Tongue and Groove scarf - notch

Eric Frei

Around 2.30mins

I just demo the tongue and groove.

Things that could have been better ...

Wrap that bloody thumb again!

And maybe a bit lower on the back cuts

Oh, also, cop a load of the berries flying around when the weed hit the deck.

YouTube - Tongue and Groove Tree Felling Technique

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a_lopa

Bluegum.

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Eric Frei

Your the bloke I flogged the ideas off by using your pictures ... thanks

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a_lopa

No problem!When i get the chance in the right predicament ill video.

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Mick Dundee

Sorta looks like a mohawk on a skinhead.

allmarktree

Nice job! Was that a framing hammer? Its still a tree not a board.

Eric Frei

Bloody shit stick that's what it is ... this joints infested with them. I got a better hammer now but it doesn't pull nails out too good however the Stihl spanner does.

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Graeme McMahon

Ekka

Did my eyes play tricks on me, or did the left hand side of the back cut jump toward the wedge a little.

Graeme

Eric Frei

Hmmm, I just watched it 3 times and concluded this link for you.

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JayD

Ekka,
Nice job droping the palm,right where you wanted it!the only thing that concerned me and no doubt you had it covered was your blindspot with the fence,I mean you probably wouldn't have hit any one but you sure would have scared them to death droping that palm at their feet.berries from a ole to breakfeast time as my Dad would have said.Nice work mate.
All The Best
JayD

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Eric Frei

Yeah, you can't see the sign and hats just around the corner of the fence.

You can see a few extra hats in the back of the ute though.

But I'll tell you a funny story ....

we were felling a palm onto the road one day, quiet little street and driveway opposite.

The palm frond tips would reach to no further than the centre of the road. So I got a spotter out there hanging around but I was wedging the palm over.

Now a young yuppie dude pulls up across the road but parks sort of across the driveway, windows down chatting to this young bird on the driveway. All is very quiet, back cut has been made (he didn't notice it much) and all I had to do was pound the wedge.

Anyway, he's got no idea of what's going on so I start pounding ... the tree slowly creaks and cracks and starts to go and I yell out to him "LOOK OUT!"

He turned and the look on his face, complete and utter fear, within a split second wooosh, he cops the air blast but the tree landed short and he realises. Gets out of the car pissing himself laughing like the rest of us. That look on his face was unbelievable, his bird thought it was great.

Funny how people are totally oblivious to danger or comprehending what's going on around them.

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Sean Freeman

Got a very similar story over a year ago removing badly decayed mango tree from front fence of a kindy playground, fence next to front footpath and road just down from a T junction with traffic lights. The tree Tim took down from an EWP, till the stump was low enough for me to fell safely, quite a big stump with small stubs left from the lowest laterals. Do the scarf, and split back cut, wedges in and begin banging her over, just as she's falling the lights change and traffic begins turning left down the street next to the fence and mango. With perfect timing a small delivery van comes past driver day dreaming or thinking of the afternoons beer to be drunk (half his luck) when out of the corner of his eye he catches sight of the falling stick...I'd sighted it as neatly fitting onto the footpath with about 150mm projecting over into a parking lane which we'd barricaded earlier in the day.

The sight or rather corner of his eye sght of the falling stick scared the bejesus out of him causing the van to veer wildly over to the other side of the road....lucky nothing coming the other way, but I had a long cack about it, the look of horror then fear (wrong side of road) then embaressment, pretty damn funny.

Here's the stick though you can't see the road.



Sean

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Eric Frei

Good one, just as well nothing was coming.

Pretty rotten, any fruiting bodies?

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Sean Freeman

Yes, it was identified as a tree requiring root crown inspection when I did a tree management plan for the School, two very small fruiting bodies of Ganoderma spp, when the root crown inspection was done well here's the photos;

First the second closer inspection of the above grade root crown:


Close up of the fruiting bodies:


After airknife excavation, hand saw easily pushed in to the hilt through one main buttress just below grade:


A good look at the extensive root decay through three main buttress roots all holding (or rather not) against falling into the road under wind loading:


Sean

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Eric Frei

Do you own or rent the compressor for the airknife?

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Sean Freeman

Rent, took us a few attempts before we found the 180cfm size does what we need, though the guys I know in Brissy claim to be able to do the kinds of excavations that our knife won't do even with a much bigger compressor. Our knife is not factory built so that has a lot to do with it I'm sure.

Sean

Eric Frei

Bloody expensive those knives. What do you reckon $2K?

I wonder what it costs to hire a 180cfm compressor a day.

Also, is it messy blowing all that dirt around?

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Sean Freeman

I'm pretty sure works out to be about $250 a day, but we usaully get the job done in 1/2 day so not too bad, and yes around $2000 is pretty much the ball park for a good knife, but the nozzles they have now are much better than the home made rig we have, supersonic etc.. increase the power of your blow..which is what most guys want right?

Sean

Graeme McMahon

Ekka

Had another look, and it appears both sides were touched up.

Graeme

Eric Frei

Touched up?

Dont know what you mean touched up, hey, how about some of your pics over here ... that big removal you did, Angus can post pics?

Bloody shite stirrer, any new videos?

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a_lopa

Do you recognise the guy on the saw here Graeme?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1pH3XQ4hk8

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Graeme McMahon

No sorry, I couldn't see the face.

Graeme

Eric Frei

Hey, that's Wilson from Home Improvement.

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vl2007

I viewed the video...great work Ekka. When would you use this techq? In what environment is it best used? I read through the thread, but when to use it was not addressed.

Eric Frei

You would primarily use that when the tree is too thin to get a wedge behind the bar.

You could also use it when you have a slight side lean.

You could also use it if the bar is a little short to make it in one clean cut through.

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vl2007

Thx Ekka. I'm updating my felling notchs and techq. One day I'll need to train my replacement, and this is good stuff to pass on.

Eric Frei

Can USA people still view this Youtube video?

YouTube - Tongue and Groove Tree Felling Technique

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vl2007

Just watched it again.

Eric Frei

OK, for those who aren't in the know Youtube to save their collective asses from being sued by music makers decided to co-operate and invent filtering programs that identify copyright music tracks (that'd be nearly all).

If a video has background music even then it can be either deleted, have the sound deleted or suspended from viewing totally or by continent.

This video got a warning for the sound track. I have already pulled others as they deleted the sound totally and when you have a video with narration, chainsaw sounds and music you cannot just separate the music on your rendered clip .... you separate all the sound and that sucks.

So, there's a bit of an exodus away from Youtube due to this and going elsewhere, also now the prices on royalty free music on the net have skyrocketed. About the only way to put a soundtrack on is little pieces here and there like TV does and claim "fair use".

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Galbee

Ive been teaching one of the groundies i work with, i let him fell a torelliana today a spot on job

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