Palm abseiling | retrieving SRT high line | figure 8

Eric Frei · 3rd November 2007, 11:35 PM

Featuring a newish Aussie band I just reckon that track ROCKS!

I like doing SRT abseils not backed up, sorry, but it's true.

You Tube

Jeff Darby · 4th November 2007, 07:58 AM

Hey Ekka,
Good video as usuall, No back up to the 8 naughty boy

At least folks see what your not supposed to do aswell as the correct technique,John uses the running bowline technique all the time while blocking down the trunk, Nice acurate bombing out of the tops of those Coco's.
All The Best
JayD

soutz · 4th November 2007, 04:53 PM

Yep i use the same technique.saw it in a sherril catalogue a while back for doing big stems works well and i think it is a safe technique to use especially on palms.nice vid yet again.ekka you need to change your name to yoda mate

newguy18 · 11th November 2007, 03:00 PM

Nice video Eric and good acurate felling on those chitsticks and also good trick for abseiling.

newguy18 · 13th November 2007, 07:49 AM

hey Eric whats the name of that song?i want to add it to my project playlist.

Eric Frei · 13th November 2007, 06:15 PM

Rogue Traders ... Voodoo Child

newguy18 · 14th November 2007, 02:29 AM

thanks.

treefeller · 14th November 2007, 05:21 AM

Cool vid their dude

samuel beazley · 17th November 2007, 08:56 PM

nice vid mate and great choice of music

arbdog · 15th December 2007, 01:15 AM

what does the fugure 8 do? i got one but dont know how to use it!

Eric Frei · 15th December 2007, 08:23 AM

LIke rock climbers and cavers you can descend SRT (single rope) without your hitch binding up.

Mike Poor · 17th December 2007, 04:34 PM

Ekka you are definately The palm slayer! Good work again!

brendonv · 18th December 2007, 07:10 AM

Ekka,

The way you tie your repell line, are you threading the whole line through the midline knot you tied to come down on your 8 to make it retreivable? Wouldn't a midline knot and a steel biner girth hitched be quicker than threading the tail of the other line through? Or am I missing something?

Around time 2:03-2:05

Thanks,

Brendon

newguy18 · 18th December 2007, 10:49 AM

Weicome brendon if you look you will see that he unclips the eight from his carabiner and threads the eight midline.

brendonv · 18th December 2007, 11:05 AM

im not talking about the 8. I know how to use one. I am talking about how he has 2 tails of the climbing line, one for the retreival, and one for the repell.

Eric Frei · 18th December 2007, 01:49 PM

Yes, you can tie a figure 8 knot with short loop and stick a biner in it.

The old Petzel magazine/catalogue had this toward the front but I think they removed it.

Perhaps 2 reasons they removed it, one is biner cross loading freaks getting up them and two is they showed it on a straigh parallel pole (similar to palms) but of course no notch and maybe, just maybe some-one fell. You see, you rely on weight cinching the two ropes together via the biner. But it could happen that during your descent or whatever if weight is taken off the system the whole thing slides down.

I do that too on long really long ones but always notch the spar, I use a 50kn Kong screwgate for that, but dont show it coz some idiot will fall and blame me plus all those cross loaded biner wankers will be foaming at the mouth.

I suppose you could use anything though, a strong clevis shackle etc.

nick · 6th January 2008, 09:25 AM

Cool vid that Ekka. Good tune too.

After working in that heat is it ok to jump in the customer`s pool ?
Or would that be frowned upon ?

shaggs · 6th January 2008, 09:36 AM

Just a thought Ekka...why do you use the figure 8 descender over an in line descender?
Is there a specific reason or just personal preference?
Cheers

quercus · 6th January 2008, 06:59 PM

Nice video, Ekka... and uhm... I'd sure like to be her voodoo child...
I'd prefer a grigri though...But then again we don't have anything here with such a smooth bark...

Victor Lindsay · 27th July 2008, 03:17 PM

Hey Eka,
I use that techq. whenever i clean a palm using hooks. Spike my way up, then repel down. but i side load a beaner, cleaning a palm, not a takedown. Cann't cut a notch in palm not tagged for takedown.

kidesqu · 29th July 2008, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brendonv

how he has 2 tails of the climbing line, one for the retreival, and one for the repell.

a video doing this, pls !!!

Eric Frei · 29th July 2008, 01:44 PM

Just tie it with a long tail but you can do the biner idea too, however I'd suggest over kill on the biner, I use a 50Kn one, steel.

kidesqu · 31st July 2008, 09:26 AM

Seen the video again I just realized that you prepare the system in land before rising. Thanks for a new learning.

4th November 2007, 07:58 AM	#2
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,031	Re: Palm abseiling \| retrieving SRT high line \| figure 8 Hey Ekka, Good video as usuall, No back up to the 8 naughty boy At least folks see what your not supposed to do aswell as the correct technique,John uses the running bowline technique all the time while blocking down the trunk, Nice acurate bombing out of the tops of those Coco's. All The Best JayD __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

4th November 2007, 04:53 PM	#3
soutz Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: new zealand Posts: 80	Re: Palm abseiling \| retrieving SRT high line \| figure 8 Yep i use the same technique.saw it in a sherril catalogue a while back for doing big stems works well and i think it is a safe technique to use especially on palms.nice vid yet again.ekka you need to change your name to yoda mate

11th November 2007, 03:00 PM	#4
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Palm abseiling \| retrieving SRT high line \| figure 8 Nice video Eric and good acurate felling on those chitsticks and also good trick for abseiling. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

13th November 2007, 07:49 AM	#5
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Palm abseiling \| retrieving SRT high line \| figure 8 hey Eric whats the name of that song?i want to add it to my project playlist. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

13th November 2007, 06:15 PM	#6
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Palm abseiling \| retrieving SRT high line \| figure 8 Rogue Traders ... Voodoo Child __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

14th November 2007, 02:29 AM	#7
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Palm abseiling \| retrieving SRT high line \| figure 8 thanks. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

14th November 2007, 05:21 AM	#8
treefeller Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: aaa Posts: 224	Re: Palm abseiling \| retrieving SRT high line \| figure 8 Cool vid their dude

17th November 2007, 08:56 PM	#9
samuel beazley Sappling Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: bulli Posts: 11	Re: Palm abseiling \| retrieving SRT high line \| figure 8 nice vid mate and great choice of music

15th December 2007, 01:15 AM	#10
arbdog Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: england Posts: 108	Re: Palm abseiling \| retrieving SRT high line \| figure 8 what does the fugure 8 do? i got one but dont know how to use it!

15th December 2007, 08:23 AM	#11
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Palm abseiling \| retrieving SRT high line \| figure 8 LIke rock climbers and cavers you can descend SRT (single rope) without your hitch binding up. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

17th December 2007, 04:34 PM	#12
Mike Poor Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Urbana, IL,usa Posts: 69	Re: Palm abseiling \| retrieving SRT high line \| figure 8 Ekka you are definately The palm slayer! Good work again!

18th December 2007, 07:10 AM	#13
brendonv Sappling Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CT Posts: 16	Re: Palm abseiling \| retrieving SRT high line \| figure 8 Ekka, The way you tie your repell line, are you threading the whole line through the midline knot you tied to come down on your 8 to make it retreivable? Wouldn't a midline knot and a steel biner girth hitched be quicker than threading the tail of the other line through? Or am I missing something? Around time 2:03-2:05 Thanks, Brendon

18th December 2007, 10:49 AM	#14
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Palm abseiling \| retrieving SRT high line \| figure 8 Weicome brendon if you look you will see that he unclips the eight from his carabiner and threads the eight midline. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

18th December 2007, 11:05 AM	#15
brendonv Sappling Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: CT Posts: 16	Re: Palm abseiling \| retrieving SRT high line \| figure 8 im not talking about the 8. I know how to use one. I am talking about how he has 2 tails of the climbing line, one for the retreival, and one for the repell.

18th December 2007, 01:49 PM	#16
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Palm abseiling \| retrieving SRT high line \| figure 8 Yes, you can tie a figure 8 knot with short loop and stick a biner in it. The old Petzel magazine/catalogue had this toward the front but I think they removed it. Perhaps 2 reasons they removed it, one is biner cross loading freaks getting up them and two is they showed it on a straigh parallel pole (similar to palms) but of course no notch and maybe, just maybe some-one fell. You see, you rely on weight cinching the two ropes together via the biner. But it could happen that during your descent or whatever if weight is taken off the system the whole thing slides down. I do that too on long really long ones but always notch the spar, I use a 50kn Kong screwgate for that, but dont show it coz some idiot will fall and blame me plus all those cross loaded biner wankers will be foaming at the mouth. I suppose you could use anything though, a strong clevis shackle etc. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

6th January 2008, 09:25 AM	#17
nick Sappling Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Manchester uk Posts: 11	Re: Palm abseiling \| retrieving SRT high line \| figure 8 Cool vid that Ekka. Good tune too. After working in that heat is it ok to jump in the customer`s pool ? Or would that be frowned upon ? __________________ Tree Surgeon Manchester

6th January 2008, 09:36 AM	#18
shaggs Mature tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 422	Re: Palm abseiling \| retrieving SRT high line \| figure 8 Just a thought Ekka...why do you use the figure 8 descender over an in line descender? Is there a specific reason or just personal preference? Cheers

6th January 2008, 06:59 PM	#19
quercus Mature tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: belgium Posts: 368	Re: Palm abseiling \| retrieving SRT high line \| figure 8 Nice video, Ekka... and uhm... I'd sure like to be her voodoo child... I'd prefer a grigri though...But then again we don't have anything here with such a smooth bark...

27th July 2008, 03:17 PM	#20
Victor Lindsay Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 421	Re: Palm abseiling \| retrieving SRT high line \| figure 8 Hey Eka, I use that techq. whenever i clean a palm using hooks. Spike my way up, then repel down. but i side load a beaner, cleaning a palm, not a takedown. Cann't cut a notch in palm not tagged for takedown.

29th July 2008, 01:44 PM	#22
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Palm abseiling \| retrieving SRT high line \| figure 8 Just tie it with a long tail but you can do the biner idea too, however I'd suggest over kill on the biner, I use a 50Kn one, steel. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

31st July 2008, 09:26 AM	#23
kidesqu Sappling Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Argentina Posts: 20	Re: Palm abseiling \| retrieving SRT high line \| figure 8 Seen the video again I just realized that you prepare the system in land before rising. Thanks for a new learning.

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