looks great, they seem to have shorter fronds there?

Hey, are you saying you had to cut the seeds and flower spikes out of the head too? That sucks! How many needles you cop?

TREE-SURFER · 2nd March 2007, 07:59 AM

That is a great looking Date. Top marks...

Mike Poor · 2nd March 2007, 04:19 PM

That mex. rose looks like Bauhinia forficata (from when i used to work in California) We called them orchids too.

Sean Freeman · 3rd March 2007, 02:04 PM

We've a lot of Bauhinia's here and you're right the flower looks very similar common name orchid tree.

SF

l2edneck · 4th March 2007, 12:47 AM

http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/orchid_tree.htm

Very similar but smaller leaves and does not get pods after it flowers.

l2edneck · 4th March 2007, 01:09 AM

TREE-SURFER · 4th March 2007, 05:05 AM

Great pix l2edneck.. that oak looks really great. How long did it take you to get it looking good?

l2edneck · 4th March 2007, 05:54 AM

Quote:

How long did it take you to get it looking good?

Bout 45 mins to trim(mostly handsaw)then bout 2 hrs to stack on trailer.

The lady couldn't believe it so she tacked another 50 on the check....

TREE-SURFER · 4th March 2007, 06:09 AM

Nice lady. Good when you get a tip like that. Top marx.

Eric Frei · 4th March 2007, 01:57 PM

I snapped these pics so you can verify what you do.

This is a pretty typical head.

Are you saying all the orange berries/flower spikes and the spent husks have to be cut out?

l2edneck · 10th March 2007, 03:53 PM

Is that a before and after?

Quote:

I snapped these pics so you can verify what you do.

I would have pineappled the head.....

Depending on the homeowner likes and of course $...ive done everything from "carrot toppin" them...to just taking some rows off and cleaning the head up like a "pineapple" witch to do is fairly easy.

TRICK:Always start,make a hole and cut bar side to the tree!!!!!
If you must and i do not recommend it you can cut to the right.
but........ you have to cut with the top of the bar.

VERY BAD

pay extra attention to the tip.no kick backs = no Nicks...and all yer fingers

PRO TRICK:
Make one cut per frond..not two(not one above the thorns and one final)always set yer saw to cut just past the thorns.....but not to deep so that it ruins the head.... leave enough "boot" ,(petiole i think) so if needed to shape, your final cookie has no thorns..(very helpful in makin yer groundie like you and easier cleanup.)

I will leave the pods and husks above the last row that i leave..but i prefer to use a handsaw blade on an axe handle and reach in to clean all the pods.The final look is outstandingly clean compared to leaving the orange.

NOTE:i have also seen some that the final product had the orange and it made it look good aswell...but remember that i am goin for the future call back and the orange will die and fade turning brown,and long before next trim look nasty.

One question i would have is that "Would takin all the seeds possible remove some nourishment from the tree it self?"

long winded post sorry.......

Eric Frei · 10th March 2007, 06:00 PM

Boy, a lot of work then cutting the seeds and husks etc.

That was just one on the side of the road, I'd want a few bucks to clean that properly ... maybe $350 or more.

The fruit doesn't photosynthesize, it takes from the plant not gives ... but cutting them off means they'll swiftly respond with another lot which means it could stress the plant by doubling the energy take. (doubt it though)

Have you noticed how quickly palms shoot up new seeds when you clean them regularly? With queen palms it can be 3 months.

l2edneck · 11th March 2007, 03:45 PM

Good thing was only about 100 feet long.....

BEFORE

AFTER

The remaining trees that you see in the second pic were on the other property and all tangled in the power lines..

Was a good job all in all.2 hours, 1 small tarp of debris, $175USD

Work hopefully pickin up.

Eric Frei · 11th March 2007, 06:25 PM

Gawd, I hate those sorts of jobs ... reminds me of the Gold Coast. I bet ya back and arms felt like that pole saw wieghed a 100lb by the time you were done.

See, sun, sand surf and no decent trees to work on. I reckon a hedge trimmer attachment with a swiveling head would be ideal for that sort of work ... Echo make a good one.

Drouin Tree Service · 11th March 2007, 11:42 PM

The stihl hedger goes on the HT75 and works really good.

l2edneck · 12th March 2007, 02:25 AM

I have the ht 75 with the swivel head but it was to thick fo it.All my stuff is interchangeable,weed eater,stick saw head and hedger attachment.

I also have a echo set of hedgers with a swivel head but the head blew apart from years of vibration.

Jeff Darby · 14th March 2007, 04:14 PM

Hi I2edneck,
We done a similier job recently not quite as big as the one you have pictured and we used our 75 aswell but what we done was have two ladders and a plank between them, Made it a hell of a lot easier,..you don't realise how dam heavy the 75 is until you cut back a hedge at height,but like your job it paid OK.
All The Best
JayD

l2edneck · 15th March 2007, 01:24 PM

Im thinkin of gettin some drywall stilts(just gotta watch the pot holes)......also picking up another ladder and doin it that way(with a plank or scaffolding plank...also im workin on aquiring some skinny roll-able scaffolding gonna attempt to retro fit with off-road style tires.(like a dolly set up)

I advertise for that kind of stuff because the debris is usually minor and the pay is well...and i'm good at sculpting like Disney World...

After all the years of climbing the Grandaddy trees i just sub it out,if its more that 1 heavy load or more difficult to deal with i network it.I have several excellent companies in my vendor list and it repays me with them tossin me the smaller stuff...I call it my niche.

TrevMcRev · 15th March 2007, 09:46 PM

Sounds like a good arrangement 12ed, wish i had someone to palm that stuff off to! I just try to price em well enough to make em worthwhile. Might be small & easy but they still take time & time is $$$ when youve got Arborists on the clock and an 18" chipper sitting out front while hedgetrimming!

Eric Frei · 15th March 2007, 10:14 PM

Trev, they got some specialist hedge trimming co. down your way, was featured in the Aussie Arborage a while back. They do those huge hedges, pine type of stuff in the posh house of the Victorians.

When I was on the Gold Coast I used to do a few resorts. Some had those large topiaried ficus and you'd be up and down a ladder all the time to get them round ... people who weren't so good at it would make them egg shaped as they grow more on top.

Trick was holding up something round, like a 20cent piece stuck to a stick and eying in on what had to be cut.

l2edneck · 6th April 2007, 02:28 PM

sorry guys plate got full....

Heres What we call a California Jewel i did today......?(no search yet)

Looks like the same palm ekka posted in a earlier post?
Boots (petiole) grow seperated vs a canary which leaves a more plaid like design when finished?
Also wonderin if "Jewel" need magnesium or are just a little "unhealthier"lookin?

Also removed a good sized Quaker Parrot nest,

no babies

l2edneck · 6th April 2007, 03:31 PM

also timmed the hedge in the background,sheffalara,areka palm and removed a carrot wood.175USD 2 hrs. (load of poke holes)
Does it take long to load my thread?

28th February 2007, 04:51 AM	#1
l2edneck Palm Tree Rat Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 46	l2ednecks collection........ A album devoted to me................... More to come............. Attached Thumbnails

28th February 2007, 06:12 AM	#2
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Is that your place or are you gonna whack that tree on the right? Whats with the garbage bags out the front on the footpath and that hitch with the fuzzy rope? __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

28th February 2007, 07:06 AM	#3
TREE-SURFER Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Isle of Man,UK. Posts: 337	That is a pretty nasty looking life-line. Gives my rectum a twitch just thinking about it failing. ( no stopper knot either ) __________________ The Aerial Arborist Isle of Man Tree Surgeon\| All Aspects of Tree Work What experts say about TOPPING

28th February 2007, 08:44 PM	#5
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Oh derrr, I didn't notice the prune job on the lower 2 pics. Hey, what sort of tree is that? Hey I burn the ends of those ropes instead of tape, get it all nice and bubbling goey then with a leather glove on mold it into a nice dome ... a hot knife would be good but a cigarette lighter doe the trick too. Stopper knot on the tail of hitch, don't you get any creep? I use a Blakes and that creeps a little. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

28th February 2007, 11:11 PM	#6
TREE-SURFER Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Isle of Man,UK. Posts: 337	Sorry l2edneck, I was referring to the centre of the hitch where it seems to be burnt, from a fast decent. I go for split tails, cheaper than cutting bits off your Life-Line. __________________ The Aerial Arborist Isle of Man Tree Surgeon\| All Aspects of Tree Work What experts say about TOPPING

28th February 2007, 09:26 AM	#4
l2edneck Palm Tree Rat Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 46	That rope is brand new maybe used five times.and what the heck do i need a stopper knot for?20 years and yet to have one even slip.As far as the fray i havent tape it up after i cut my lanyard piece off of it. And no thats not my house just a tree i did last week,never been trimmed before and i gave the other homeowner a price on the other one and he didnt go for it,250USD.Did the one on the right for 175USD because i also did a hedge for him.

1st March 2007, 02:36 PM	#8
l2edneck Palm Tree Rat Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 46	More Fom Me....:) Pretty Flower...Mexicalirose is what i been reffering to them for many years.Looks like an orchid tree but i have been told its not from a guy who was in the biz for 30 years and his dad worked the freeze of florida for asplundh in '64. Hate Myself for havin to cut it down.But was rotted and unsafe and was a homeowner must.Gotta do what keeps the Belly button away from the back Bone!!!!(Was worried would fall on someone or someones property. This is a good pic with the sun and besure to notice the ladder in the pine behind it.That was next.(easy though just a couple of limbs to get it out of the OAK. This is the Reclanata i trimmed after i dropped the mexi and trimmed a nasty palmetto.(Wasps were all dead from the recent frost but found some good pancakes) No Pics of the Pine,I had to cleanup before dark. Last but not least a Date that i did on a saturday with a minor trim.Maybe 3 rows and pods.No Before pics cuzz i was fightin rain and already runnin late,but to those of you who can see and underr stand you will see the white marks and can sorta tell.Bout 28 ft to the bottom of the head.Now from trimmin many of these,theey are easy to trim from a ladder and few know the trick.But im sure Ekka will know and can post a response with the answer. More to come(i have over 700 pics just need the time and patience to sort) Attached Thumbnails

1st March 2007, 09:01 PM	#9
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Great job on that Date palm, looks great, they seem to have shorter fronds there? Hey, are you saying you had to cut the seeds and flower spikes out of the head too? That sucks! How many needles you cop? __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

2nd March 2007, 07:59 AM	#10
TREE-SURFER Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Isle of Man,UK. Posts: 337	That is a great looking Date. Top marks... __________________ The Aerial Arborist Isle of Man Tree Surgeon\| All Aspects of Tree Work What experts say about TOPPING

2nd March 2007, 04:19 PM	#11
Mike Poor Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Urbana, IL,usa Posts: 69	That mex. rose looks like Bauhinia forficata (from when i used to work in California) We called them orchids too.

3rd March 2007, 02:04 PM	#12
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	We've a lot of Bauhinia's here and you're right the flower looks very similar common name orchid tree. SF

4th March 2007, 12:47 AM	#13
l2edneck Palm Tree Rat Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 46	http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/orchid_tree.htm Very similar but smaller leaves and does not get pods after it flowers.

4th March 2007, 01:09 AM	#14
l2edneck Palm Tree Rat Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 46	More............ Attached Thumbnails

4th March 2007, 05:05 AM	#15
TREE-SURFER Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Isle of Man,UK. Posts: 337	Great pix l2edneck.. that oak looks really great. How long did it take you to get it looking good? __________________ The Aerial Arborist Isle of Man Tree Surgeon\| All Aspects of Tree Work What experts say about TOPPING

4th March 2007, 06:09 AM	#17
TREE-SURFER Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Isle of Man,UK. Posts: 337	Nice lady. Good when you get a tip like that. Top marx. __________________ The Aerial Arborist Isle of Man Tree Surgeon\| All Aspects of Tree Work What experts say about TOPPING

4th March 2007, 01:57 PM	#18
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	I snapped these pics so you can verify what you do. This is a pretty typical head. Are you saying all the orange berries/flower spikes and the spent husks have to be cut out? Attached Thumbnails __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

10th March 2007, 06:00 PM	#20
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Boy, a lot of work then cutting the seeds and husks etc. That was just one on the side of the road, I'd want a few bucks to clean that properly ... maybe $350 or more. The fruit doesn't photosynthesize, it takes from the plant not gives ... but cutting them off means they'll swiftly respond with another lot which means it could stress the plant by doubling the energy take. (doubt it though) Have you noticed how quickly palms shoot up new seeds when you clean them regularly? With queen palms it can be 3 months. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

11th March 2007, 03:45 PM	#21
l2edneck Palm Tree Rat Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 46	Monster Hedge...... Good thing was only about 100 feet long..... BEFORE AFTER The remaining trees that you see in the second pic were on the other property and all tangled in the power lines.. Was a good job all in all.2 hours, 1 small tarp of debris, $175USD Work hopefully pickin up. Attached Thumbnails

11th March 2007, 06:25 PM	#22
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Gawd, I hate those sorts of jobs ... reminds me of the Gold Coast. I bet ya back and arms felt like that pole saw wieghed a 100lb by the time you were done. See, sun, sand surf and no decent trees to work on. I reckon a hedge trimmer attachment with a swiveling head would be ideal for that sort of work ... Echo make a good one. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

11th March 2007, 11:42 PM	#23
Drouin Tree Service Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,697	The stihl hedger goes on the HT75 and works really good. __________________ Drouin Tree Services \| Excavator Hire - Drouin and SE Gippsland \| Landclearing Melbourne

12th March 2007, 02:25 AM	#24
l2edneck Palm Tree Rat Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 46	I have the ht 75 with the swivel head but it was to thick fo it.All my stuff is interchangeable,weed eater,stick saw head and hedger attachment. I also have a echo set of hedgers with a swivel head but the head blew apart from years of vibration.

14th March 2007, 04:14 PM	#25
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,031	Shaping the Hedge Hi I2edneck, We done a similier job recently not quite as big as the one you have pictured and we used our 75 aswell but what we done was have two ladders and a plank between them, Made it a hell of a lot easier,..you don't realise how dam heavy the 75 is until you cut back a hedge at height,but like your job it paid OK. All The Best JayD __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

15th March 2007, 01:24 PM	#26
l2edneck Palm Tree Rat Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 46	Im thinkin of gettin some drywall stilts(just gotta watch the pot holes)......also picking up another ladder and doin it that way(with a plank or scaffolding plank...also im workin on aquiring some skinny roll-able scaffolding gonna attempt to retro fit with off-road style tires.(like a dolly set up) I advertise for that kind of stuff because the debris is usually minor and the pay is well...and i'm good at sculpting like Disney World... After all the years of climbing the Grandaddy trees i just sub it out,if its more that 1 heavy load or more difficult to deal with i network it.I have several excellent companies in my vendor list and it repays me with them tossin me the smaller stuff...I call it my niche.

15th March 2007, 09:46 PM	#27
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	Sounds like a good arrangement 12ed, wish i had someone to palm that stuff off to! I just try to price em well enough to make em worthwhile. Might be small & easy but they still take time & time is $$$ when youve got Arborists on the clock and an 18" chipper sitting out front while hedgetrimming!

15th March 2007, 10:14 PM	#28
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Trev, they got some specialist hedge trimming co. down your way, was featured in the Aussie Arborage a while back. They do those huge hedges, pine type of stuff in the posh house of the Victorians. When I was on the Gold Coast I used to do a few resorts. Some had those large topiaried ficus and you'd be up and down a ladder all the time to get them round ... people who weren't so good at it would make them egg shaped as they grow more on top. Trick was holding up something round, like a 20cent piece stuck to a stick and eying in on what had to be cut. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

6th April 2007, 02:28 PM	#29
l2edneck Palm Tree Rat Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 46	New Stuff :) sorry guys plate got full.... Heres What we call a California Jewel i did today......?(no search yet) Looks like the same palm ekka posted in a earlier post? Boots (petiole) grow seperated vs a canary which leaves a more plaid like design when finished? Also wonderin if "Jewel" need magnesium or are just a little "unhealthier"lookin? Also removed a good sized Quaker Parrot nest, no babies Attached Thumbnails Last edited by l2edneck; 6th April 2007 at 03:37 PM.

6th April 2007, 03:31 PM	#30
l2edneck Palm Tree Rat Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 46	Nasty REC Pics...... also timmed the hedge in the background,sheffalara,areka palm and removed a carrot wood.175USD 2 hrs. (load of poke holes) Does it take long to load my thread? Attached Thumbnails Last edited by l2edneck; 6th April 2007 at 03:33 PM. Reason: updated info

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