"Isle of Man Tree Surgery Club"

TREE-SURFER · 16th March 2007, 01:19 AM

Took these photo's today after a crew I was watching from my mates house, had finished.

Quite comical to watch but couldn't get too close and make myself known that I was watching. The guy on the saw was clinging on for dear life onto his life line and branches alike when sawing instead of sitting back in the saddle. No flipline either. I was wetting my self. The shrubbery below the trees (about 18 feet) were subject to impact abuse from having branches etc., dropped on them and has been left with scars and were trampled by the groundies. This crew is supposed to be QUALIFIED.
Look at the pix and let me know what you think of the job guys'.

yooper · 16th March 2007, 02:21 AM

I'm figuring that would be the finish product of the infamous Osama Ben Loggen! He sure gets around eh!

Eric Frei · 16th March 2007, 07:01 AM

See, now that is just blatant ignorance and those cowboys should be prosecuted.

I would go and visit the customer and have a very friendly chat.

I'd subtly ask if they were happy about the tree work and got what they requested.

If they got exactly what they wanted (customer asked for topping) I would then ask them if the tree company tried to talk them out of it.

I would then find out who the company was, if they're a member of an arb organisation and dob them in, I would also leave literature with the customer as to the damage done and an offer to assist in either the prosecution or witness to civil damages case. What pruning standards does the area have? Same as UK?

For example, the whole of Australia has AS4373, so no matter where that's the angle of attack for crap like that here.

Damned cowboys!

TREE-SURFER · 16th March 2007, 08:03 AM

This was a job they done on Tuesday this week. Another guy was taking pictures of this job when I seen them working. I wonder what he is going to do with them?
Check em out, they're great........

The fine on summary conviction for mal-practiced work on trees on the Island is 20'000 - 25'000 pounds sterling should the tree be deemed F***ed Up Beyond All Recognition (FUBAR). British Standards 3998 - 1989 does not cover work of the standards shown here. I know who the company is and in the past, the owner now at the ripe old age of 20, threatened my then pregnant (8mths gone)wife with violence... nice boy.
Oh! and I know the customer too, he lives next to my mate.
Any way....more pix of the same crews work.

Eric Frei · 16th March 2007, 09:50 AM

Flamin mate!

Dob that wanker in quick smart.

Jeff Darby · 16th March 2007, 10:17 AM

Hi All,
Firstly any one that threatens a pregnant women has no place in this Industry we work in peoples private space,and this NEEDS TO BE RESPECTED,all competive aggresion stops at the quote,$$ to who gets the job,so for the very fact they threatened your wife they need to be dealt with harshly by the authorities,regarding the quality of the Hack job well the picture speaks for it's self,they say a pictures worth 10.000 words...me I think if you do a job you do it to the letter no short cuts unless they safely acheive the same result, IE:compliance to the minimum apropriate standard after all this is what most of us are trained to complete our work to,to me also it appears that no thought,preplaning went into this for the want of a better word..job..and if I was asociated with it would be ashamed as we promote proper techniques and inform our customers of many options to tackle the job before we take the job on,this generally starts when you are quoteing and getting the feel what the customer wants,eg:TD,corrective prune,vine removal,ETC,etc.The fact you say they are qualified makes the whole picture to this job repugnent...and they need there qual's burnt in front of them,having said all this you come across this scenario in NSW as well in paticular as small coastal town called Forster,there's quite a few butchered trees there.and in places where they must have been council approved..go figure ?? long story short I dont like seeing Tree's butchered.

TREE-SURFER · 16th March 2007, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayD

The fact you say they are qualified makes the whole picture to this job repugnent...and they need there qual's burnt in front of them

This bloke has an advert on the local radio, "The best tree surgeons on the Island. All our staff are fully qualified."
Small Island (32miles long and 13 wide) every 1 knows every 1)) we know who is groundies are and they're not qualied. But the customer generally doesn't ask for the paper work because they are not wise to the facts. Something I am trying to remedy, at cost to me, with a small booklet entitled "living with trees", to be given out for joe public, to read and be wise.

Funny thing is, no-one else has to put an ad on the radio for work and boast they're experience, which by all accounts, is all you need by Health and Safety Executive on the Island to be qualified. Great isn't it.........until something goes wrong.

Eric Frei · 16th March 2007, 07:52 PM

Give the radio station a call and inform them of the false advertising, ask for a copy of the ad, offer to pay for it as you need to give it to the relevant authorities who are pursuing the false advertising claim.

In other words, where-ever this guy goes his cage be rattling, with some luck he might piss off from the island.

Also, approach a journalist from a local paper etc and ask for an article to be done on malpractice pruning, warn the home-owners of the shoddy work.

I have a stack of successful outcomes against shonks, all you have to do is be honest and truthful and play by the rules.

TREE-SURFER · 17th March 2007, 07:41 AM

Ekka, I never thought of that, going to the newspapers, great idea.
I was driving back from that Macro job today and saw these. Nearly caused a pile up when I stopped to take a look. Unfortunately, didn't see the crew that done it. God! this peeves me off.....

Eric Frei · 17th March 2007, 07:49 AM

Pull up and knock on the door.

Talk to the owner and find out who did it, it's a hard juggling act between telling them what you know vs playing ignorant and pretending you want the same done and need to know who the company was to get them.

Also, neighbours might help if the home-owner clams up.

Jeff Darby · 17th March 2007, 10:42 AM

Tree Surfer,
Who ever did this needs to be taken out of the picture,but be carefull! They have already proved that they will be thysicaly dangerous and even told you who they would target..your family..those trees pictured,we would only do this for a TD.becareful..inform the authorities,watch your back.
Good Luck
JayD

TrevMcRev · 17th March 2007, 03:42 PM

Really. Bad. Work.

NOT

This is environmental vanderlism. Whats worrying is that the guys doing it arent just a one man band doing the odd tree. If theyre a big operation doing this day in day out all over your area it wont be long before every 2nd tree looks like this.

When sheisters do a bad lop job here they tend to go a lot lower making just a few bigger cuts. Its kinda funny that to do this this high up in the crown to many more minor branches actually still would take a bit of effort. If they actually knew what a correct cut was it wouldnt be all that much harder to get a bit further out/up and do it right.

TREE-SURFER · 19th March 2007, 04:32 AM

I have found the perfect weapon to help fight against these varmoths.
not only does it self destruct, but you can use it for fire wood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOK6zrhWaOM

I Wish!!!!

Jeff Darby · 19th March 2007, 07:47 AM

Problem is you use a home made wooden cannon and those cheatin buggers would whip a out AK47..LOL.
Just quietly I would have stood back a lot further than then bloke in the clip,and he ducked aswell as if that would have saved him that close.

Mike Poor · 21st March 2007, 01:35 PM

Hey tree surfer, a friend of mine just drops anonymous letters stating all the downfalls of topping/hacking. Also keep those photos and photos of proper pruning so if you ever bid against him you can give the customer the visual effect and explain the advantages of spending a little more! There seems to be a dozen of these self proclaimed "qualified" dorks in every town. Ekka is right that co. should be prosecuted!!!

TREE-SURFER · 21st March 2007, 08:21 PM

Hi Mike,
the only thing is getting somebody/authorities, who is bothered to do something. I am trying to have a meeting with the head arb. at our local forestry board who run things over here. They have the final say in matters. I am also trying to get the local papers involved and do an article about 'Topping' and shonky workmanship. 1 thing I am trying to do is get this half wit to acknowledge his workmanship. Before now, I put his work on my website; blotted out the faces of course and company logo's, but there then followed a knok on the door by the local 'Bobby', for harassment and was told to remove them or face going to court. How ironic is that. He gets away with murdering trees and I get told off by Sir......

Eric Frei · 21st March 2007, 10:25 PM

well, if the guy called the cops then he knows what he's doing is wrong.

He's just giving the customer what they wanted, sure Maam, 20' no problem.

Your lucky to have only one village idiot.

Mike Poor · 24th March 2007, 05:06 PM

Of all the arguments/points I've made to customers against topping, the one that really sinks in is future costs or because the auxin (in the branch tips) is removed the tree (if it doesn't die back) will grow 3 times as fast as normal. Sorry to hear trying to be the good samaritan came back to bite you in the ash Tree surfer!

TREE-SURFER · 24th March 2007, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Poor

Sorry to hear trying to be the good samaritan came back to bite you in the ash Tree surfer!

I heal fast. I'm not beat yet. Just gotta stay on the right side of the law and someone will listen and help make it happen.

TREE-SURFER · 12th April 2007, 05:42 AM

Lo - and behold, the Hatracker has been at it again.... Don't you think they look familiar?
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Eric Frei · 12th April 2007, 04:06 PM

Can you give me a link to this guys website and email, man he needs educating.

Go see those customers, see if they got what they wanted, were told the negatives etc, this guy on a rampage!

Hey, does he spike them too?

TREE-SURFER · 13th April 2007, 08:58 AM

If he knew how to use them, probably. Hell, this guy would probably put his saddle on back to front
Unfortunately, he doesn't have either, but I see what your getting at. If he ever does mind you, I will let you all know/

TREE-SURFER · 16th June 2007, 09:44 PM

Just thought I'd bring this to all your attentions:

On reading the local Rag, I came across this bit of News. A Local Tree EXPERT (as he likes to call himself (at the age of 20)) had felled two trees, without a licence. Now, forgive me for being so perfect in every way (

) but, wouldn't an expert know and check to see if a licence was valid for those trees? I make a point of requesting to see the licence and take note of the number and review it with the authorities. I also check to see if any tree I am going to work on, is Registered (TPO'd), as a licence would also be required to prune, limb, etc.

Eric Frei · 16th June 2007, 09:51 PM

Now the first paragraph says 150 and the last 250?

But it seems Gailbraith got off, bugger!

Haha, I like to ring them in too, friggin cowboys.

Good stuff.

TREE-SURFER · 16th June 2007, 10:06 PM

The 'Tree Feller' was fined ?150 and his customer ?250.

Not enough if you ask me........

Eric Frei · 16th June 2007, 11:16 PM

Hey, that's good that both got fined, that's great.

And, good job on the resize, sweet.

Your website, have a scam/beware area and link it to this thread. Mention his business name the lot, no law against that is there? Be damned if some-one gets into trouble for telling the truth.

TREE-SURFER · 16th June 2007, 11:43 PM

Been and done that Mate, ended up with the Law knocking on the door saying it was harassment and remove it from the site.
Like you say, how can it be illegal to tell the truth?

Eric Frei · 16th June 2007, 11:45 PM

But if you have a link to this site it's different and they cant tell me to take it down! Heck, even an anonymous user can post the message and what can they do, prohibit you from linking.

Hey, I found this too.
http://www.iomtoday.co.im/ViewArticl...icleid=1425079

TREE-SURFER · 17th June 2007, 01:43 AM

Seen that 1 a while back in the local rag. 1 Guess who the other gang was.......
But NO Prosecution has been brought forward..

OsAGe85 · 24th September 2007, 06:31 AM

Those people are rediculous! That is 50% neglegence 50% brainless.....Crazy.

16th March 2007, 07:01 AM	#3
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	See, now that is just blatant ignorance and those cowboys should be prosecuted. I would go and visit the customer and have a very friendly chat. I'd subtly ask if they were happy about the tree work and got what they requested. If they got exactly what they wanted (customer asked for topping) I would then ask them if the tree company tried to talk them out of it. I would then find out who the company was, if they're a member of an arb organisation and dob them in, I would also leave literature with the customer as to the damage done and an offer to assist in either the prosecution or witness to civil damages case. What pruning standards does the area have? Same as UK? For example, the whole of Australia has AS4373, so no matter where that's the angle of attack for crap like that here. Damned cowboys! __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

16th March 2007, 08:03 AM	#4
TREE-SURFER Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Isle of Man,UK. Posts: 332	This was a job they done on Tuesday this week. Another guy was taking pictures of this job when I seen them working. I wonder what he is going to do with them? Check em out, they're great........ The fine on summary conviction for mal-practiced work on trees on the Island is 20'000 - 25'000 pounds sterling should the tree be deemed F*ed Up Beyond All Recognition (FUBAR). British Standards 3998 - 1989 does not cover work of the standards shown here. I know who the company is and in the past, the owner now at the ripe old age of 20, threatened my then pregnant (8mths gone)wife with violence... nice boy. Oh! and I know the customer too, he lives next to my mate. Any way....more pix of the same crews work. Attached Thumbnails __________________ The Aerial Arborist** Isle of Man Tree Surgeon\| All Aspects of Tree Work What experts say about TOPPING Last edited by TREE-SURFER; 16th March 2007 at 08:40 AM.

16th March 2007, 09:50 AM	#5
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Flamin mate! Dob that wanker in quick smart. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

16th March 2007, 10:17 AM	#6
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,059	Tree Butchery Hi All, Firstly any one that threatens a pregnant women has no place in this Industry we work in peoples private space,and this NEEDS TO BE RESPECTED,all competive aggresion stops at the quote,$$ to who gets the job,so for the very fact they threatened your wife they need to be dealt with harshly by the authorities,regarding the quality of the Hack job well the picture speaks for it's self,they say a pictures worth 10.000 words...me I think if you do a job you do it to the letter no short cuts unless they safely acheive the same result, IE:compliance to the minimum apropriate standard after all this is what most of us are trained to complete our work to,to me also it appears that no thought,preplaning went into this for the want of a better word..job..and if I was asociated with it would be ashamed as we promote proper techniques and inform our customers of many options to tackle the job before we take the job on,this generally starts when you are quoteing and getting the feel what the customer wants,eg:TD,corrective prune,vine removal,ETC,etc.The fact you say they are qualified makes the whole picture to this job repugnent...and they need there qual's burnt in front of them,having said all this you come across this scenario in NSW as well in paticular as small coastal town called Forster,there's quite a few butchered trees there.and in places where they must have been council approved..go figure ?? long story short I dont like seeing Tree's butchered. __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

16th March 2007, 07:52 PM	#8
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Give the radio station a call and inform them of the false advertising, ask for a copy of the ad, offer to pay for it as you need to give it to the relevant authorities who are pursuing the false advertising claim. In other words, where-ever this guy goes his cage be rattling, with some luck he might piss off from the island. Also, approach a journalist from a local paper etc and ask for an article to be done on malpractice pruning, warn the home-owners of the shoddy work. I have a stack of successful outcomes against shonks, all you have to do is be honest and truthful and play by the rules. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

16th March 2007, 02:21 AM	#2
yooper Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Upper Michigan U.S.A. Posts: 128	I'm figuring that would be the finish product of the infamous Osama Ben Loggen! He sure gets around eh!

17th March 2007, 07:49 AM	#10
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Pull up and knock on the door. Talk to the owner and find out who did it, it's a hard juggling act between telling them what you know vs playing ignorant and pretending you want the same done and need to know who the company was to get them. Also, neighbours might help if the home-owner clams up. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

17th March 2007, 10:42 AM	#11
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,059	Shonky work Tree Surfer, Who ever did this needs to be taken out of the picture,but be carefull! They have already proved that they will be thysicaly dangerous and even told you who they would target..your family..those trees pictured,we would only do this for a TD.becareful..inform the authorities,watch your back. Good Luck JayD __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

17th March 2007, 03:42 PM	#12
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,594	Really. Bad. Work. NOT This is environmental vanderlism. Whats worrying is that the guys doing it arent just a one man band doing the odd tree. If theyre a big operation doing this day in day out all over your area it wont be long before every 2nd tree looks like this. When sheisters do a bad lop job here they tend to go a lot lower making just a few bigger cuts. Its kinda funny that to do this this high up in the crown to many more minor branches actually still would take a bit of effort. If they actually knew what a correct cut was it wouldnt be all that much harder to get a bit further out/up and do it right.

19th March 2007, 07:47 AM	#14
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,059	Fighting Back Problem is you use a home made wooden cannon and those cheatin buggers would whip a out AK47..LOL. Just quietly I would have stood back a lot further than then bloke in the clip,and he ducked aswell as if that would have saved him that close. __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

21st March 2007, 01:35 PM	#15
Mike Poor Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Urbana, IL,usa Posts: 69	Hey tree surfer, a friend of mine just drops anonymous letters stating all the downfalls of topping/hacking. Also keep those photos and photos of proper pruning so if you ever bid against him you can give the customer the visual effect and explain the advantages of spending a little more! There seems to be a dozen of these self proclaimed "qualified" dorks in every town. Ekka is right that co. should be prosecuted!!!

21st March 2007, 08:21 PM	#16
TREE-SURFER Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Isle of Man,UK. Posts: 332	Hi Mike, the only thing is getting somebody/authorities, who is bothered to do something. I am trying to have a meeting with the head arb. at our local forestry board who run things over here. They have the final say in matters. I am also trying to get the local papers involved and do an article about 'Topping' and shonky workmanship. 1 thing I am trying to do is get this half wit to acknowledge his workmanship. Before now, I put his work on my website; blotted out the faces of course and company logo's, but there then followed a knok on the door by the local 'Bobby', for harassment and was told to remove them or face going to court. How ironic is that. He gets away with murdering trees and I get told off by Sir...... __________________ The Aerial Arborist Isle of Man Tree Surgeon\| All Aspects of Tree Work What experts say about TOPPING

21st March 2007, 10:25 PM	#17
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	well, if the guy called the cops then he knows what he's doing is wrong. He's just giving the customer what they wanted, sure Maam, 20' no problem. Your lucky to have only one village idiot. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

24th March 2007, 05:06 PM	#18
Mike Poor Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Urbana, IL,usa Posts: 69	Of all the arguments/points I've made to customers against topping, the one that really sinks in is future costs or because the auxin (in the branch tips) is removed the tree (if it doesn't die back) will grow 3 times as fast as normal. Sorry to hear trying to be the good samaritan came back to bite you in the ash Tree surfer!

12th April 2007, 05:42 AM	#20
TREE-SURFER Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Isle of Man,UK. Posts: 332	Lo - and behold, the Hatracker has been at it again.... Don't you think they look familiar? Image036.jpg Image037.jpg Image038.jpg __________________ The Aerial Arborist Isle of Man Tree Surgeon\| All Aspects of Tree Work What experts say about TOPPING

12th April 2007, 04:06 PM	#21
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Can you give me a link to this guys website and email, man he needs educating. Go see those customers, see if they got what they wanted, were told the negatives etc, this guy on a rampage! Hey, does he spike them too? __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

13th April 2007, 08:58 AM	#22
TREE-SURFER Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Isle of Man,UK. Posts: 332	If he knew how to use them, probably. Hell, this guy would probably put his saddle on back to front Unfortunately, he doesn't have either, but I see what your getting at. If he ever does mind you, I will let you all know/ __________________ The Aerial Arborist Isle of Man Tree Surgeon\| All Aspects of Tree Work What experts say about TOPPING Last edited by TREE-SURFER; 13th April 2007 at 09:36 AM.

16th June 2007, 09:44 PM	#23
TREE-SURFER Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Isle of Man,UK. Posts: 332	The Law hits Back Just thought I'd bring this to all your attentions: On reading the local Rag, I came across this bit of News. A Local Tree EXPERT (as he likes to call himself (at the age of 20)) had felled two trees, without a licence. Now, forgive me for being so perfect in every way ( ) but, wouldn't an expert know and check to see if a licence was valid for those trees? I make a point of requesting to see the licence and take note of the number and review it with the authorities. I also check to see if any tree I am going to work on, is Registered (TPO'd), as a licence would also be required to prune, limb, etc. Attached Thumbnails __________________ The Aerial Arborist Isle of Man Tree Surgeon\| All Aspects of Tree Work What experts say about TOPPING

16th June 2007, 09:51 PM	#24
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Now the first paragraph says 150 and the last 250? But it seems Gailbraith got off, bugger! Haha, I like to ring them in too, friggin cowboys. Good stuff. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

16th June 2007, 10:06 PM	#25
TREE-SURFER Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Isle of Man,UK. Posts: 332	The 'Tree Feller' was fined ?150 and his customer ?250. Not enough if you ask me........ __________________ The Aerial Arborist Isle of Man Tree Surgeon\| All Aspects of Tree Work What experts say about TOPPING

16th June 2007, 11:16 PM	#26
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Hey, that's good that both got fined, that's great. And, good job on the resize, sweet. Your website, have a scam/beware area and link it to this thread. Mention his business name the lot, no law against that is there? Be damned if some-one gets into trouble for telling the truth. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

16th June 2007, 11:43 PM	#27
TREE-SURFER Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Isle of Man,UK. Posts: 332	Been and done that Mate, ended up with the Law knocking on the door saying it was harassment and remove it from the site. Like you say, how can it be illegal to tell the truth? __________________ The Aerial Arborist Isle of Man Tree Surgeon\| All Aspects of Tree Work What experts say about TOPPING

16th June 2007, 11:45 PM	#28
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	But if you have a link to this site it's different and they cant tell me to take it down! Heck, even an anonymous user can post the message and what can they do, prohibit you from linking. Hey, I found this too. http://www.iomtoday.co.im/ViewArticl...icleid=1425079 __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

17th June 2007, 01:43 AM	#29
TREE-SURFER Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Isle of Man,UK. Posts: 332	Seen that 1 a while back in the local rag. 1 Guess who the other gang was....... But NO Prosecution has been brought forward.. __________________ The Aerial Arborist Isle of Man Tree Surgeon\| All Aspects of Tree Work What experts say about TOPPING

24th September 2007, 06:31 AM	#30
OsAGe85 Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Littlerock Arkansas US Posts: 59	Re: "Isle of Man Tree Surgery Club" Those people are rediculous! That is 50% neglegence 50% brainless.....Crazy. __________________ Gotta love the smell 2 stroke and wood chips. Be smart, be safe.

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