Ace Master Lowering and rigging no.2

Ace Master · 6th November 2007, 05:57 PM

Just a little more..

Ekka · 6th November 2007, 10:41 PM

Yeah, nice.

Better sized pics too.

Is that the official GRCS from USA?

Ace Master · 7th November 2007, 12:27 AM

Thats it ! all the way from the USA.

A Very top unit,we use it all the time, the ground crew love it,still learning new ways with it.Redroo got it for us they are bringing them in now.Should i slow down with the pics,still have more to show?

Ekka · 7th November 2007, 12:38 AM

Keep adding but try to add to a single thread not have multiple threads coz it will confuse people over time.

RC1 · 7th November 2007, 02:15 PM

Keep em coming Ace

I'm used to being confused

TrevMcRev · 8th November 2007, 02:28 AM

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Thats it ! all the way from the USA.

A Very top unit,we use it all the time, the ground crew love it,still learning new ways with it.Redroo got it for us they are bringing them in now.

Cool. If you guys have been using it a bit, what have you found you'd change about the design to improve it?

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Should i slow down with the pics,still have more to show?

If ya just keep adding to 1 post, like reply to your own thread with more pics its easier to follow.

But they are cool pics, so keep em coming!

Ace Master · 8th November 2007, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TrevMcRev

Cool. If you guys have been using it a bit, what have you found you'd change about the design to improve it?

If ya just keep adding to 1 post, like reply to your own thread with more pics its easier to follow.

But they are cool pics, so keep em coming!

It doesn't like the big drop loads, which has bent the pig tail lop,needs to be a bit stronger and thicker steel rod pig tail lop.We had to make a steel box to keep it all together(a lot of connecting parts),needs to except more rope sizes (bigger & smaller),but it is still a top unit for raising limbs and pulling trees over, it can be used on different trees instead of being at the base of the drop zone.We have 2 different Units(grcs & Friction Drum) which we select the on the day that we think will work the best.The Friction Drum is very good for big timber drops and rope running,Grcs is best for lifting power, combine the too and it would be a nice unit... 2 for 1.

Ekka · 9th November 2007, 02:13 AM

Sounds like Lewmar and Harken need to come up with a winch for arborists.

The self tailing and two speed idea is great however the bollard shape is the problem ... it is short, curved and bunches/overlaps the rope where as the Hobbs and THS devices have a cylindrical shaped bollard.

Interesting, maybe TM can start a thread and summon the experts for the Tree World version.

shaggs · 9th November 2007, 02:35 AM

Keep the pics coming ace!
What is the max rope size for grcs?? 5/8"? What sort of rope you use in it?

Ace Master · 9th November 2007, 03:20 AM

You can run braided or 3 strand 14m to 18m,I found that the braided ropes run alot smoother with less tangles.I have some pic of the units to see the differents in the Bollards sizes.Inside the whole middle of the Grcs bollard is the 2 speed drive gear and on the Friction Drum the gear ring is at the base of the bollard so you can get that cylindrical shape.

Ace Master · 9th November 2007, 03:25 AM

Check out the GRCS and FRICTION DRUM BOLLARDS Pics

Tree Machine · 9th November 2007, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ekka

Interesting, maybe TM can start a thread and summon the experts for the Tree World version.

You boys are outta my league. I do all lowering from up in the tree, aerial rigging. I never get trees as big as the monster where Ace had to extend the semi strap with a chain.

I love these systems and I met Greg Good at a Tree Care convention, but didn't buy a GRCS. I don't think I would have even a tiny bit of influence with other winch/bollard makers.

This stuff is fascinating.

Ace Master · 9th November 2007, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tree Machine

You boys are outta my league. I do all lowering from up in the tree, aerial rigging. I never get trees as big as the monster where Ace had to extend the semi strap with a chain.

I love these systems and I met Greg Good at a Tree Care convention, but didn't buy a GRCS. I don't think I would have even a tiny bit of influence with other winch/bollard makers.

This stuff is fascinating.

I have spoken to Greg Good and have sent him some pictures of the Grcs in action, he loved the chain extention strap too and said he will send a free 10m strap for us to use, i may admit that we use some of these purpose built tree equipment to their limits

,but you can see why by the size of these trees.It gets the old heart pumping when you are right on the edge,everything has to be spot on and extra cautions taken,the right rope,the right ground crew,the right cuts........etc.Sometimes i do aerial rigging too,but i like the ground crew to do most of the lowering as i can set up the second lowering rope or move to the next limb.Tree Machine we are all in the same league, because we all love doing the same thing each day,a small tree can just be as challenging as a large one.Thanks now,Keep up the good work..........

Ekka · 9th November 2007, 12:07 PM

One thing I did notice using those aluminium drums was the rope ended up a steely colour from the aluminium rubbing off.

Dont know whether that's going to affect things or not.

JayD · 9th November 2007, 12:23 PM

We have a video of these units being used to the point of destruction, It gives you a better hands on type of approach without actually damaging your own set up. I dont know if your seen it? It's where they bomb out a volvo..very good to watch...I would hate to witness this with my own gear!
All The Best
JayD

6th November 2007, 10:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,933	Re: Ace Master Lowering and rigging no.2 Yeah, nice. Better sized pics too. Is that the official GRCS from USA? __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

7th November 2007, 12:27 AM	#3 (permalink)
Ace Master Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia, Vic, Melbourne Posts: 276	Re: Ace Master Lowering and rigging no.2 Thats it ! all the way from the USA. A Very top unit,we use it all the time, the ground crew love it,still learning new ways with it.Redroo got it for us they are bringing them in now.Should i slow down with the pics,still have more to show? __________________ The Mt Dandenong Ranges Tree Specialists

7th November 2007, 12:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,933	Re: Ace Master Lowering and rigging no.2 Keep adding but try to add to a single thread not have multiple threads coz it will confuse people over time. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

7th November 2007, 02:15 PM	#5 (permalink)
RC1 Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Macclesfield England Posts: 154	Re: Ace Master Lowering and rigging no.2 Keep em coming Ace I'm used to being confused

9th November 2007, 02:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,933	Re: Ace Master Lowering and rigging no.2 Sounds like Lewmar and Harken need to come up with a winch for arborists. The self tailing and two speed idea is great however the bollard shape is the problem ... it is short, curved and bunches/overlaps the rope where as the Hobbs and THS devices have a cylindrical shaped bollard. Interesting, maybe TM can start a thread and summon the experts for the Tree World version. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

9th November 2007, 02:35 AM	#9 (permalink)
shaggs Mature tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 462	Re: Ace Master Lowering and rigging no.2 Keep the pics coming ace! What is the max rope size for grcs?? 5/8"? What sort of rope you use in it?

9th November 2007, 03:20 AM	#10 (permalink)
Ace Master Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia, Vic, Melbourne Posts: 276	Re: Ace Master Lowering and rigging no.2 You can run braided or 3 strand 14m to 18m,I found that the braided ropes run alot smoother with less tangles.I have some pic of the units to see the differents in the Bollards sizes.Inside the whole middle of the Grcs bollard is the 2 speed drive gear and on the Friction Drum the gear ring is at the base of the bollard so you can get that cylindrical shape. __________________ The Mt Dandenong Ranges Tree Specialists

9th November 2007, 12:07 PM	#14 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,933	Re: Ace Master Lowering and rigging no.2 One thing I did notice using those aluminium drums was the rope ended up a steely colour from the aluminium rubbing off. Dont know whether that's going to affect things or not. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

9th November 2007, 12:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
JayD Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 941	Re: Ace Master Lowering and rigging no.2 We have a video of these units being used to the point of destruction, It gives you a better hands on type of approach without actually damaging your own set up. I dont know if your seen it? It's where they bomb out a volvo..very good to watch...I would hate to witness this with my own gear! All The Best JayD __________________ Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory

9th November 2007, 01:13 PM	#16 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,933