Arb 2, Class 2007 - Mt Wilson

JohN Dee · 28th November 2007, 11:35 PM

Well as you guys know, I'm currently studying towards my lvl 5. Last weekend, Arb 2 (@ Ryde TAFE) camped at Mt Wilson in the Blue Mountains. Where we stayed (private property) was an old volcano where the top had capped over. With some of the best soil in the world.

We did a range of work on these beautiful magnificant trees. Removed a few (Cypresses) dead limbs, dead leaders, 40 metre tree where the rootplate was lifting. Headed, blocked and bucked some of the old dead cedars and redwoods. We also milled up some of the cedar.

Here are the pics.

This is Baraniko.

That's Baraniko climbing up to set the block so he can lower out that dead piece over the garage.

This is Greg. He removed the head/branches from the Cypress that had its root plate lifting.

That's me, going up my dead Cypress.

This is Tom. A big hats off to Tom, he blocked out two 4 metre chunks, where on one of them the pull line actually snapped. This tree is now down to the lvl of where he is in the picture.

Tree Hugger.

This is where I was coming down, my lines are only 30m and the tree was 40m so I had to retie-in.

Some beautiful slabs we milled up.

The Truck n Chipper cleaning up... Guess what kind of chipper it was?

This Friday is my last Friday for lvl 2 Arb. Can't wait til next year for lvl 3.

Therrin · 4th December 2007, 07:32 AM

Hey, thanks for the pics JohN Dee. I'd love to find a course like that around here somewhere! I'm tempted to come find you next year when your course is running

JohN Dee · 4th December 2007, 12:10 PM

Hiya Therrin,

The server dumped my other pictures when I was posting so thats why there is only three up atm. I've emailed Eric and hopefully things should be getting sorted asap.

The course was great. Each and everyone of my teachers were more then willing to help out and extend their knowledge.

I met one of the teachers from the Richmond TAFE that offers the exact same course and you know the warming vibe you get when you know the person knows their stuff? Well this guy didn't have it... In my personal opinion Ryde TAFE (Arboriculture) is a premier training/education presinct in NSW to learn at. Pssst... You know what? I also taught them a little bit too and they were more then happy to listen and take in what I had to say.

If you can't find a course in your local area, why not do some international studies? We were a class of about 20-30 and the majority of us got through and passed because the teachers bent over backwards to help everyone...

JohN Dee · 5th December 2007, 07:41 PM

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Eric Frei · 5th December 2007, 07:48 PM

Yeah nice pics and big day out.

You know, that's real hands on training, the real world.

A lot of our USA friends dont get that sort of training. Over here you do classroom training, theory etc and prac doing tree work in the field.

Some awesome tree work.

So, what did you show them?

JohN Dee · 5th December 2007, 08:08 PM

Oh, you know....

A long tailed running bowline as a secondary that some top blokes taught me

... You know they had their secondary as you would in the head of the tree around the trunk

If you slipped you woulda had to of hoped to snag a stub... for it to catchya... I was amazed that even the well established climbers aswell as the climbers in the companies the boys (students) came from even climbed with that as a secondary (Including up palms)

Showed a few of the boys trunk walking and showed them how to use a figure 8 (rescue) for aerial rescue.

JohN Dee · 5th December 2007, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

You know, that's real hands on training, the real world.

A lot of our USA friends dont get that sort of training. Over here you do classroom training, theory etc and prac doing tree work in the field.

Some awesome tree work.

You know, I noticed during the course that even some of the accomplished climbers didn't make the most of the time. What I mean by that is, rather then tying up a limb to save the under-story shrubs (like hey that coulda been a glass roof) they dumped it on them just to get the tree down quicker. Of course they did it behind the teachers back though...

Anyways i'm not being a neg (Negative Person) about that, but I'm trying to point out that anyone that does this course or a course similar, slow down, take your time and learn the best a proper techniques without taking the shortcuts. You're not getting paid to take this day off and come out in the field and learn, so make the most of it when it ISN'T about speed.

shaggs · 5th December 2007, 08:19 PM

Good stuff John!

Is it a ripper chipper or old bandit??

JohN Dee · 5th December 2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by shaggs

Good stuff John!

Is it a ripper chipper or old bandit??

Yar, she's a Rivett, Big Rippa Chippa!

Hey shaggs, what's your business name and where are you guys situated at?

shaggs · 5th December 2007, 08:31 PM

FTS or Finest Tree Services. We're only small and stay local. Liverpool and Sutherland areas. Now just stay local in Sutherland/StGeorge area now. Mostly private, mostly repeat or word of mouth. Kept us going this way for 18years now. Never aimed to be the biggest. Flyin below the radar you watch alot of companies come and go!!

JohN Dee · 5th December 2007, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaggs

FTS or Finest Tree Services. We're only small and stay local. Liverpool and Sutherland areas. Now just stay local in Sutherland/StGeorge area now. Mostly private, mostly repeat or word of mouth. Kept us going this way for 18years now. Never aimed to be the biggest. Flyin below the radar you watch alot of companies come and go!!

Oh kewl, do you guys give away any of your chip? I've got a few people that are interested but it's just to far to take my chip when I have local dumps that are cheaper in fuel.

We're a small tight unit aswell, me and my father JayD running the ship. I know what you're saying. Although I do plan on hopefully being one of the biggest and best well known tree services eventually.

shaggs · 5th December 2007, 08:51 PM

Yeah mate, I sure we can work something out.

PM me and I'll send you my number.

Husky man · 5th January 2008, 07:59 PM

Hi john that looks so good im currently studing Arborculture at Yallah tafe to be an Arborist Assistant

JohN Dee · 5th January 2008, 08:18 PM

Ah level 2

. How do they run the course down there? First Semester theory Second Semester Practical?

Like I said in my previous posts. If you do do the practical part, make the most of it, don't slum it away as a day that you're not getting paid.

Therrin · 5th January 2008, 08:46 PM

You guys will worry about a *single* day of not getting paid?

I'd kill to be certified right now. That kinda thing actually looks like it'd be fun.

JohN Dee · 5th January 2008, 08:57 PM

I didn't worry, but others did. My quals will make up for the money lost. But I tell you, once it was over I doubled my weekly turn over I had for the last 6 months.

shaggs · 6th January 2008, 08:29 AM

Sounds like good advice John.
Hopefully I'll be enrolling at Padstow Tafe (again) this year.

JohN Dee · 6th January 2008, 11:19 AM

, best of luck to ya there mate. I'm not looking forward to the bloody register lines again this year for Cert III, that's for sure.

Husky man · 6th January 2008, 04:52 PM

Im also doing training with the council for a year in tree work

shaggs · 7th January 2008, 07:48 PM

I reckon if we put our assignments here on the forum we'll walk out of there with a masters!!!!!

JohN Dee · 7th January 2008, 08:17 PM

Ssssh shaggs! Your ruining my secret plan - jokes. A few of Ryde Arb teachers are actively reading and posting on here though, which is great to see.

Eric Frei · 7th January 2008, 08:18 PM

Still have to cut the mustard in the prac side of things.

JohN Dee · 7th January 2008, 08:26 PM

That's where ya videos put us a step ahead matey

.

Nah but seriously, if you wanna kick ass in the 2nd half of lvl 2 you've gotta practice practice practice.

Eric Frei · 7th January 2008, 09:36 PM

Crikey I got some cramp in my calf muscles after 3 weeks of holiday.

Unreal humidity here now after all that rain. No dust stump grinding either.

JayD · 8th January 2008, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

Crikey I got some cramp in my calf muscles after 3 weeks of holiday.

Unreal humidity here now after all that rain. No dust stump grinding either.

We hear ya, Brother, there's going to be some sore Arb's out there after Xmas-n - New Years,.. dustless stump grinding...makes me wonder did you get bogged?

28th November 2007, 11:35 PM	#1
JohN Dee Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 941	Arb 2, Class 2007 - Mt Wilson Well as you guys know, I'm currently studying towards my lvl 5. Last weekend, Arb 2 (@ Ryde TAFE) camped at Mt Wilson in the Blue Mountains. Where we stayed (private property) was an old volcano where the top had capped over. With some of the best soil in the world. We did a range of work on these beautiful magnificant trees. Removed a few (Cypresses) dead limbs, dead leaders, 40 metre tree where the rootplate was lifting. Headed, blocked and bucked some of the old dead cedars and redwoods. We also milled up some of the cedar. Here are the pics. This is Baraniko. That's Baraniko climbing up to set the block so he can lower out that dead piece over the garage. This is Greg. He removed the head/branches from the Cypress that had its root plate lifting. That's me, going up my dead Cypress. This is Tom. A big hats off to Tom, he blocked out two 4 metre chunks, where on one of them the pull line actually snapped. This tree is now down to the lvl of where he is in the picture. Tree Hugger. This is where I was coming down, my lines are only 30m and the tree was 40m so I had to retie-in. Some beautiful slabs we milled up. The Truck n Chipper cleaning up... Guess what kind of chipper it was? This Friday is my last Friday for lvl 2 Arb. Can't wait til next year for lvl 3. Attached Thumbnails __________________ We are what we repeatedly do... Excellence then, is not an act, but HABIT... Red : Green : Blue Last edited by JohN Dee; 5th December 2007 at 07:36 PM. Reason: Fixed up photo's

4th December 2007, 07:32 AM	#2
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,732	Re: Arb 2, Class 2007 - Mt Wilson Hey, thanks for the pics JohN Dee. I'd love to find a course like that around here somewhere! I'm tempted to come find you next year when your course is running

4th December 2007, 12:10 PM	#3
JohN Dee Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 941	Re: Arb 2, Class 2007 - Mt Wilson Hiya Therrin, The server dumped my other pictures when I was posting so thats why there is only three up atm. I've emailed Eric and hopefully things should be getting sorted asap. The course was great. Each and everyone of my teachers were more then willing to help out and extend their knowledge. I met one of the teachers from the Richmond TAFE that offers the exact same course and you know the warming vibe you get when you know the person knows their stuff? Well this guy didn't have it... In my personal opinion Ryde TAFE (Arboriculture) is a premier training/education presinct in NSW to learn at. Pssst... You know what? I also taught them a little bit too and they were more then happy to listen and take in what I had to say. If you can't find a course in your local area, why not do some international studies? We were a class of about 20-30 and the majority of us got through and passed because the teachers bent over backwards to help everyone... __________________ We are what we repeatedly do... Excellence then, is not an act, but HABIT... Red : Green : Blue

5th December 2007, 07:41 PM	#4
JohN Dee Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 941	Re: Arb 2, Class 2007 - Mt Wilson Bump Up My Post Pics are loaded in original post __________________ We are what we repeatedly do... Excellence then, is not an act, but HABIT... Red : Green : Blue

5th December 2007, 07:48 PM	#5
Eric Frei Admin - Australia's most prominant Arborist - prev Ekka Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 10,775	Re: Arb 2, Class 2007 - Mt Wilson Yeah nice pics and big day out. You know, that's real hands on training, the real world. A lot of our USA friends dont get that sort of training. Over here you do classroom training, theory etc and prac doing tree work in the field. Some awesome tree work. So, what did you show them? __________________ Free Online Tree Value Calculator by TreeWorld Free Online TPZ and SRZ AS4970-2009 Calculator by TreeWorld Free Online Tree Surface Area and Tree Volume Calculator by TreeWorld My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist \| Project Arborist

5th December 2007, 08:08 PM	#6
JohN Dee Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 941	Re: Arb 2, Class 2007 - Mt Wilson Oh, you know.... A long tailed running bowline as a secondary that some top blokes taught me ... You know they had their secondary as you would in the head of the tree around the trunk If you slipped you woulda had to of hoped to snag a stub... for it to catchya... I was amazed that even the well established climbers aswell as the climbers in the companies the boys (students) came from even climbed with that as a secondary (Including up palms) Showed a few of the boys trunk walking and showed them how to use a figure 8 (rescue) for aerial rescue. __________________ We are what we repeatedly do... Excellence then, is not an act, but HABIT... Red : Green : Blue

5th December 2007, 08:19 PM	#8
shaggs Mature tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 454	Re: Arb 2, Class 2007 - Mt Wilson Good stuff John! Is it a ripper chipper or old bandit??

5th December 2007, 08:31 PM	#10
shaggs Mature tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 454	Re: Arb 2, Class 2007 - Mt Wilson FTS or Finest Tree Services. We're only small and stay local. Liverpool and Sutherland areas. Now just stay local in Sutherland/StGeorge area now. Mostly private, mostly repeat or word of mouth. Kept us going this way for 18years now. Never aimed to be the biggest. Flyin below the radar you watch alot of companies come and go!!

5th December 2007, 08:51 PM	#12
shaggs Mature tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 454	Re: Arb 2, Class 2007 - Mt Wilson Yeah mate, I sure we can work something out. PM me and I'll send you my number.

5th January 2008, 07:59 PM	#13
Husky man Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bulli N.S.W Posts: 71	Re: Arb 2, Class 2007 - Mt Wilson Hi john that looks so good im currently studing Arborculture at Yallah tafe to be an Arborist Assistant

5th January 2008, 08:18 PM	#14
JohN Dee Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 941	Re: Arb 2, Class 2007 - Mt Wilson Ah level 2 . How do they run the course down there? First Semester theory Second Semester Practical? Like I said in my previous posts. If you do do the practical part, make the most of it, don't slum it away as a day that you're not getting paid. __________________ We are what we repeatedly do... Excellence then, is not an act, but HABIT... Red : Green : Blue

5th January 2008, 08:46 PM	#15
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,732	Re: Arb 2, Class 2007 - Mt Wilson You guys will worry about a single day of not getting paid? I'd kill to be certified right now. That kinda thing actually looks like it'd be fun.

5th January 2008, 08:57 PM	#16
JohN Dee Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 941	Re: Arb 2, Class 2007 - Mt Wilson I didn't worry, but others did. My quals will make up for the money lost. But I tell you, once it was over I doubled my weekly turn over I had for the last 6 months. __________________ We are what we repeatedly do... Excellence then, is not an act, but HABIT... Red : Green : Blue

6th January 2008, 08:29 AM	#17
shaggs Mature tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 454	Re: Arb 2, Class 2007 - Mt Wilson Sounds like good advice John. Hopefully I'll be enrolling at Padstow Tafe (again) this year.

6th January 2008, 11:19 AM	#18
JohN Dee Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 941	Re: Arb 2, Class 2007 - Mt Wilson , best of luck to ya there mate. I'm not looking forward to the bloody register lines again this year for Cert III, that's for sure. __________________ We are what we repeatedly do... Excellence then, is not an act, but HABIT... Red : Green : Blue

6th January 2008, 04:52 PM	#19
Husky man Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bulli N.S.W Posts: 71	Re: Arb 2, Class 2007 - Mt Wilson Im also doing training with the council for a year in tree work

7th January 2008, 07:48 PM	#20
shaggs Mature tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 454	Re: Arb 2, Class 2007 - Mt Wilson I reckon if we put our assignments here on the forum we'll walk out of there with a masters!!!!!

7th January 2008, 08:17 PM	#21
JohN Dee Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 941	Re: Arb 2, Class 2007 - Mt Wilson Ssssh shaggs! Your ruining my secret plan - jokes. A few of Ryde Arb teachers are actively reading and posting on here though, which is great to see. __________________ We are what we repeatedly do... Excellence then, is not an act, but HABIT... Red : Green : Blue

7th January 2008, 08:18 PM	#22
Eric Frei Admin - Australia's most prominant Arborist - prev Ekka Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 10,775	Re: Arb 2, Class 2007 - Mt Wilson Still have to cut the mustard in the prac side of things. __________________ Free Online Tree Value Calculator by TreeWorld Free Online TPZ and SRZ AS4970-2009 Calculator by TreeWorld Free Online Tree Surface Area and Tree Volume Calculator by TreeWorld My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist \| Project Arborist

7th January 2008, 08:26 PM	#23
JohN Dee Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 941	Re: Arb 2, Class 2007 - Mt Wilson That's where ya videos put us a step ahead matey . Nah but seriously, if you wanna kick ass in the 2nd half of lvl 2 you've gotta practice practice practice. __________________ We are what we repeatedly do... Excellence then, is not an act, but HABIT... Red : Green : Blue

7th January 2008, 09:36 PM	#24
Eric Frei Admin - Australia's most prominant Arborist - prev Ekka Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 10,775	Re: Arb 2, Class 2007 - Mt Wilson Crikey I got some cramp in my calf muscles after 3 weeks of holiday. Unreal humidity here now after all that rain. No dust stump grinding either. __________________ Free Online Tree Value Calculator by TreeWorld Free Online TPZ and SRZ AS4970-2009 Calculator by TreeWorld Free Online Tree Surface Area and Tree Volume Calculator by TreeWorld My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist \| Project Arborist

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