Speedline wizards.

newguy18 · 2nd March 2008, 09:23 PM

i just saw this on youtube and thought i would share.
YouTube - Speedline Wizards

Ekka · 3rd March 2008, 12:53 AM

That's not true speed lining.

More a tyroline traverse come flying fox to move load.

True speed lining is done from the tree for each part cut. That climber just made a mess and they moved it, simple as that.

Jerry really needs to get some new music too.

jim1nz · 3rd March 2008, 04:09 PM

Suppose it worked ok, with 6 or so blokes running around and a big hiab crain truck you would hope they could get it done. More like a forestry hauler rig i reckon.

Therrin · 3rd March 2008, 10:42 PM

Ahhh, I see the vid was made by the guy NG is gonna probably end up living with once he gets over here

Looks like they've done it alot at least.

Coulda sworn I saw the guy only using one flipline at one point, then released it to move up and reset it.

Did make a mess though, letting the stuff fall straight off like that. With that crane thing they had it wouldn't have been hard for the climber to speedline it straight from the tree, with the guy at the crane re-tensioning it each time. For the dead stuff the dia might have been too small for the upper half of the tree though, I dunno.

jim1nz · 4th March 2008, 06:11 AM

There looked like there was plenty of trees behind the one or ones coming out to set a main line from...

George Hayduke · 4th March 2008, 06:31 AM

Arm chair quarter backing going on here

Dumping directly to a speedline generates HUGE loads. Do the math before you consider this practice. Having the line tensioned by the KB and adding loads would likely damage the KB.

There are many more pictures of the site and the job at tr ee bu zz dot com

After watching the vid I see the merit in putting everything on the ground up top then piling for transport. Much quicker and safer overall.

newguy18 · 4th March 2008, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Therrin

Ahhh, I see the vid was made by the guy NG is gonna probably end up living with once he gets over here

Looks like they've done it alot at least.

Coulda sworn I saw the guy only using one flipline at one point, then released it to move up and reset it.

Did make a mess though, letting the stuff fall straight off like that. With that crane thing they had it wouldn't have been hard for the climber to speedline it straight from the tree, with the guy at the crane re-tensioning it each time. For the dead stuff the dia might have been too small for the upper half of the tree though, I dunno.

Live with him?Just going to meet him i don't take that kind of offer.

TREEMONKEY · 4th March 2008, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Hayduke

Arm chair quarter backing going on here

Dumping directly to a speedline generates HUGE loads. Do the math before you consider this practice. Having the line tensioned by the KB and adding loads would likely damage the KB.
l.

You can speed line without dumping heavy loads on to the speed line.

With the speed line slack you can Use a block or natural crotch and a separate rigging line dump the heavy load on the block then tension up the speed line after and use original rigging line to control the speed of the traverse.

jim1nz · 4th March 2008, 02:44 PM

Good call treemonkey.

Yea the way they did it in the vid is much quicker and safer if you dont know how to speedline correctly... Oh and you have 5 or 6 spare blokes to clean up the mess

George Hayduke · 4th March 2008, 05:53 PM

TM,

A load transfer line is a different setup. It takes the slam-dunk out of the rigging. In this scenario I think that I'd do exactly what they did.

Angus · 5th March 2008, 04:07 AM

From memory I think Xman was saying one reason they couldn't just let the loads rip down the line was because the mess it would make, and the limited space they had to make that mess. There is a description on the buzz... I better check I haven't got my wires crossed...
Interesting job IMO.

2nd March 2008, 09:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
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3rd March 2008, 12:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,916	Re: Speedline wizards. That's not true speed lining. More a tyroline traverse come flying fox to move load. True speed lining is done from the tree for each part cut. That climber just made a mess and they moved it, simple as that. Jerry really needs to get some new music too. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

3rd March 2008, 04:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tauranga, New Zealand Posts: 296	Re: Speedline wizards. Suppose it worked ok, with 6 or so blokes running around and a big hiab crain truck you would hope they could get it done. More like a forestry hauler rig i reckon. __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

3rd March 2008, 10:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,273	Re: Speedline wizards. Ahhh, I see the vid was made by the guy NG is gonna probably end up living with once he gets over here Looks like they've done it alot at least. Coulda sworn I saw the guy only using one flipline at one point, then released it to move up and reset it. Did make a mess though, letting the stuff fall straight off like that. With that crane thing they had it wouldn't have been hard for the climber to speedline it straight from the tree, with the guy at the crane re-tensioning it each time. For the dead stuff the dia might have been too small for the upper half of the tree though, I dunno.

4th March 2008, 06:11 AM	#5 (permalink)
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tauranga, New Zealand Posts: 296	Re: Speedline wizards. There looked like there was plenty of trees behind the one or ones coming out to set a main line from... __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

4th March 2008, 06:31 AM	#6 (permalink)
George Hayduke Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Slickrock, USA Posts: 92	Re: Speedline wizards. Arm chair quarter backing going on here Dumping directly to a speedline generates HUGE loads. Do the math before you consider this practice. Having the line tensioned by the KB and adding loads would likely damage the KB. There are many more pictures of the site and the job at tr ee bu zz dot com After watching the vid I see the merit in putting everything on the ground up top then piling for transport. Much quicker and safer overall.

4th March 2008, 02:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tauranga, New Zealand Posts: 296	Re: Speedline wizards. Good call treemonkey. Yea the way they did it in the vid is much quicker and safer if you dont know how to speedline correctly... Oh and you have 5 or 6 spare blokes to clean up the mess __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

4th March 2008, 05:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
George Hayduke Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Slickrock, USA Posts: 92	Re: Speedline wizards. TM, A load transfer line is a different setup. It takes the slam-dunk out of the rigging. In this scenario I think that I'd do exactly what they did.

5th March 2008, 04:07 AM	#11 (permalink)
Angus Sappling Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 17	Re: Speedline wizards. From memory I think Xman was saying one reason they couldn't just let the loads rip down the line was because the mess it would make, and the limited space they had to make that mess. There is a description on the buzz... I better check I haven't got my wires crossed... Interesting job IMO. __________________ www.sherbrooketreeservice.com

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