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Old 2nd June 2009, 06:27 PM   #1
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Default Lanyard techniques

Just a video to give a few ideas.

Some suggest backing up the figure 8 with a prussik instead of a soft lock, my 8 has ears so I can hard lock it too if need be, depends on your set up I suppose. I did back it once in the video on this thread.

Palm abseiling | retrieving SRT high line | figure 8

Anyway that's what this place is all about .... discussion, like swapping out the 8 for a Gri Gri etc.

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I really liked the video Ekka, and it seemed like a really good way to get out of Dodge if something went bad. Not an overly complicated setup as well, which I also liked.
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I started useing that system and other variances of it after seeing it on the vid and love the ease of movement and reliability of the system, I have prussiked above it with a Klem before that was a good system but i needed a slightly longer prussik rope, and i regularly use a gri gri system which is easily the best to use on palms ect, but on all systems i use a karabina not a bowline its just so easy and quick to move and reset.
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If you use a biner, the Petzl Omni is the way to go.

It is designed to be loaded in 3 directions.

You will have loading in 2 directions in cinching the choke around the stem & a 3rd in the descent line you're coming down on.
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If you use a biner, the Petzl Omni is the way to go.

It is designed to be loaded in 3 directions.

You will have loading in 2 directions in cinching the choke around the stem & a 3rd in the descent line you're coming down on.
Trev, you may want to check, there's only two parts of rope acting on the biner meaning 2 directional forces.

The rope is choked and you abseil it.

What happens is you pass enough tail of the rope so it's at your next work point or ground etc. Tie a figure 8 knot, girth hitch the rope with a biner and abseil down (not on the tail/knot side!!). I do notch palms when doing this as sometimes the trunks are tapering the wrong way and it can slip if you take weight off. (Cubans can do this a bit)
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A pic from a couple of months ago no cross loading just keeping it simple, i now have a new figure 8 as this is the one i started with.

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Yeah i think you're right. I know the technique, learned it 12 years ago, but like you did without the biner.

In my mind it seemed like the biner would have potential to side load, which you also mentioned was a concern to some, and recomended the 50kn.

The Omni just sprang to mind for that application but i suppose isn't really necessary afterall!
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Hey we are all here to learn,at one level or another.
the gri gri is soooooooo much easier to use though when i can find the pic i will post it up.
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All my biners are 50kn Kong steel so I'm well above in safety factor.

But that's the pic Galbee.
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Hello from Ohio.....All I can say is keep the pictures and videos coming being a green horn at all this I greatly appreciate you guys. I am a beginner and find it hard to find pictures/videos on techniques. I believe I have watch just about all of your vids EKKA and am glad you and all your freinds are a part of this site.....Keep up the good work and Thanks Again
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Default Re: Lanyard techniques

Hey guys, good points all around. Just a small variation I use sometimes.... It can be annoying tying a running bowline with that much tail so i sometimes just tie an alpine butterfly midline and put a carabiner through so I can loosen off my point, especially it there is rough bark or stubs... Also sometimes a biner can get caught under load etc. just my two cents
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