Lanyard Adjustment

Streyken · 13th May 2007, 08:21 PM

Basic old style lanyard adjustment. Tried a Petzl grab, didn't like for the 5/8 cord.

lanyard01.wmv

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It can be let out easily with either hand. In the video I used my left, while climbing I usually use my right.

Eric Frei · 13th May 2007, 09:01 PM

Pretty effective ... KISS principal at it's best. Ideal for the jobs you're doing.

allmarktree · 18th May 2007, 05:35 AM

Is that rated? What safety factor is there. I know it is steel core but it looks to be bending on an edge. Not good for rope? What brand is it or is it home made?

Streyken · 18th May 2007, 05:46 AM

It's rated at 14,700 lbs. Yup, homemade.

<edit> That's the lanyard, if you mean the steel plate - no idea. Had my rope thrown through the chipper and yank my spurs out once, the only thing to bend with regards to my lanyard was the quick-link before ripping the back of my saddle.</edit>

OsAGe85 · 23rd September 2007, 11:24 AM

Bunch of cool pics in there man.

cut-right · 9th March 2008, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Streyken

It's rated at 14,700 lbs. Yup, homemade.

<edit> That's the lanyard, if you mean the steel plate - no idea. Had my rope thrown through the chipper and yank my spurs out once, the only thing to bend with regards to my lanyard was the quick-link before ripping the back of my saddle.</edit>

I have worried about this happening on several jobs where the chipper is close enough to the tree, which is almost all of the time. Its one of those things that I always try to keep an eye on, so do my workers. I am constantly moving the climbers rope. I am sitting here trying to imagine how it went down, .. scary.

(WLL) · 13th March 2009, 01:37 PM

+2 on the maxi-flip. before the maxi i'd never use a wire core.

newguy18 · 13th March 2009, 02:21 PM

Itried steel core lines,both shelf bought and homemade,didn't like either one.It gives a false sense of security imo.

TrevMcRev · 13th March 2009, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Itried steel core lines,both shelf bought and homemade,didn't like either one.It gives a false sense of security imo.

Bill they definately take more effort to cut through with a chainsaw than a rope one under load. A nick with the saw = either damaged line on your steel core or your rope one severed and you on your a55 at the bottom of the tree.

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+2 on the maxi-flip. before the maxi i'd never use a wire core.

Maxis are good

newguy18 · 14th March 2009, 02:02 AM

On the same not trev,you could also have a careless climber think they are cut proof and he could fall on his a55 because it gave him a false sense of security.i keep a good eye on my flipline while cutting.

(WLL) · 14th March 2009, 02:29 AM

How is it a false sense of security, when you and I both know a chainsaw will buzz right threw the wire core? One should never run a saw without 2 points of attachment!!!Don't ever cut your lanyard, rope or wire. IMO there is no false sense of security when cutting. f.s.o.s is using the cheap crimped junk wire core or thinking its ok to use a nicked rope on a cover dependent line. If it looks, feels, ugly &/or distorted than it is bad. f.s.o.s will kill or hurt, know your gear and know your place. the wire core is called a flip line cause of its stiffness, its not cut resistant. we do not call our rope lanyard a flip line cause it don't flip.

newguy18 · 14th March 2009, 03:44 PM

Rope lanyards don't flip,you must be using soft rope,i use 3 strand hard lay rope for my lanyards and they flip just as good as wire cores,most people don't get a false sense of security,but there are climbers who think that a wirecore is gonna keep them from falling if a chainsaw cuts it.I personally believe that if one is worried about cutting thier lines with a saw,or isn't paying attention to thier lines,that person shouldn't be climbing and rigging trees.

JohN Dee · 14th March 2009, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newguy18

On the same not trev,you could also have a careless climber think they are cut proof and he could fall on his a55 because it gave him a false sense of security.i keep a good eye on my flipline while cutting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by newguy18

Rope lanyards don't flip,you must be using soft rope,i use 3 strand hard lay rope for my lanyards and they flip just as good as wire cores,most people don't get a false sense of security,but there are climbers who think that a wirecore is gonna keep them from falling if a chainsaw cuts it.I personally believe that if one is worried about cutting thier lines with a saw,or isn't paying attention to thier lines,that person shouldn't be climbing and rigging trees.

.... Bill... *sigh*

I use a 4 metre Sala Flipline. Biggest and most expensive you can get off of the shelf. You really think I want to spend $250 on a new one because I thought it was cut proof? The only security it gives me (besides the standard passive attachment) is that it is fricken thicker then one of the flimsy pole straps. When I'm using the 066 on big wood and can't see the back of my flipline I'm always worried I'm gunna cut it (even nicking it would be a pain in the ass)

I cut one way back on the early days of my climbing... Definately not cut proof, but it is cut resistant - especially compared to a rope one or one of those darn pole straps.

Oh and using three strand is a lot more stiff then say using Hi-vee line...

newguy18 · 15th March 2009, 02:28 AM

If you guys like the steel core thats fine use them,i always make sure my flipline is clear when cutting,even on big sticks.It seems to me that most people who cut thier lines are either in a hurry,or they don't pay attention to thier lines position.There would be less accidents cutting lifelines if people would take an extra minute or so,and put thier lines well below where they plan to cut.I'm just as safe on my rope flipline as you are on your steel core.

(WLL) · 15th March 2009, 03:58 AM

i like to take a step up leaving my lanyard on a downward slopping pitch. i spend lot of time splicing my lanyards and spending big money on my maxi flip so i learned to stop cutting them very fast. anymore, my equipment wears out before i destroy it with reckless/poor practice. i started very young and was a good climber by the time i turned 18, to keep things interesting I'm always trying to smooth out my skill and always working on style. i was born with an abnormality which automatically makes me plan ahead, i also dig deep inside my little brain picking everything apart and figuring out why things work the way they do. the doc says i have adhd along with a learning disability, so i thought about that too, and come to the conclusion that i just don't give a rats ass about anything i don't give a rats ass about. i love to climb and take a lil something from everyone, i just cant help myself. over the years i have become a finely tuned climber who just wants more. i enjoy doing hook-less removals to keep me from being board, until something new catches my eye's ill be searching and experimenting with whatever interests me. bring it on tree world

TrevMcRev · 15th March 2009, 05:14 PM

I like your attitude WLL

(WLL) · 16th March 2009, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TrevMcRev

I like your attitude WLL

mate, i enjoy reading your posts

TrevMcRev · 16th March 2009, 02:04 PM

Oh and for the record, i use both steel core or rope lanyards depending on the task at hand

Generally, steel for removals - when on spurs working up a trunk up or blocking down i prefer the feel & security of it.

For most pruning even with a chainsaw i prefer rope - different positioning and cutting situations, usually extended away from the body and attachments so i dont feel the risk is as high, plus less restricted movement about the canopy.

13th May 2007, 08:21 PM	#1
Streyken Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 150	Lanyard Adjustment Basic old style lanyard adjustment. Tried a Petzl grab, didn't like for the 5/8 cord. lanyard01.wmv Pics: Index of /pics/lanyard It can be let out easily with either hand. In the video I used my left, while climbing I usually use my right. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Trimmin' bush and caring for flowers is good 'n' all... but sometimes ya gotta let the big wood fly and pound the garden.

13th May 2007, 09:01 PM	#2
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Pretty effective ... KISS principal at it's best. Ideal for the jobs you're doing. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

18th May 2007, 05:46 AM	#4
Streyken Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 150	It's rated at 14,700 lbs. Yup, homemade. <edit> That's the lanyard, if you mean the steel plate - no idea. Had my rope thrown through the chipper and yank my spurs out once, the only thing to bend with regards to my lanyard was the quick-link before ripping the back of my saddle.</edit> __________________ Trimmin' bush and caring for flowers is good 'n' all... but sometimes ya gotta let the big wood fly and pound the garden. Last edited by Streyken; 18th May 2007 at 06:09 AM. Reason: added info.

23rd September 2007, 11:24 AM	#5
OsAGe85 Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Littlerock Arkansas US Posts: 59	Re: Lanyard Adjustment Bunch of cool pics in there man. __________________ Gotta love the smell 2 stroke and wood chips. Be smart, be safe.

13th March 2009, 01:37 PM	#7
(WLL) Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: pa Posts: 240	Re: Lanyard Adjustment +2 on the maxi-flip. before the maxi i'd never use a wire core.

18th May 2007, 05:35 AM	#3
allmarktree Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albany, New York Posts: 119	Is that rated? What safety factor is there. I know it is steel core but it looks to be bending on an edge. Not good for rope? What brand is it or is it home made?

13th March 2009, 02:21 PM	#8
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Lanyard Adjustment Itried steel core lines,both shelf bought and homemade,didn't like either one.It gives a false sense of security imo. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

14th March 2009, 02:02 AM	#10
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Lanyard Adjustment On the same not trev,you could also have a careless climber think they are cut proof and he could fall on his a55 because it gave him a false sense of security.i keep a good eye on my flipline while cutting. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

14th March 2009, 02:29 AM	#11
(WLL) Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: pa Posts: 240	Re: Lanyard Adjustment How is it a false sense of security, when you and I both know a chainsaw will buzz right threw the wire core? One should never run a saw without 2 points of attachment!!!Don't ever cut your lanyard, rope or wire. IMO there is no false sense of security when cutting. f.s.o.s is using the cheap crimped junk wire core or thinking its ok to use a nicked rope on a cover dependent line. If it looks, feels, ugly &/or distorted than it is bad. f.s.o.s will kill or hurt, know your gear and know your place. the wire core is called a flip line cause of its stiffness, its not cut resistant. we do not call our rope lanyard a flip line cause it don't flip.

14th March 2009, 03:44 PM	#12
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Lanyard Adjustment Rope lanyards don't flip,you must be using soft rope,i use 3 strand hard lay rope for my lanyards and they flip just as good as wire cores,most people don't get a false sense of security,but there are climbers who think that a wirecore is gonna keep them from falling if a chainsaw cuts it.I personally believe that if one is worried about cutting thier lines with a saw,or isn't paying attention to thier lines,that person shouldn't be climbing and rigging trees. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

15th March 2009, 02:28 AM	#14
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,977	Re: Lanyard Adjustment If you guys like the steel core thats fine use them,i always make sure my flipline is clear when cutting,even on big sticks.It seems to me that most people who cut thier lines are either in a hurry,or they don't pay attention to thier lines position.There would be less accidents cutting lifelines if people would take an extra minute or so,and put thier lines well below where they plan to cut.I'm just as safe on my rope flipline as you are on your steel core. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

15th March 2009, 03:58 AM	#15
(WLL) Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: pa Posts: 240	Re: Lanyard Adjustment i like to take a step up leaving my lanyard on a downward slopping pitch. i spend lot of time splicing my lanyards and spending big money on my maxi flip so i learned to stop cutting them very fast. anymore, my equipment wears out before i destroy it with reckless/poor practice. i started very young and was a good climber by the time i turned 18, to keep things interesting I'm always trying to smooth out my skill and always working on style. i was born with an abnormality which automatically makes me plan ahead, i also dig deep inside my little brain picking everything apart and figuring out why things work the way they do. the doc says i have adhd along with a learning disability, so i thought about that too, and come to the conclusion that i just don't give a rats ass about anything i don't give a rats ass about. i love to climb and take a lil something from everyone, i just cant help myself. over the years i have become a finely tuned climber who just wants more. i enjoy doing hook-less removals to keep me from being board, until something new catches my eye's ill be searching and experimenting with whatever interests me. bring it on tree world

15th March 2009, 05:14 PM	#16
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	Re: Lanyard Adjustment I like your attitude WLL

16th March 2009, 02:04 PM	#18
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,605	Re: Lanyard Adjustment Oh and for the record, i use both steel core or rope lanyards depending on the task at hand Generally, steel for removals - when on spurs working up a trunk up or blocking down i prefer the feel & security of it. For most pruning even with a chainsaw i prefer rope - different positioning and cutting situations, usually extended away from the body and attachments so i dont feel the risk is as high, plus less restricted movement about the canopy.

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