Triple felling, mad man or magic?

Eric Frei · 28th September 2007, 06:11 PM

Well, haven't made a video for a while but thought I'd share this along with a barrage of BS from the "desk bound" crowd.

I do this a lot when a situation requires it and fits the fell zone. Didn't rope it today as breeze was around 7km/h side ways, used 1/4 cut technique to get simultaneous release. wedged the downwind side for security.

This was a cut and leave, just get them on the deck, customer to re-cut and dump etc.

Around 4mins and 18mb WMV

http://www.palmtreeservices.com.au/v...plefelling.wmv

TrevMcRev · 28th September 2007, 09:47 PM

Good one ekka

Shoulda gone for all 4!

Does the customer feel like he got his moneys worth when it all looks that easy?

Good luck to him dealing with the rest

TreeCo · 29th September 2007, 12:47 AM

Nice video!

soutz · 21st October 2007, 02:28 PM

nice. love it when a plan comes together

treefeller · 27th October 2007, 06:45 AM

Cool vid

clementine · 27th October 2007, 08:35 AM

Loved it Eric.

No madness there!

Recognise the tune too: Mr logger logger!

Question follows from n?o Arborist:

You cut out a small (Quarter) section at the front to give direction of fall and then make a cut in the other side and drive in a wedge/peg.

Is this to facilitate a lean?

What are you doing cutting at the back of the tree after you have driven the wedge/peg in?

Sean Freeman · 27th October 2007, 09:17 AM

Clementine, the split back cut or quarter cut (as Eric calls it) is one of the safest of all tree falling techniques, it was how we were trained for commercial manual harvesting of complex and hazardous trees and is the technique we use all the time (because of the increased control it gives you).

What Eric is doing is only cutting half of the back cut, then driving a wedge into that cut until it is tight, then he moves (around the back) to the other half and completes the backcut up to the thickness of hinge wood he has already decided is required for that particular tree.

Since the wedge is lifting the tree, there comes a point when completing the back cut (on trees with no back lean) when the tree is just tittering on its point of balance...with the tthree palms each with a wedge and completed back cuts the connection throught the interwoven fronds allows Eric to fall all three.....the only serious risk to Eric comes from the lack of desirable escape route due to the fence being so close to the stems.

As with all tree falling techniques this should not be attempted by untrained persons, proper assessment of the suitability and safety of any individual tree to be felled can only be completed by experienced trained persons, with the appropriate equipment and PPE

Eric Frei · 27th October 2007, 06:00 PM

Very good.

That logging video DBS put up has the odd moment when the guy multiple fells trees due to snags. Well worth watching.

http://www.treeworld.info/f9/risk-ta...html#post11367

Also the second video called quartercut on this thread/post shows it close up!

1/4 cut cocos drop

clementine · 28th October 2007, 01:11 AM

Cheers Sean, I see now, thanks for the diagram. Watched the 1/4 cut video too Eric, looks easy enough so I'm off to fell a few meself..just kidding.

I noticed in the triple drop vid that you was pretty light on your feet there when they decided to go.

Eric Frei · 28th October 2007, 07:56 AM

Dont let my size fool ya, it's all muscle.

samuel beazley · 3rd November 2007, 09:29 PM

That was great 10/10

stirmantrees · 10th October 2009, 10:15 AM

ok. so many videos not working eric. I want to watch them again you know. got a couple of years to make up for

Therrin · 10th October 2009, 10:51 AM

Yeah, busted link ekka, I wanna see your video!

Eric Frei · 10th October 2009, 02:23 PM

She's loaded and ready to rock, click the original link post #1

kiwi_tree_steve · 10th October 2009, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Freeman

Clementine, the split back cut or quarter cut (as Eric calls it) is one of the safest of all tree falling techniques, it was how we were trained for commercial manual harvesting of complex and hazardous trees and is the technique we use all the time (because of the increased control it gives you).

What Eric is doing is only cutting half of the back cut, then driving a wedge into that cut until it is tight, then he moves (around the back) to the other half and completes the backcut up to the thickness of hinge wood he has already decided is required for that particular tree.

Since the wedge is lifting the tree, there comes a point when completing the back cut (on trees with no back lean) when the tree is just tittering on its point of balance...with the tthree palms each with a wedge and completed back cuts the connection throught the interwoven fronds allows Eric to fall all three.....the only serious risk to Eric comes from the lack of desirable escape route due to the fence being so close to the stems.

As with all tree falling techniques this should not be attempted by untrained persons, proper assessment of the suitability and safety of any individual tree to be felled can only be completed by experienced trained persons, with the appropriate equipment and PPE

Great post sean........ couldnt put it in words better than that!

stirmantrees · 10th October 2009, 02:45 PM

like i've said before, some people were never meant to cut trees. your definitely not one of those people. excellent work.

plenty of those palms here. shoot to kill.

28th September 2007, 09:47 PM	#2
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,594	Re: Triple felling, mad man or magic? Good one ekka Shoulda gone for all 4! Does the customer feel like he got his moneys worth when it all looks that easy? Good luck to him dealing with the rest

29th September 2007, 12:47 AM	#3
TreeCo Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 307	Re: Triple felling, mad man or magic? Nice video!

21st October 2007, 02:28 PM	#4
soutz Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: new zealand Posts: 80	Re: Triple felling, mad man or magic? nice. love it when a plan comes together

27th October 2007, 06:45 AM	#5
treefeller Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: aaa Posts: 224	Re: Triple felling, mad man or magic? Cool vid

27th October 2007, 08:35 AM	#6
clementine Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Shropshire, UK Posts: 507	Re: Triple felling, mad man or magic? Loved it Eric. No madness there! Recognise the tune too: Mr logger logger! Question follows from n?o Arborist: You cut out a small (Quarter) section at the front to give direction of fall and then make a cut in the other side and drive in a wedge/peg. Is this to facilitate a lean? What are you doing cutting at the back of the tree after you have driven the wedge/peg in? __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons - for you are crunchy and taste of chicken!

28th September 2007, 06:11 PM	#1
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Triple felling, mad man or magic? Well, haven't made a video for a while but thought I'd share this along with a barrage of BS from the "desk bound" crowd. I do this a lot when a situation requires it and fits the fell zone. Didn't rope it today as breeze was around 7km/h side ways, used 1/4 cut technique to get simultaneous release. wedged the downwind side for security. This was a cut and leave, just get them on the deck, customer to re-cut and dump etc. Around 4mins and 18mb WMV http://www.palmtreeservices.com.au/v...plefelling.wmv __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

27th October 2007, 09:17 AM	#7
Sean Freeman Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,981	Re: Triple felling, mad man or magic? Clementine, the split back cut or quarter cut (as Eric calls it) is one of the safest of all tree falling techniques, it was how we were trained for commercial manual harvesting of complex and hazardous trees and is the technique we use all the time (because of the increased control it gives you). What Eric is doing is only cutting half of the back cut, then driving a wedge into that cut until it is tight, then he moves (around the back) to the other half and completes the backcut up to the thickness of hinge wood he has already decided is required for that particular tree. Since the wedge is lifting the tree, there comes a point when completing the back cut (on trees with no back lean) when the tree is just tittering on its point of balance...with the tthree palms each with a wedge and completed back cuts the connection throught the interwoven fronds allows Eric to fall all three.....the only serious risk to Eric comes from the lack of desirable escape route due to the fence being so close to the stems. As with all tree falling techniques this should not be attempted by untrained persons, proper assessment of the suitability and safety of any individual tree to be felled can only be completed by experienced trained persons, with the appropriate equipment and PPE Attached Thumbnails

27th October 2007, 06:00 PM	#8
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Triple felling, mad man or magic? Very good. That logging video DBS put up has the odd moment when the guy multiple fells trees due to snags. Well worth watching. http://www.treeworld.info/f9/risk-ta...html#post11367 Also the second video called quartercut on this thread/post shows it close up! 1/4 cut cocos drop __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

28th October 2007, 01:11 AM	#9
clementine Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Shropshire, UK Posts: 507	Re: Triple felling, mad man or magic? Cheers Sean, I see now, thanks for the diagram. Watched the 1/4 cut video too Eric, looks easy enough so I'm off to fell a few meself..just kidding. I noticed in the triple drop vid that you was pretty light on your feet there when they decided to go. __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons - for you are crunchy and taste of chicken!

28th October 2007, 07:56 AM	#10
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Triple felling, mad man or magic? Dont let my size fool ya, it's all muscle. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

3rd November 2007, 09:29 PM	#11
samuel beazley Sappling Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: bulli Posts: 11	Re: Triple felling, mad man or magic? That was great 10/10

10th October 2009, 10:15 AM	#12
stirmantrees Mature tree Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: oviedo, fl Posts: 469	Re: Triple felling, mad man or magic? ok. so many videos not working eric. I want to watch them again you know. got a couple of years to make up for

10th October 2009, 10:51 AM	#13
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,497	Re: Triple felling, mad man or magic? Yeah, busted link ekka, I wanna see your video!

10th October 2009, 02:23 PM	#14
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Triple felling, mad man or magic? She's loaded and ready to rock, click the original link post #1 __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

10th October 2009, 02:45 PM	#16
stirmantrees Mature tree Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: oviedo, fl Posts: 469	Re: Triple felling, mad man or magic? like i've said before, some people were never meant to cut trees. your definitely not one of those people. excellent work. plenty of those palms here. shoot to kill.

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