Training style vid - felling a side leaner, most viewed video in my collection

Eric Frei · 6th June 2010, 06:54 PM

I took some video of extremely wide open faced notches on cocos palms, where the face would not shut before the piece lay on the ground. I did it to see if the fibres would break. They held strong all the way. Not surprising really if you have ever tried to tear a piece of cocos palm off.

Also in that batch of videos on that post is where I slow motioned a pine with a pie cut all the way down, watching the fatter side of the hinge break first and slowly the breaking progresses closer to the scarf.

Eric Frei · 8th June 2010, 06:30 PM

Update.

I have added this video into the first post but also letting you know here.

It's a model I built to prove this adjusted gun technique accurate.

YouTube - felling side leaning tree adjusted gun technique - model

Jeff Darby · 8th June 2010, 09:20 PM

Great effort Ekka, hopefully the general viewing public will appreciate your efforts.

TrevMcRev · 9th June 2010, 12:13 AM

That really makes it clear. Thanks for taking the time to put that together.

Therrin · 9th June 2010, 03:19 PM

Crikey that's amazing!

I was tempted to create dozens of youtube accounts, and use them to post on your video, and have some of them taunt you.

I DID post though, something about you being a godsend and how awesome you are and are you single, etc etc.

Jeff Darby · 9th June 2010, 08:49 PM

I just found Mr Murphy's lastest video on felling a side leaner, featuring the "stick trick"..

YouTube - Tree Falling using Retainer Line and "Stick Trick"

Since Mr Murphy has already posted in this thread I thought he would not mind me posting his latest work.

Garry Brockley · 10th June 2010, 02:57 PM

Why oh why are you not a training provider? when you have the ability to produce clear concise and informative media like that. that video enabled my 12 year old to understand how it works.

thank you

newguy18 · 10th June 2010, 05:04 PM

I can swing and steer trees,i've done it thousands of times,but i don't cut through the hinge as the trees falling,i use a combination of a dutchman and leaving the hinge thicker on the side i want the tree to swing towards,but also remember,dutchmans arent kosher,and its highly variable and daangerous swinging trees unless you know what your doing,murphy the way you showed that in you video is very dangerous practice.

Victor Lindsay · 12th June 2010, 09:09 AM

Great visual aid!!

pabllo · 14th June 2010, 06:41 PM

Hi Ekka

As you have left a comment on my BLOG in which you have said some words about side-rope tech & Gunning explanational video , I have illustrated about it known as HIKAE-ROPE safty tech in japan.

Different language makes understandings difficult but I thing illstration clears problemd mostly

Please visit my Blog again in which I wrote some words following your videos in my language

Eric Frei · 14th June 2010, 07:31 PM

Thanks .... it's a popular blog you have there, I get some idea with Google translate.

Yes it's important the side rope is anchored at the same height/level as the hinge.

I embedded your picture here to assist.

Eric Frei · 19th June 2010, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glennak

Once the scarf closes the hinge breaks so direction is up to gravity and momentum. So with a 45 deg scarf you have control only half the way down, and with a big back lean and a winch the tree may start to fall then snap the hinge and direction is guess work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

I took some video of extremely wide open faced notches on cocos palms, where the face would not shut before the piece lay on the ground. I did it to see if the fibres would break. They held strong all the way. Not surprising really if you have ever tried to tear a piece of cocos palm off.

I have found and loaded up that video, it's 9.6mb WMV on this link, it was shot in 2006 when I did all of this testing.

www.treeworld.info/video/hingehold.wmv

Rob Chace · 1st May 2011, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pabllo

Hi Ekka

As you have left a comment on my BLOG in which you have said some words about side-rope tech & Gunning explanational video , I have illustrated about it known as HIKAE-ROPE safty tech in japan.

Different language makes understandings difficult but I thing illstration clears problemd mostly

Please visit my Blog again in which I wrote some words following your videos in my language

babel fished it:
Translation result for http://pabllo.cocolog-nifty.com/kobikiya/2010/06/ekka-befb.html

6th June 2010, 06:54 PM	#61
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Training style vid - felling a side leaner, most viewed video in my collection I took some video of extremely wide open faced notches on cocos palms, where the face would not shut before the piece lay on the ground. I did it to see if the fibres would break. They held strong all the way. Not surprising really if you have ever tried to tear a piece of cocos palm off. Also in that batch of videos on that post is where I slow motioned a pine with a pie cut all the way down, watching the fatter side of the hinge break first and slowly the breaking progresses closer to the scarf. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

8th June 2010, 09:20 PM	#63
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,031	Re: Training style vid - felling a side leaner, most viewed video in my collection Great effort Ekka, hopefully the general viewing public will appreciate your efforts. __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

9th June 2010, 12:13 AM	#64
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	Re: Training style vid - felling a side leaner, most viewed video in my collection That really makes it clear. Thanks for taking the time to put that together.

9th June 2010, 03:19 PM	#65
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,512	Re: Training style vid - felling a side leaner, most viewed video in my collection Crikey that's amazing! I was tempted to create dozens of youtube accounts, and use them to post on your video, and have some of them taunt you. I DID post though, something about you being a godsend and how awesome you are and are you single, etc etc.

10th June 2010, 02:57 PM	#67
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,649	Re: Training style vid - felling a side leaner, most viewed video in my collection Why oh why are you not a training provider? when you have the ability to produce clear concise and informative media like that. that video enabled my 12 year old to understand how it works. thank you __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

10th June 2010, 05:04 PM	#68
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Training style vid - felling a side leaner, most viewed video in my collection I can swing and steer trees,i've done it thousands of times,but i don't cut through the hinge as the trees falling,i use a combination of a dutchman and leaving the hinge thicker on the side i want the tree to swing towards,but also remember,dutchmans arent kosher,and its highly variable and daangerous swinging trees unless you know what your doing,murphy the way you showed that in you video is very dangerous practice. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

12th June 2010, 09:09 AM	#69
Victor Lindsay Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 421	Re: Training style vid - felling a side leaner, most viewed video in my collection Great visual aid!!

14th June 2010, 06:41 PM	#70
pabllo Sappling Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Japan Posts: 19	Re: Training style vid - felling a side leaner, most viewed video in my collection Hi Ekka As you have left a comment on my BLOG in which you have said some words about side-rope tech & Gunning explanational video , I have illustrated about it known as HIKAE-ROPE safty tech in japan. Different language makes understandings difficult but I thing illstration clears problemd mostly Please visit my Blog again in which I wrote some words following your videos in my language

14th June 2010, 07:31 PM	#71
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Training style vid - felling a side leaner, most viewed video in my collection Thanks .... it's a popular blog you have there, I get some idea with Google translate. Yes it's important the side rope is anchored at the same height/level as the hinge. I embedded your picture here to assist. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

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