Jim1NZ downunder video, casuarina TD

Ekka · 12th May 2007, 06:45 AM

Brother Colin on the video camera, Jim up the tree, me on the ropes.

We cut down a quad leadered Casuarina in a tight spot and also 3 palms.

7.30mins long and 38mb WMV

Pretty good job and all went smooth. Jim's in the orange top.

www.palmtreeservices.com.au/video/jim1nz.wmv

Fairfield · 12th May 2007, 10:21 AM

sweet job boys, When Colin notched the one by the fence did he cut the sides for a smoother fell?

Ekka · 12th May 2007, 02:40 PM

That was Jim, you never get to see Colin.

Instead of wings cuts we opted for the notch out as the saw only had a 18" bar and that way you'd get a back cut in with one swoop.

Fairfield · 12th May 2007, 02:50 PM

I see, good job guys

JayD · 12th May 2007, 03:57 PM

Nice smooth work men!man that chipper slices N dices those bad boys real good and hats off to the Kanga.

Sean Freeman · 12th May 2007, 04:01 PM

Yep, I second that...great vid Colin, great work Ekka and Jim, glad to see someone else makes jump cuts in the sides too

Not enough guys know how to use the portawrap either, I've seen them put on the stem the wrong way round and the rope loaded all wrong..great work guys

Ekka · 12th May 2007, 04:20 PM

That top Jim bombed off had a fair fall in it and I had a house roof and fence to clear, good roping means watching the tip of that brush ... giving slight resistance to turn it so tips are down then judging the swing and maxing out the run till you just miss everything ............

.......... that's as smooth as she'll ride. Now with a GRCS I would have pulled that slack in on the way down and been able to get it even smoother. On the log we lowered with the GRCS I would have winched it off.

But it does show how smooth the porty can be if the operator knows what he is doing, if the operator doesn't hang on and hold stuff up, doesn't over wrap and wears gloves so heat from letting things run doesn't bother your hands.

On sections that need to run I ensure there's plenty of free rope behind me to slip through my hands. Also, between the porty and I, I have slack, the lowering rope hanging almost to the ground so I know the first say 1m will have no resistance from me just the device.

See diagram, also, dont stand under the load or in swing path of the load ... treat each load as if were to break what would happen. No need for struck by's or flat foot in this job.

JayD · 12th May 2007, 11:39 PM

Good info on lowering technique,but if you dont mind I'd like to add two more small things that are only small but important.

1/ Tie a stopper knot in the end of your lowering rope.
This will give you enough time to deal with what your lowering before you let the rope run thru your hands.

2/Rake the area where your rope is layed out so you can run it smothly.
This will save any twigs comeing up with the rope prematurely braking the load.

Sean Freeman · 12th May 2007, 11:43 PM

Like the raking idea Jay, rope tarp would also achieve the same thing.

TrevMcRev · 14th May 2007, 12:35 AM

Good video, Colin knew when to zoom in for the details then pan out for the action, lots of different angles too.

Smoooth rigging Ekka, love it. Best groundies are usually other climbers, pure groundies that have it totally sussed a few and far between.

Nice climbing by JimNZ too.

My 18" clogs alot on palms but that seemed to eat it up.

Ekka, what sorta $$$ was your grapple?

Ekka · 14th May 2007, 12:39 AM

Around $2K USA, It's a BMG by TNT, bloody ripper mate.

Jim loves it, he gets to stand there and just help stuff a few things between the rollers rather than hump.

That 18" is the 170hp engine I think, biggest engine.

JohN Dee · 14th May 2007, 03:22 AM

Great Video Ekka, Jim and Colin.

Dam your kanga makes it look so easy Ekka. Lol, I noticed on that first palm, when you were bombing the top out, that Jim fell over when he was pulling the line

- it's at 5 mins 11 secs.

We had a job recently where the Casuarina had 5 leaders, there was 3 cocos palms too.. Scary :P Maybe it's great Arborists work alike? Haha.

jim1nz · 14th May 2007, 03:36 AM

Cheers guys, yea i got to say that Kanga of Ekkas is brilliant, takes the sting out of lifting, dragging and chipping!

OsAGe85 · 10th August 2007, 03:22 PM

What kind of notching were you fellas doing on the trunk, when you cut the sides? I've never seen that. Whats the purpose? Great work though. I cant wait to get a ground man to do the lowering for me.

Ekka · 10th August 2007, 09:50 PM

LOL

Look in the videos section and a member called brainfart put up a German video where they are using that technique, no pun intended but they call it the box cut.

Over here we call it the bar was not long enough relief cut.

As Jim was up against a fence a standard felling bore in and go round for a shorter bar wasn't going to happen, easiest way was to take off the sides so the bar was long enough for the fell. I also done this on some bottle bottomed palms coz they get a bulge, neat trick, keep it in mind next time you may have the need for it.

allmarktree · 14th August 2007, 11:07 AM

Eric the only bad thing I saw was the kanga tipping forward. Not eating enough lately?

Really though nice work and video.

Mark

12th May 2007, 06:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,869	Jim1NZ downunder video, casuarina TD Brother Colin on the video camera, Jim up the tree, me on the ropes. We cut down a quad leadered Casuarina in a tight spot and also 3 palms. 7.30mins long and 38mb WMV Pretty good job and all went smooth. Jim's in the orange top. www.palmtreeservices.com.au/video/jim1nz.wmv __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

12th May 2007, 10:21 AM	#2 (permalink)
Fairfield Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bucks county Pa USA Posts: 72	sweet job boys, When Colin notched the one by the fence did he cut the sides for a smoother fell? __________________ Hi yes you know me I am B.A.M.F nice to meet you

12th May 2007, 02:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,869	That was Jim, you never get to see Colin. Instead of wings cuts we opted for the notch out as the saw only had a 18" bar and that way you'd get a back cut in with one swoop. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

12th May 2007, 02:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
Fairfield Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bucks county Pa USA Posts: 72	I see, good job guys __________________ Hi yes you know me I am B.A.M.F nice to meet you

12th May 2007, 03:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
JayD Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 886	Nice smooth work men!man that chipper slices N dices those bad boys real good and hats off to the Kanga. __________________ Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory

12th May 2007, 04:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,645	Yep, I second that...great vid Colin, great work Ekka and Jim, glad to see someone else makes jump cuts in the sides too Not enough guys know how to use the portawrap either, I've seen them put on the stem the wrong way round and the rope loaded all wrong..great work guys __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

12th May 2007, 11:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
JayD Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 886	Good info on lowering technique,but if you dont mind I'd like to add two more small things that are only small but important. 1/ Tie a stopper knot in the end of your lowering rope. This will give you enough time to deal with what your lowering before you let the rope run thru your hands. 2/Rake the area where your rope is layed out so you can run it smothly. This will save any twigs comeing up with the rope prematurely braking the load. __________________ Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory

12th May 2007, 11:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,645	Like the raking idea Jay, rope tarp would also achieve the same thing. __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

14th May 2007, 12:35 AM	#10 (permalink)
TrevMcRev Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 730	Good video, Colin knew when to zoom in for the details then pan out for the action, lots of different angles too. Smoooth rigging Ekka, love it. Best groundies are usually other climbers, pure groundies that have it totally sussed a few and far between. Nice climbing by JimNZ too. My 18" clogs alot on palms but that seemed to eat it up. Ekka, what sorta $$$ was your grapple? __________________ Melbourne Arborist, Total Tree Care, Pruning, Tree and Stump Removal

14th May 2007, 12:39 AM	#11 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,869	Around $2K USA, It's a BMG by TNT, bloody ripper mate. Jim loves it, he gets to stand there and just help stuff a few things between the rollers rather than hump. That 18" is the 170hp engine I think, biggest engine. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

14th May 2007, 03:22 AM	#12 (permalink)
JohN Dee Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 728	Great Video Ekka, Jim and Colin. Dam your kanga makes it look so easy Ekka. Lol, I noticed on that first palm, when you were bombing the top out, that Jim fell over when he was pulling the line - it's at 5 mins 11 secs. We had a job recently where the Casuarina had 5 leaders, there was 3 cocos palms too.. Scary :P Maybe it's great Arborists work alike? Haha. __________________ Climber with slow climbing speed, must make up with mighty chainsaw roar. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Red : Green : Blue

14th May 2007, 03:36 AM	#13 (permalink)
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tauranga, New Zealand Posts: 296	Cheers guys, yea i got to say that Kanga of Ekkas is brilliant, takes the sting out of lifting, dragging and chipping! __________________ SPEED ALWAYS FOLLOWS TECHNIQUE

10th August 2007, 03:22 PM	#14 (permalink)
OsAGe85 Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Littlerock Arkansas US Posts: 66	What kind of notching were you fellas doing on the trunk, when you cut the sides? I've never seen that. Whats the purpose? Great work though. I cant wait to get a ground man to do the lowering for me. __________________ Gotta love the smell 2 stroke and wood chips. Be smart, be safe.

10th August 2007, 09:50 PM	#15 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,869	LOL Look in the videos section and a member called brainfart put up a German video where they are using that technique, no pun intended but they call it the box cut. Over here we call it the bar was not long enough relief cut. As Jim was up against a fence a standard felling bore in and go round for a shorter bar wasn't going to happen, easiest way was to take off the sides so the bar was long enough for the fell. I also done this on some bottle bottomed palms coz they get a bulge, neat trick, keep it in mind next time you may have the need for it. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

14th August 2007, 11:07 AM	#16 (permalink)
allmarktree Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Albany, New York Posts: 132	Eric the only bad thing I saw was the kanga tipping forward. Not eating enough lately? Really though nice work and video. Mark