Euc grafting or what?

blair duncanson

Firstly, must say that i do not hold as much scientific tree knowledge that several of you hold, so this is just an idea with no solid founds.
With ref to mistletoe.
Perhaps due to wet, smooth bark the deposited mistletoe seeds slid to the underside of the branches, germination of seed occured followed by the attack. Healthy tree responded to intrusion and continued to do so over the following years. Perhaps tree eventually won the battle and killed off the mistletoe in certain areas of the tree, (or mistletoe has a natural lifespan, that it had reached). Hence left with these bizzare growths on the underside of the trees limbs????
Grafts,
If tree was felled, would it be possible to wedge these grafts apart, what i mean is, is it true graft, cambium to cambium or is it healthy callusing due to external damage, ie rubbing branches??
Through experience of cutting through such,'grafts', i have found the callus wood to be much stronger than rest of timber found on the stem.
Be interested to see results if you ever get the chance to disect any of those growths. Seen them on a much smaller scale on a Nothafagus which naturally layered its lower branches, to enable spreading and i suppose some form of anchoring.
Interesting

Treelore

I give up apparently a lengthy version of scientific diatribe is what is needed to make something correct!!! a simple understanding of what may be is no longer acceptable

blair duncanson

Yep, think your right, the facts is what is needed. No harm in bouncin' ideas though, no matter what level.

Sean Freeman

Playford there's nothing wrong with yuo asking for this to be explained in a more understandable way.....Shigo often wrote if you can't explain/define something in less than 25 words you don't really understand it yourself! He would be suitably unimpressed by my attempts!

Burls can be usefully thought of as tree cancers yes, they are meristematic tissues gone nuts. My lack of understanding centers around what is initiating the process in this tree, and my suggesting that perhaps if it is in the genetics of this single tree this helps explain the very fluid like grafting (very much like ficus) that I see in this tree.

I will get to dissect one of the smaller growths (had conversations with GCCC and no objection to me taking one of the smallest higher ones) and will take photos to be posted here. Though it might be another two weeks as next week I'm in NSW.

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crucificio

Hi, I dont know much about your eucs, however I have seen trees that have had their genetics rearranged by scientists so that they twist around or grow fat and then go thin again on their trunks, perhaps this is a natural genetic modification by your eucs (technically this would be like a cancer). also it could be that the man made air poisons have caused the tree to mutate, I have seen this happen near industrial factories. I may be completely wrong,would have to examine tree first hand to help any further, As for your grafting this is a common occurance with many trees when the branches "fuse" together. I have seen different species fused together and the larger tree become a host for the smaller, natural grafting? or something from afar?

Ekka

Dont know if it would go down well in your next tree report.

"tree is stuffed and needs to be removed"

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playfordtree

That's 16 words, the good doctor would be impressed.



Is there any other type of "defect" you've noticed besides burls (not just in this tree but in others) that you would consider to be like a "cancer"?

Again, remember your talking to Homer Simpson, not Homer the greek poet.


( I might start a new thread Sean so i dont derail yours anymore, regards Simon)

and here she is;

Do trees get "Cancer" - Tree World

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