first helmet cam vid

RC1 · 18th December 2007, 12:06 PM

I have wanted a helmet camera for a while now and last week I eventually buckled and paid quite a lot for this one. V.I.O. -- The Leader in Wearable Video Technology, Digital Helmet Cameras and Cam Accessories

Great features, quality footage, robust (shock, dust and water-proof) and not a hindrance to the job or my performance!

Any way, I?m not sure about it now. The end result is all quite bewildering and difficult to watch IMO!

But perhaps with practice, a wider lens, taller tree etc, I?m not sure.

Re: the actual job. Nothing special, just a 25 year old euc in a back garden.

Any credibility that this video might have had is ruined by this particular crew?s refusal to wear their helmets. Also, the grounds-man underestimates/under-wrap?s the very last branch/top which then proceeds to spiral out of control and smash up the clients cherished Japanese maple, which he?d done so well to protect up until that point.

Worth a look but there?s just something frustrating about it.
POV.1 camera. tree felling

JohN Dee · 18th December 2007, 04:05 PM

Great video Reg, I enojoyed watching it all. Everytime I watched you cut where you had your thumb up on the spine of the handle like that I cringed... You think saw kickback hurts? Try getting kickback from a 13hp stumpgrinder with your thumb up top like that... Almost broke my bloody thumb and was aching a for about a month.

With your scarfs, can I ask the reason for the 70*-90* degree cuts compared to the 45*?

Ekka · 18th December 2007, 06:17 PM

Dont the little husky 335 and 338 actually have a built in spot for your thumb right up there? I'm certain they do.

Reg, good video, what was that darker area under the tree? I mean, you lowered those blocks but they just layed there anyway ... couldn't you bomb them off?

Those guys seemed OK, just helmets

Also, I suppose that's one of them pucka lawns you can just fell the barrel on.

The video was OK, what resolution camera did you buy, they list a few for the same model.

Quote:

720x480, 720x400, 640x480, 360x240

Mine is 720 x 580 so I get a little more vertical pixel, the camera lens could be a tad wider but dont go crazy on that, maybe the next one up. Now remember that Google video etc convert that video over to flash.

What type of file did you load to Google and how many mb was it?

It did seem about right to me, maybe try having the camera further back on your helmet. Also, you have to be a little conscious of it being there and not move your head about as quickly, follow things carefully coz unlike our eyes looking in a different direction to our heads the camera looks where your head is pointed.

I think it's OK, it wasn't a sunny day, it was compressed video for Google but should have come up good on ya PC.

Oh, one last thing that's throwing it out for you was your choice of music.

Chucking sound in sort of gives it some life and holds the edits together.

What was up with that euc having all those scars/cankers on the tops of the branches?

windthrown · 18th December 2007, 06:39 PM

Cool photos. Big eucalyptus trees. They do not grow around here, too cold.

Ace Master · 19th December 2007, 02:33 AM

RC1
Great video,

It's interesting to see how other climbers work on the other side of the world
Keep it up,Video some more.....

RC1 · 19th December 2007, 08:27 AM

Thanks guys

JD, I didn?t actually notice the thumb thing but I?m aware that I sometimes take my eye of the ball when the guide-bar length exceeds the width of the piece I?m cutting. It?s a bad old habit but I am making a conscious effort to tighten up on such things.

The scarfs that I am guessing you refer to must be where the rigging point?s were below the sections to be cut. I do this, along with the parallel routing of the lowering line in an attempt to keep the rigging point under maximum compression and minimized side loading. The wide scarf allows the hinge to hang on until the cut-section is almost parallel with the rigging point before it?s released. Not too significant on this particular job, but perhaps a consideration when you?re doing something more critical. You still get a fair wobble up there but that?s more caused by the chunk folding on the hinge as opposed to it being arrested by the rigging

Eric

That was a husky 390 with 28in bar, wonderful saw.

The black area was a shrub-bed, everything had been dug out but the 2 ornamentals (maples) which aren?t very clear on the vid. To bomb the chunks down I?d have had to cut those sections into 3, and then there was always the risk of them bouncing off in the wrong direction. I?m a pretty well practiced rigger so it takes me no time at all to work a trunk the way we did. And besides, I mentioned earlier the groundsman smashed up one of the maples with the last of the rigged foliage so I had to get him straight back up on that horse ? so to speak!

The scars may have been my spike marks.

I had the resolution on the highest setting, its optional so you can easily set the resolution to whatever quality you choose. The high-res does use up more memory and battery though.

The video was set in LAN 768Kbps and just under 100MB.

The original avi version/file was huge but the quality is excellent.

I fully agree with you about a soundtrack but this was more of trial than anything else, I almost didn?t post it at all. I am impressed with the camera though, it?s a real sturdy piece of kit.

Thanks

Reg

Quintrex · 19th December 2007, 11:29 AM

Great first vid Reg, nice work. I thought the rope man did a good job, with the exception of the one faux pas. everything floated down as soft as a fairy's fart!
Thanks,
Steve

JohN Dee · 19th December 2007, 01:23 PM

There you go, you learn something new everyday. I knew that with the wider scarf it takes longer for the hinge to break, but hadn't concieved the thought of it taking alot of shockload out when your rigging pieces like that. I will be using this technique now, for when I have a simililar situation, thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reg

JD, I didn’t actually notice the thumb thing but I’m aware that I sometimes take my eye of the ball when the guide-bar length exceeds the width of the piece I’m cutting. It’s a bad old habit but I am making a conscious effort to tighten up on such things.

It's all good

. At TAFE if they caught anyone sticking their thumb out, they got it painted with pink nail polish. And for the one handers, they had a mit that tied onto the saw and their hand so they couldn't let go of it

.

Keep the videos coming

TrevMcRev · 20th December 2007, 02:02 PM

Good Vid. You need to start throwing stubs at the groundy or come up behind him and clock him on the head with a branch. That wil get em wearing helmets

shaggs · 23rd December 2007, 02:43 AM

RC, great video mate. Not owning a video camera I can't imagine the time it takes you guys to make/edit/post etc....but it really is appreciated.

Nice work and keep 'em coming

RC1 · 24th December 2007, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaggs

RC, great video mate. Not owning a video camera I can't imagine the time it takes you guys to make/edit/post etc....but it really is appreciated.

Nice work and keep 'em coming

Thanks shaggs, thats nice to hear.

You'll have to put a camera on your Christmas list mate, while there's still time

Oldtimer · 25th December 2007, 09:28 AM

Nice video RC1,
Thanks for posting the link.
Scarry stuff for us not being profesional Climbers.

quercus · 25th December 2007, 11:18 AM

Looks like a very solid cam... and a very nicely done job. Very good quality footage...

18th December 2007, 12:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
RC1 Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Macclesfield England Posts: 154	first helmet cam vid I have wanted a helmet camera for a while now and last week I eventually buckled and paid quite a lot for this one. V.I.O. -- The Leader in Wearable Video Technology, Digital Helmet Cameras and Cam Accessories Great features, quality footage, robust (shock, dust and water-proof) and not a hindrance to the job or my performance! Any way, I?m not sure about it now. The end result is all quite bewildering and difficult to watch IMO! But perhaps with practice, a wider lens, taller tree etc, I?m not sure. Re: the actual job. Nothing special, just a 25 year old euc in a back garden. Any credibility that this video might have had is ruined by this particular crew?s refusal to wear their helmets. Also, the grounds-man underestimates/under-wrap?s the very last branch/top which then proceeds to spiral out of control and smash up the clients cherished Japanese maple, which he?d done so well to protect up until that point. Worth a look but there?s just something frustrating about it. POV.1 camera. tree felling

18th December 2007, 04:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
JohN Dee Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 750	Re: first helmet cam vid Great video Reg, I enojoyed watching it all. Everytime I watched you cut where you had your thumb up on the spine of the handle like that I cringed... You think saw kickback hurts? Try getting kickback from a 13hp stumpgrinder with your thumb up top like that... Almost broke my bloody thumb and was aching a for about a month. With your scarfs, can I ask the reason for the 70-90 degree cuts compared to the 45? __________________ Climber with slow climbing speed, must make up with mighty chainsaw roar.* Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Red : Green : Blue

18th December 2007, 06:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
windthrown Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pacific Northwest USA Posts: 127	Re: first helmet cam vid Cool photos. Big eucalyptus trees. They do not grow around here, too cold. __________________ So few saws, so many trees... Stihls: 210/250-/025/290/361/FS85 Echo: CS-3000, Olympyk & Mac doorstops

19th December 2007, 02:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ace Master Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia, Vic, Melbourne Posts: 276	Re: first helmet cam vid RC1 Great video, It's interesting to see how other climbers work on the other side of the world Keep it up,Video some more..... __________________ The Mt Dandenong Ranges Tree Specialists

19th December 2007, 08:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
RC1 Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Macclesfield England Posts: 154	Re: first helmet cam vid Thanks guys JD, I didn?t actually notice the thumb thing but I?m aware that I sometimes take my eye of the ball when the guide-bar length exceeds the width of the piece I?m cutting. It?s a bad old habit but I am making a conscious effort to tighten up on such things. The scarfs that I am guessing you refer to must be where the rigging point?s were below the sections to be cut. I do this, along with the parallel routing of the lowering line in an attempt to keep the rigging point under maximum compression and minimized side loading. The wide scarf allows the hinge to hang on until the cut-section is almost parallel with the rigging point before it?s released. Not too significant on this particular job, but perhaps a consideration when you?re doing something more critical. You still get a fair wobble up there but that?s more caused by the chunk folding on the hinge as opposed to it being arrested by the rigging Eric That was a husky 390 with 28in bar, wonderful saw. The black area was a shrub-bed, everything had been dug out but the 2 ornamentals (maples) which aren?t very clear on the vid. To bomb the chunks down I?d have had to cut those sections into 3, and then there was always the risk of them bouncing off in the wrong direction. I?m a pretty well practiced rigger so it takes me no time at all to work a trunk the way we did. And besides, I mentioned earlier the groundsman smashed up one of the maples with the last of the rigged foliage so I had to get him straight back up on that horse ? so to speak! The scars may have been my spike marks. I had the resolution on the highest setting, its optional so you can easily set the resolution to whatever quality you choose. The high-res does use up more memory and battery though. The video was set in LAN 768Kbps and just under 100MB. The original avi version/file was huge but the quality is excellent. I fully agree with you about a soundtrack but this was more of trial than anything else, I almost didn?t post it at all. I am impressed with the camera though, it?s a real sturdy piece of kit. Thanks Reg

19th December 2007, 11:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
Quintrex Mature tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 462	Re: first helmet cam vid Great first vid Reg, nice work. I thought the rope man did a good job, with the exception of the one faux pas. everything floated down as soft as a fairy's fart! Thanks, Steve

20th December 2007, 02:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
TrevMcRev Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 734	Re: first helmet cam vid Good Vid. You need to start throwing stubs at the groundy or come up behind him and clock him on the head with a branch. That wil get em wearing helmets __________________ Melbourne Arborist, Total Tree Care, Pruning, Tree and Stump Removal

23rd December 2007, 02:43 AM	#10 (permalink)
shaggs Mature tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 462	Re: first helmet cam vid RC, great video mate. Not owning a video camera I can't imagine the time it takes you guys to make/edit/post etc....but it really is appreciated. Nice work and keep 'em coming

25th December 2007, 09:28 AM	#12 (permalink)
Oldtimer Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Austin TX Posts: 64	Re: first helmet cam vid Nice video RC1, Thanks for posting the link. Scarry stuff for us not being profesional Climbers.

25th December 2007, 11:18 AM	#13 (permalink)
quercus Mature tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: belgium Posts: 428	Re: first helmet cam vid Looks like a very solid cam... and a very nicely done job. Very good quality footage...

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