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Old 1st February 2008, 10:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This is the video of the split Beech tree that I posted pictures of.

Actually, its two video?s taken over the consecutive Saturdays. The first one starts a little dark, as was the day, but the quality improves so hang in there. The second one is much brighter Some peculiar sounds on both so turn up your volume.

About 20 minutes to watch both. Thanks


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YouTube - Beech tree felling, Knutsford, England day 1


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Old 1st February 2008, 05:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Great vid Reg,
Alot of time gone into that one.
Good shots taken from your mate in the tree as well.
Hope you didn't have to clean all that up!!!
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Old 1st February 2008, 06:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Reg once again GREAT video. You truly are a skillful great climber.

The part I loved best was in the first link. Time: 6:47 to 7:40. This demonstrates your years of experience and expertise. This is how all great climbers should climb. Smooth and relaxed while pacing yourself.


All great, but the thumb

I noticed you tucked it away on a few though
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Old 2nd February 2008, 12:40 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Reg once again GREAT video. You truly are a skillful great climber.

The part I loved best was in the first link. Time: 6:47 to 7:40. This demonstrates your years of experience and expertise. This is how all great climbers should climb. Smooth and relaxed while pacing yourself.


All great, but the thumb

I noticed you tucked it away on a few though
Thanks John, I'm going to pin that picture on my back door so its the last thing I look at before I leave for work.
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Old 2nd February 2008, 01:50 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Is that your thumb John???
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Old 2nd February 2008, 01:55 AM   #6 (permalink)
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LOL...makes you think.......
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Is that your thumb John???
LMAO, nah its not it's just a picture I googled. I've never had a broken bone, but JEEZ i've hurt them...
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Grip down on that saw I tell myself 10 times a day. Thumb gos under the handle and that is your # 1 defence against kickback. I get tired and find myself holding onto a saw like a 11 year old girl. no no young bucky hold on. Its not if, its when. By the time your mind reacts to the kickback its already happend. I'v made a habit of locking my left elbow to so if something happens the saw flies strait up. Be safe out there guys and dont be shy about setting someone strait when it comes to saw safety.
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Old 2nd February 2008, 02:06 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Nice video reg,I didn't see structure,lines or anything in the area but i could be wrong.if all was clear why not just drop it?
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Old 2nd February 2008, 04:17 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Nice video reg,I didn't see structure,lines or anything in the area but i could be wrong.if all was clear why not just drop it?
If only!

Well apart from being a huge speading top compressing a multiple split trunk, there just wasn't the room with all the surrounding trees.

Also, I'd have considered it a far more dangerous task to have dismantle such a large limbed, speciman, detached at the base and lying on its side than to deal with an errect one but that was still a anchored at its base.

And Re: the kickback. While I'm not condoning or encouraging misplaced thumbs, lets not overlook the reasons why kick-back happens in the first place. It is not random and at no point during this particular job was I ever, ever at risk of losing control. Its the right thing to point it out, nobody wants to set a bad example, but let me asure anyone who's wondering that my concentration switches to a different level as a risk, any risk, increases.

There's not much gets past this radar. But to operate on such a heightened state of red-alert throughout an entire job would be exhausting. So, as John pointed out earlier, yes I do pace my self but mentaly as well as physically.

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Grip down on that saw I tell myself 10 times a day. Thumb gos under the handle and that is your # 1 defence against kickback. I get tired and find myself holding onto a saw like a 11 year old girl. no no young bucky hold on. Its not if, its when. By the time your mind reacts to the kickback its already happend. I'v made a habit of locking my left elbow to so if something happens the saw flies strait up. Be safe out there guys and dont be shy about setting someone strait when it comes to saw safety.
The number one defense against kickback is learning and deploying the proper and proven techniques in chainsaw use. Gripping the saw thoroughly and tucking your thumb down are a few (Good) pieces of the equation but there is much more to do at hand to eradicate kick back occuring.

I could go into what my saw use consists of but it would be much to long and painful to try and type and explain to you (from my end). Plus this isn't the right place for it.



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And Re: the kickback. While I'm not condoning or encouraging misplaced thumbs, lets not overlook the reasons why kick-back happens in the first place. It is not random and at no point during this particular job was I ever, ever at risk of losing control. Its the right thing to point it out, nobody wants to set a bad example, but let me asure anyone who's wondering that my concentration switches to a different level as a risk, any risk, increases.
I didn't doubt it for a second. Hopefully by me repeating about your thumb, we can over time help you eradicate that bad habit
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Old 3rd February 2008, 03:35 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Hopefully by me repeating about your thumb, we can over time help you eradicate that bad habit
Thanks JohN, we all need a little help now and then!
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Old 3rd February 2008, 04:42 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Nice work Reg.

Ya gotta love the jobs where it's just "bombs away".

I've never done a beech tree, what's it like to work with?

It looked about the same softness as a pine tree?

That trunk was huge, tell us more about the back cut you did

p.s. what lifeline do you use? it looked great in the video.
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Old 3rd February 2008, 11:31 AM   #14 (permalink)
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A release cut, while traditionally used for leaning tree?s, leaves you in a pretty safe position when the time comes to let the tree go. I think its fair to say there?s a lot more chance of a tree going sideways than it toppling over directly backwards?if at all.

If I?m felling something large or precarious, I?ll normally take this extra measure if I think it?ll give me an advantage. The splits on this tree extended right the way down to no more than a meter off where I had to make the felling cuts. We had it tied up pretty good around the splits but I still wanted to be directly behind the tree at the finish.

Also, I?ll always bore the middle out of a tree that has been de-limbed or has no top weight (not shown on the video).

I use an angled release cut because my posture/stance allows a little more distance from the tree, so I have a better view of what?s going on up top. And no, it has never snatched the saw cutting above the back cut, at least, not as part of a felling sequence coming down at such an angle.

Beech are hard and heavy, not as stringy as a euc but not as brittle as a maple either. Thanks
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This is the video of the split Beech tree that I posted pictures of.

Actually, its two video?s taken over the consecutive Saturdays. The first one starts a little dark, as was the day, but the quality improves so hang in there. The second one is much brighter Some peculiar sounds on both so turn up your volume.

About 20 minutes to watch both. Thanks


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YouTube - Beech tree felling, Knutsford, Day 2
Spectacular work Reg.
I was watching another of yours POV1 helmet camera of tree climber
Again, great worksmanship in a tight spot. (Don't you just love 'em?)
One question though, where did you get that felling bar from? can you post a picture of it?
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Old 3rd February 2008, 02:48 PM   #16 (permalink)
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