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Eric Frei

LOL, wouldn't have been a lot of tree left after cleaning that crap up!

Rather be the climber than the groundy too fetching all those shattered bits.

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Garry Brockley

Yeah when they die back they do a good job, it takes alot of work on some of the old un touched ones. i hate messy ground jobs like that. at 4:40 on the video he cut straight through the branch collar or at least thats what i saw.

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newguy18

I really can't tell if thats a collar or not.Then again my eye's are bad.

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Garry Brockley

Too much beer again huh

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OutofMytree

Man that looked like a fun job..... for the climber. I hate dealing with dead wood especially that much of it....Hopefully got dragged off for a bonfire!

newguy18

Nope,just near sighted and don't havn't had glasses for 9 years.

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Eric Frei

LOL, Berenek busted!

Now just before he cuts this stub off he cut the broken twisted still attached but green end off, so this was a live branch.

Had it have been completely dead you could argue that you cut it back to live tissue.

The red arrow shows the end of the collar (cutting point)

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Sean Freeman

I assumed he was just filming the cutting for the heck of it since the tree gets felled in the end?

Eric Frei

If the tree gets felled then why bother doing all that? A tree was felled but I dont think that one.

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Sunraysia Tree Solutions

In Melbourne we did a lot of deadwooding of Montery Cypress only problem I found is that you were going back 2 to three months later to clean up a couple of cracked or hung up live branches.

I know deadwood is unsightly but:
The problem is that with taking out so much deadwood you expose limbs to wind forces that they arn't accustomed to and therefore you have failure.

Cypress as we see in the video have an uncanny ability to 'hold' lots of deadwood so is deadwood in these trees dangerous and if it is how dangerous as compared say to a open structed tree like a Spotted Gum ( Euc) ?

I suppose you could argue that the "new" broken limbs( the ones that break after deadwooding)would probably get hooked up like the others so why not do it but isn't part of being an arborist to prevent further damage?

any thoughts ?

Sean Freeman

Well you are probably right it was a different tree, but as to why bother doing any of that...very good question...I quess the trees were much worse and the road much busier than they looked in the vid?

Sure.....if the tree owner wanted the larger deadwood removed for his/her peace of mind, but in terms of the actual risk of significant harm?

OutofMytree

Looked like a safety issue to me. Did you see how long it took for the "ten pound" deader he dropped to hit the ground? Doing a rose gum prune on Thursday for just that reason. This tree dropped a branch in a little boys sand pit.

It's a bit of a trick isn't it. Part of the challenge of being an Arborist in suburbia. You have to find a balance between what is safe now vs safe five years from now. I think thats one of the best parts of my job.

Sean Freeman

For me personally its more a question of helping people identify the difference between what is the assessable risk and what is the percieved risk. What the targets are, what the assessment of the tree reveals and what options the owner then has to manage the tree and the assessed risk.

newguy18

I also noticed alot of the live branches he cut were cracked,broken,or decaying.As for the one over the road,it appeared okay ,but maybe the client wanted it removed too,or the was a defect that we couldn't see.Last time I looked,its a liability to leave a defective limb in place after finding the defect,here in the u.s anyway.I also liked the part where he said,'the tautline hitch is not and obsolete knot."

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Sean Freeman

Sure Bill, only too willing to accept the climber in the tree has a much better view than me watching it through the PC, no probs and as I said before if the tree owner was wanting things removed for their peace of mind also fine (so long as the work doesn't exceed the correct dose)

newguy18

I didn't see to much live wood removed,also keep in mind he was going back and forth from tree to tree,which makes it kinda hard to tell when he's moved.I'm not putting your opinion down,i'm just simply saying what i saw and wondering if you saw the same.

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Eric Frei

Either way would have been a good job ... unless you were on the ground.

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TrevMcRev

Very well put

newguy18

So true.

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