Tall thin spotty gum removal rigged down knotless videod with helcam

Eric Frei · 30th March 2007, 09:36 PM

Another developer special, these trees are left behind, ex forest remnants. They are usually tall and thin coz they were once competing for sunlight and supported by their nearby mates who had grafted roots and bad weather shelter.

Got bit of a ride up top, tried to hook saw up but just dumped it opting for the pole grab.

3.30 mins and 16mb WMV

www.palmtreeservices.com.au/video/spottygum2.wmv

Sean Freeman · 30th March 2007, 10:27 PM

Nice one Ekka, if those are the same guys on the ground from the other knotless vid they've picked up on their control skills greatly

Had to smile when I saw you dump the saw to hang on... man I've done that a few too many times myself.

Sean

Eric Frei · 30th March 2007, 10:57 PM

Different guys, this is the chipper crew and guess what ... they were wearing helmets.

TreeCo · 30th March 2007, 11:12 PM

Great video!

TREE-SURFER · 31st March 2007, 07:44 AM

Great shooting Ekka. Those pole grabs are good aren't they. Makes on lookers gasp for breath. Don't ya just love em. Excellent crew, know what they're doing.

Eric Frei · 31st March 2007, 03:56 PM

Yeah, I said I'll do things a little different to the last guy and explained what I'm about ... they just went with the flow and enjoyed it.

We all develop our own style and uniqueness as climbers or tree workers. Me, I dislike mess. I like things organised and prepared.

Like a surgeon I'll have slings laid out in order, blocks, biners, saws etc all ready to go. If I need something I'll call it up, including drinks. I like the drop zone relatively clear, ropes tidy etc. And these guys responded to that very well. In fact I commend them on their preparation.

Before that job we had a little fence-line prune job (neighbours fighting over trees yet again), I look and then lay out the gear I'll need, get my high point and call the gear up as required. I think they like it like that, I dont think they're used to it and everything goes smooth.

TrevMcRev · 1st April 2007, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

Different guys, this is the chipper crew and guess what ... they were wearing helmets.

Good to see they are learning something, bettering themselves. As bad as it is what happened to Russell, he needed to learn something about safety too, and hopefully if/when he comes back he has. And now with it creating this opportunity for you to climb with his ground guys, they might learn some habits from you that will save one of their lives.

JohN Dee · 3rd April 2007, 12:14 AM

Very nice video of your take down Ekka, loved that ending with the music n pics.

Mike Poor · 3rd April 2007, 03:47 PM

Yeah, you ROCK Ekka!

Eric Frei · 3rd April 2007, 05:43 PM

You would have snatched that with ya rig would you?

How do you go measuring out as the crow flies when you are bidding ... you pretty used to distances and just look and know you'll get it with 4 picks etc or do you have some laser sighted gizmo that you just aim at the tree and get the distance?

allmarktree · 7th April 2007, 12:23 PM

Great vid...I might have to steal the tunes when I get back in the saddle. When do we get the FOAM CAM view.

Eric Frei · 7th April 2007, 01:08 PM

Picking the sound track takes me ages, you get a sort of idea what you want and end up trying a few things ... before you know it hours have passed.

Also, on the radio lately there's this trend of playing 5 or so songs in a row and you don't always here the titles and artists, make it hard to know what you just heard.

Scottyfl · 9th April 2007, 09:05 AM

Meatloaf one of my favorites, Great job
Scotty

Tim Craig · 11th April 2007, 02:01 AM

Let it run!!!

Nice vid.

How come you didn't lower the rest of the tree in sections, letting them run?

Eric Frei · 11th April 2007, 07:07 AM

Coz it takes too long, you have to move all ya block and crap and root around might as well just block it out and by the time I step outta the tree the groundies have claened the joint up.

Also, the blocks had to be carried out anyway so saves the ground guys more sawing.

No biggie really.

Tim Craig · 11th April 2007, 08:52 AM

Be aware that when you lift these pieces you are compressing your spine then twisting to throw into the target area. I suspect you are aware of this as the pieces were small, occasionally I find when I'm rushing I have a bad habit of taking too large a piece and struggling with it.

I am always amazed when I am back on the ground trying to lift the pieces I threw down, only to find they weigh nearly twice as much as they did in the tree! Must be adrenaline or something that gives you the extra strength.

When there are targets that could be damaged I try to rig down the whole stem as much as possible, I find it quicker as I can take one piece which would be the same as 4 or five smaller pieces.

Depends on the tree really, if I can do step cuts or notches and just push the sections off I will.

Your ground guys did well controlling the rope through portawrap.

How long did you have to train them to let the pieces run properly?

Eric Frei · 11th April 2007, 03:13 PM

Good point on the spine, I usually have a bombing zone and just push them off, where lifting is required I better take it easy next time.

All that adrenelin gets you pumped, and I know what you mean when you get on the ground.

That was the chipper guy, didn't really have to train him ... he knew, he was good.

polly · 11th April 2007, 09:22 PM

I really liked your video Ekka, it was put together really well, I am wondering do you ever use a whoopi sling? By the way where did you get your helmut camera?

Eric Frei · 23rd April 2007, 04:06 PM

Oops, overlooked answering here.

I got it from

http://www.helmetcameras.com.au/

It's a 580 resolution camera.

Nah, I dont use whoopies.

SERGIO · 24th September 2007, 02:30 PM

If your bull rope was not spliced. what kind of knot would you use on your carabiner ?

Sean Freeman · 24th September 2007, 02:46 PM

Through trial and error I have found the buntline hitch one of the best termination knots for rigging with biners.

Eric Frei · 24th September 2007, 06:26 PM

No hitch or knot beats a splice in strength.

Jamie Myers · 25th September 2007, 03:48 AM

i love that helmet cam i gotta get me one of those. might get some nice shot of london before i leave as well

reachtreeservice · 1st November 2007, 02:57 PM

Great vid Erik, I think I enjoyed this one more than any of the others in your collection. Find myself watching it over and over . Bravo and when's the next one ? ... been a while

Eric Frei · 1st November 2007, 03:00 PM

I have a few in the can but I was working on the commercial.

reachtreeservice · 1st November 2007, 03:17 PM

The tree world commercial is outstanding ! I showed it to my wife (who hates tree work )
and even she thought it was great. If you keep it up , you'll be making all the big money doing vid editing and web design. Soon you'll forget all about tree work ! LOL

Eric Frei · 1st November 2007, 03:29 PM

LOL

Some how, I doubt it.

But a little of the web stuff etc is good and those skills help for reports too.

30th March 2007, 09:36 PM	#1
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Tall thin spotty gum removal rigged down knotless videod with helcam Another developer special, these trees are left behind, ex forest remnants. They are usually tall and thin coz they were once competing for sunlight and supported by their nearby mates who had grafted roots and bad weather shelter. Got bit of a ride up top, tried to hook saw up but just dumped it opting for the pole grab. 3.30 mins and 16mb WMV www.palmtreeservices.com.au/video/spottygum2.wmv __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

30th March 2007, 10:57 PM	#3
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Different guys, this is the chipper crew and guess what ... they were wearing helmets. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

31st March 2007, 07:44 AM	#5
TREE-SURFER Mature tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Isle of Man,UK. Posts: 332	Great shooting Ekka. Those pole grabs are good aren't they. Makes on lookers gasp for breath. Don't ya just love em. Excellent crew, know what they're doing. __________________ The Aerial Arborist Isle of Man Tree Surgeon\| All Aspects of Tree Work What experts say about TOPPING

31st March 2007, 03:56 PM	#6
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Yeah, I said I'll do things a little different to the last guy and explained what I'm about ... they just went with the flow and enjoyed it. We all develop our own style and uniqueness as climbers or tree workers. Me, I dislike mess. I like things organised and prepared. Like a surgeon I'll have slings laid out in order, blocks, biners, saws etc all ready to go. If I need something I'll call it up, including drinks. I like the drop zone relatively clear, ropes tidy etc. And these guys responded to that very well. In fact I commend them on their preparation. Before that job we had a little fence-line prune job (neighbours fighting over trees yet again), I look and then lay out the gear I'll need, get my high point and call the gear up as required. I think they like it like that, I dont think they're used to it and everything goes smooth. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

3rd April 2007, 12:14 AM	#8
JohN Dee Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Climbing around the world Posts: 848	Very nice video of your take down Ekka, loved that ending with the music n pics. __________________ We are what we repeatedly do... Excellence then, is not an act, but HABIT... Red : Green : Blue

30th March 2007, 10:27 PM	#2
Sean Freeman Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,981	Nice one Ekka, if those are the same guys on the ground from the other knotless vid they've picked up on their control skills greatly Had to smile when I saw you dump the saw to hang on... man I've done that a few too many times myself. Sean

30th March 2007, 11:12 PM	#4
TreeCo Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 307	Great video!

3rd April 2007, 03:47 PM	#9
Mike Poor Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Urbana, IL,usa Posts: 69	Yeah, you ROCK Ekka!

3rd April 2007, 05:43 PM	#10
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	You would have snatched that with ya rig would you? How do you go measuring out as the crow flies when you are bidding ... you pretty used to distances and just look and know you'll get it with 4 picks etc or do you have some laser sighted gizmo that you just aim at the tree and get the distance? __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

7th April 2007, 12:23 PM	#11
allmarktree Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albany, New York Posts: 116	Great vid...I might have to steal the tunes when I get back in the saddle. When do we get the FOAM CAM view.

7th April 2007, 01:08 PM	#12
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Picking the sound track takes me ages, you get a sort of idea what you want and end up trying a few things ... before you know it hours have passed. Also, on the radio lately there's this trend of playing 5 or so songs in a row and you don't always here the titles and artists, make it hard to know what you just heard. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

9th April 2007, 09:05 AM	#13
Scottyfl Sappling Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Deltona Fl. Posts: 25	Meatloaf one of my favorites, Great job Scotty

11th April 2007, 02:01 AM	#14
Tim Craig Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 130	Let it run!!! Nice vid. How come you didn't lower the rest of the tree in sections, letting them run?

11th April 2007, 07:07 AM	#15
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Coz it takes too long, you have to move all ya block and crap and root around might as well just block it out and by the time I step outta the tree the groundies have claened the joint up. Also, the blocks had to be carried out anyway so saves the ground guys more sawing. No biggie really. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

11th April 2007, 08:52 AM	#16
Tim Craig Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 130	Be aware that when you lift these pieces you are compressing your spine then twisting to throw into the target area. I suspect you are aware of this as the pieces were small, occasionally I find when I'm rushing I have a bad habit of taking too large a piece and struggling with it. I am always amazed when I am back on the ground trying to lift the pieces I threw down, only to find they weigh nearly twice as much as they did in the tree! Must be adrenaline or something that gives you the extra strength. When there are targets that could be damaged I try to rig down the whole stem as much as possible, I find it quicker as I can take one piece which would be the same as 4 or five smaller pieces. Depends on the tree really, if I can do step cuts or notches and just push the sections off I will. Your ground guys did well controlling the rope through portawrap. How long did you have to train them to let the pieces run properly?

11th April 2007, 03:13 PM	#17
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Good point on the spine, I usually have a bombing zone and just push them off, where lifting is required I better take it easy next time. All that adrenelin gets you pumped, and I know what you mean when you get on the ground. That was the chipper guy, didn't really have to train him ... he knew, he was good. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

11th April 2007, 09:22 PM	#18
polly former member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Adelaide Hills Posts: 35	I really liked your video Ekka, it was put together really well, I am wondering do you ever use a whoopi sling? By the way where did you get your helmut camera?

23rd April 2007, 04:06 PM	#19
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Oops, overlooked answering here. I got it from http://www.helmetcameras.com.au/ It's a 580 resolution camera. Nah, I dont use whoopies. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

24th September 2007, 02:30 PM	#20
SERGIO Sappling Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: QUEBEC CANADA Posts: 13	Re: Tall thin spotty gum removal rigged down knotless videod with helcam If your bull rope was not spliced. what kind of knot would you use on your carabiner ?

24th September 2007, 06:26 PM	#22
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Tall thin spotty gum removal rigged down knotless videod with helcam No hitch or knot beats a splice in strength. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

25th September 2007, 03:48 AM	#23
Jamie Myers Mature tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: england Posts: 252	Re: Tall thin spotty gum removal rigged down knotless videod with helcam i love that helmet cam i gotta get me one of those. might get some nice shot of london before i leave as well

1st November 2007, 02:57 PM	#24
reachtreeservice Sappling Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA Posts: 28	Re: Tall thin spotty gum removal rigged down knotless videod with helcam Great vid Erik, I think I enjoyed this one more than any of the others in your collection. Find myself watching it over and over . Bravo and when's the next one ? ... been a while

1st November 2007, 03:00 PM	#25
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Tall thin spotty gum removal rigged down knotless videod with helcam I have a few in the can but I was working on the commercial. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

1st November 2007, 03:17 PM	#26
reachtreeservice Sappling Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA Posts: 28	Re: Tall thin spotty gum removal rigged down knotless videod with helcam The tree world commercial is outstanding ! I showed it to my wife (who hates tree work ) and even she thought it was great. If you keep it up , you'll be making all the big money doing vid editing and web design. Soon you'll forget all about tree work ! LOL

1st November 2007, 03:29 PM	#27
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Tall thin spotty gum removal rigged down knotless videod with helcam LOL Some how, I doubt it. But a little of the web stuff etc is good and those skills help for reports too. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

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