HELMETCAM:- Gum Tree Demolition

Ekka · 6th May 2008, 02:46 AM

But never ever wrap the rope around your hand or body, also if you are the climber never grip it in your teeth. Some guy lost a gob full of teeth when the rope was yanked quickly.

newguy18 · 6th May 2008, 05:56 AM

i heard a story from clearwater,fla once about a guy redierecting his climbline around his arm while cutting and when the limb fell it caught his rope and dislocated his shoulder.The only time i got teeth on a rope is when adjust my flipline.sometimes it needs to be done.

Ekka · 6th May 2008, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by newguy18

The only time i got teeth on a rope is when adjust my flipline.sometimes it needs to be done.

Sorry, I dont get it, why and how on earth are you using your teeth on a flip line?

newguy18 · 6th May 2008, 08:30 AM

When the adjustment knot[vt or tautline are what i use]gets tight i sometimes have to grab the tail of the flipline with my teeth so both hands can adjust the knot.

Ekka · 6th May 2008, 09:08 AM

Man, just get a Gibbs camming device.

newguy18 · 6th May 2008, 09:34 AM

When i have 63 bucks to spare.

letigre · 7th May 2008, 02:33 AM

ah dude! sounds like your a product of the latest fad. vt is a very good knot, but only under specific circumstances. rope diameters and turns and tresses and such determine the performance of the knot. if you gotta use your teeth to loosen a vt your doing something wrong. i use 10mm beeline (technora fibre) prussick with three turns and four tresses, always criss crossing the ends, on a 12mm samson rope.

gibbs are good but you cant loosen while loaded which is a pain in the arse. having said that i havent bothered to take it off my pole belt!

oh yeah and ekka, like that vid of the ascension methods. liked the look of the gibbs setup. too much gear for me but the idea is good. trunk walking is the only way to fly, gotta save energy anywhere you can. ekka looks like hes perfected energy saving techs

. jokes

newguy18 · 7th May 2008, 05:16 AM

It stays tight when i need to adjust under tension,its on my 45' flipline not my climbline.

letigre · 8th May 2008, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by newguy18

It stays tight when i need to adjust under tension,its on my 45' flipline not my climbline.

what diameters are we talking here? micro pulley back up? prussik cord fibre? all plays a part. you should def be able to make that knot realease under tension.

newguy18 · 8th May 2008, 06:03 AM

the 45'er is 3/4" diameter,my 8'er is 7/16.

letigre · 10th May 2008, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by newguy18

the 45'er is 3/4" diameter,my 8'er is 7/16.

so i spose thats 18mm and 11mm? 18mm is a big line! why do you use such a large line? must be pretty heavy. no wonder its binding up as well. you'd need a 12mm or 1/2' prussick line. is that right? what you running at the moment?

newguy18 · 10th May 2008, 06:19 PM

I think its 10mm.You also gotta take into consideration its a 3 strand.Heres a pic.

letigre · 10th May 2008, 07:10 PM

ah three strand, old school. maybe its a clue to upgrade. try 1/2inch diameter in the mean time. let me know how it goes.

newguy18 · 10th May 2008, 09:29 PM

I like 3 strand lanyards,easier to flip or do the west coast wave on larger trees.It also comes in handy as a short climb line for traversing.

6th May 2008, 02:46 AM	#26 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,669	Re: HELMETCAM:- Gum Tree Demolition But never ever wrap the rope around your hand or body, also if you are the climber never grip it in your teeth. Some guy lost a gob full of teeth when the rope was yanked quickly. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

6th May 2008, 05:56 AM	#27 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,192	Re: HELMETCAM:- Gum Tree Demolition i heard a story from clearwater,fla once about a guy redierecting his climbline around his arm while cutting and when the limb fell it caught his rope and dislocated his shoulder.The only time i got teeth on a rope is when adjust my flipline.sometimes it needs to be done. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

6th May 2008, 08:30 AM	#29 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,192	Re: HELMETCAM:- Gum Tree Demolition When the adjustment knot[vt or tautline are what i use]gets tight i sometimes have to grab the tail of the flipline with my teeth so both hands can adjust the knot. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

6th May 2008, 09:08 AM	#30 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,669	Re: HELMETCAM:- Gum Tree Demolition Man, just get a Gibbs camming device. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

6th May 2008, 09:34 AM	#31 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,192	Re: HELMETCAM:- Gum Tree Demolition When i have 63 bucks to spare. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

7th May 2008, 02:33 AM	#32 (permalink)
letigre Gettin' motoring Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 29	Re: HELMETCAM:- Gum Tree Demolition ah dude! sounds like your a product of the latest fad. vt is a very good knot, but only under specific circumstances. rope diameters and turns and tresses and such determine the performance of the knot. if you gotta use your teeth to loosen a vt your doing something wrong. i use 10mm beeline (technora fibre) prussick with three turns and four tresses, always criss crossing the ends, on a 12mm samson rope. gibbs are good but you cant loosen while loaded which is a pain in the arse. having said that i havent bothered to take it off my pole belt! oh yeah and ekka, like that vid of the ascension methods. liked the look of the gibbs setup. too much gear for me but the idea is good. trunk walking is the only way to fly, gotta save energy anywhere you can. ekka looks like hes perfected energy saving techs. jokes

7th May 2008, 05:16 AM	#33 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,192	Re: HELMETCAM:- Gum Tree Demolition It stays tight when i need to adjust under tension,its on my 45' flipline not my climbline. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

8th May 2008, 06:03 AM	#35 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,192	Re: HELMETCAM:- Gum Tree Demolition the 45'er is 3/4" diameter,my 8'er is 7/16. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

10th May 2008, 06:19 PM	#37 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,192	Re: HELMETCAM:- Gum Tree Demolition I think its 10mm.You also gotta take into consideration its a 3 strand.Heres a pic. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

10th May 2008, 07:10 PM	#38 (permalink)
letigre Gettin' motoring Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 29	Re: HELMETCAM:- Gum Tree Demolition ah three strand, old school. maybe its a clue to upgrade. try 1/2inch diameter in the mean time. let me know how it goes.

10th May 2008, 09:29 PM	#39 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,192	Re: HELMETCAM:- Gum Tree Demolition I like 3 strand lanyards,easier to flip or do the west coast wave on larger trees.It also comes in handy as a short climb line for traversing. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

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