Draw| hook| clipping saw up

Jamie Myers · 7th March 2008, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quercus

Yup done that too... and then the saw flies off even if it doesn't get stuck. So you'd rather unclip it so it can plummit to the ground even if nothing goes wrong, then leave it clipped in and still let it break away when something does go wrong?

hmmmm....

have undone the saw from my belt a few time s never dropped it !!! tried an elastic tool strop didn t like that either. 3 strand rope for me. rarely have i clipped my saw to my harness only jumping from limb to limb but not as often as i get older. lol. proper training to see the danger and avoid problems is the answer

Eric Frei · 8th March 2008, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayD

It's just as simple as the first hook...What else could we do to make this a better tool?
Add your answers here and lets see what we come up with.

That's easy, what stops a hook coming out of a fishes mouth?

Ah HA!

So it drops on easy and lifts on easy without having to open gates like a biner it needs a small barb on the inside. This way if you were to invert or go sideways it wont easily slip out but likely get caught on the barb.

However at the same time if you grab the saw and lift it for use a jiggle etc should get it out no worries. The barb only needs to protrude the thickness of the ring on the lanyard, maybe 6mm will do it, and on a downward angle just like a fishing hook.

Jeff Darby · 8th March 2008, 06:05 PM

I'm loving this,With no trouble at all we have two mods

However this was not what I was thinking about

JayD's, Idea:Secret presently....(John knows but he's keeping it tight presently)
Ekka's, Add a small barb.

Come on have a go, let's see how we can make this ole tool heaps better.Have you observed something while climbing,Something that would help you in control your saw,make it easier to use...more versitile? I challenge you to come forward and add your idea.

George Hayduke · 13th March 2008, 01:14 AM

JayD,

OK...enough time has past...what is your idea?

playfordtree · 13th March 2008, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayD

I'm loving this,With no trouble at all we have two mods

However this was not what I was thinking about

JayD's, Idea:Secret presently....(John knows but he's keeping it tight presently)
Ekka's, Add a small barb.

Come on have a go, let's see how we can make this ole tool heaps better.Have you observed something while climbing,Something that would help you in control your saw,make it easier to use...more versitile? I challenge you to come forward and add your idea.

Either add another hook to the other side of your harness, as John suggested.

Or, somehow mount the hook to the saw and have a big ring mounted on the harness.

Other than those two ideas, i'm fresh out.

Fill us in JD, the suspense is killing me.

jim1nz · 13th March 2008, 12:24 PM

Oi thats a good idea Ekka! Im not down on the hook simply because there is a chance the saw could come out but i think a bit of a blunt barb would be great.

Eric Frei · 13th March 2008, 04:52 PM

Other problems with the hook are ...

1/ The lanyard gets/sits in it, making it hard to drop the ring on when there's the bungee there, so some rubbers on the bungee/strop to keep the ring clear.

2/ sometimes when you pick the saw up the ring goes up the inside of the hook and you aint getting the saw out, so a little vierticle piece down the bottom would prevent that.

That's it, I'm outta ideas for now, spill the beans Dee's

Jeff Darby · 16th March 2008, 07:39 PM

Hi Folks,
When you look at this simple tool it's just that! In saying that how do we mod it/improve some what. Ekka suggested a small hook to stop the saw from falling off, Very basic idea but still a good one so we add a hook.

My idea is also just as simple as the first, We make it out of aluminium, A minor gain but still a gain/mod.
Also I have noticed the the hook could be angled back slightly to give better positioning for the saw as it sits off the harness,This would help keep it more to the side and out of the way.

I hope this helps you blokes and I will be changing John's hook to this shortly and I will post pictures for you all to see.

So you see mods dont have to be Einstien type mods to be good. Simple ideas,The one's that make life a little easier up in the Tree's are are just as good as complex one's.

playfordtree · 17th March 2008, 03:21 PM

Ahhh...

Aluminium, of course.

That would be safer too JD

If a branch or something caught it, it would bend easily instead of ripping the ass out of your saddle.

Therrin · 17th March 2008, 07:18 PM

How 'bout a carbon fibre saw hook, aye?

Jeff Darby · 17th March 2008, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Therrin

How 'bout a carbon fibre saw hook, aye?

Sounds good to me, however I dont know how to work carbon fibre so its one for you Ken, Make one take pictures as you go, add instructions aswell....So we all can have a go! How much do the materials cost? and are they readily availble to Joe Blow?
While were going what about carbon fibre leg irons?

Therrin · 17th March 2008, 09:30 PM

I wasn't sure if you were serious in your redirection or not, but if you are...

I've got a close friend who works for Lockheed Martin, and is in the process of learning how to make parts and tools out of carbon fibre right now. Perhaps I can work out something with him.

George Hayduke · 18th March 2008, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayD

However this was not what I was thinking about

Soooo...quit yacking and tell us what you're thinking about. After all of this I'm betting you have nothing to offer except blather.

Jeff Darby · 18th March 2008, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Hayduke

Soooo...quit yacking and tell us what you're thinking about. After all of this I'm betting you have nothing to offer except blather.

Jeez George,Not nice,If you took the time to read the previous posts you would have seen my ideas, They are simple the same as the rest of the ideas..However they do improve the tool.

Therrin · 18th March 2008, 08:07 PM

Mmmmhmmm, post #38.

Sunraysia Tree Solutions · 22nd November 2009, 09:39 PM

Video link doesn't seem to be working for me, anyone else having problems ?

stirmantrees · 23rd November 2009, 01:57 AM

devo · 29th November 2009, 10:12 PM

Hay There ,

Heres some pics of what we use up here for Chainsaw Hooks , i use the red one the other two are a bit big , The red one is also super lightweight

, As far as Chainsaw Lanyards i use a '' Breakaway lanyard ''

Cheers Steve

8th March 2008, 06:05 PM	#33
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,059	Re: Draw\| hook\| clipping saw up I'm loving this,With no trouble at all we have two modsHowever this was not what I was thinking about JayD's, Idea:Secret presently....(John knows but he's keeping it tight presently) Ekka's, Add a small barb. Come on have a go, let's see how we can make this ole tool heaps better.Have you observed something while climbing,Something that would help you in control your saw,make it easier to use...more versitile? I challenge you to come forward and add your idea. __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

13th March 2008, 01:14 AM	#34
George Hayduke Former Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Slickrock, USA Posts: 87	Re: Draw\| hook\| clipping saw up JayD, OK...enough time has past...what is your idea?

13th March 2008, 12:24 PM	#36
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: International, Germany Posts: 473	Re: Draw\| hook\| clipping saw up Oi thats a good idea Ekka! Im not down on the hook simply because there is a chance the saw could come out but i think a bit of a blunt barb would be great.

13th March 2008, 04:52 PM	#37
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Draw\| hook\| clipping saw up Other problems with the hook are ... 1/ The lanyard gets/sits in it, making it hard to drop the ring on when there's the bungee there, so some rubbers on the bungee/strop to keep the ring clear. 2/ sometimes when you pick the saw up the ring goes up the inside of the hook and you aint getting the saw out, so a little vierticle piece down the bottom would prevent that. That's it, I'm outta ideas for now, spill the beans Dee's __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

17th March 2008, 03:21 PM	#39
playfordtree Mature tree Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Behind Your Sister! Posts: 328	Re: Draw\| hook\| clipping saw up Ahhh... Aluminium, of course. That would be safer too JD If a branch or something caught it, it would bend easily instead of ripping the ass out of your saddle. __________________ Euthanizing South Australian Trees since 2007

16th March 2008, 07:39 PM	#38
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,059	Re: Draw\| hook\| clipping saw up Hi Folks, When you look at this simple tool it's just that! In saying that how do we mod it/improve some what. Ekka suggested a small hook to stop the saw from falling off, Very basic idea but still a good one so we add a hook. My idea is also just as simple as the first, We make it out of aluminium, A minor gain but still a gain/mod. Also I have noticed the the hook could be angled back slightly to give better positioning for the saw as it sits off the harness,This would help keep it more to the side and out of the way. I hope this helps you blokes and I will be changing John's hook to this shortly and I will post pictures for you all to see. So you see mods dont have to be Einstien type mods to be good. Simple ideas,The one's that make life a little easier up in the Tree's are are just as good as complex one's. __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

17th March 2008, 07:18 PM	#40
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,497	Re: Draw\| hook\| clipping saw up How 'bout a carbon fibre saw hook, aye?

17th March 2008, 09:30 PM	#42
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,497	Re: Draw\| hook\| clipping saw up I wasn't sure if you were serious in your redirection or not, but if you are... I've got a close friend who works for Lockheed Martin, and is in the process of learning how to make parts and tools out of carbon fibre right now. Perhaps I can work out something with him.

18th March 2008, 08:07 PM	#45
Therrin Former Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 2,497	Re: Draw\| hook\| clipping saw up Mmmmhmmm, post #38.

22nd November 2009, 09:39 PM	#46
Sunraysia Tree Solutions Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mildura Posts: 117	Re: Draw\| hook\| clipping saw up Video link doesn't seem to be working for me, anyone else having problems ?

23rd November 2009, 01:57 AM	#47
stirmantrees Mature tree Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: oviedo, fl Posts: 469	Re: Draw\| hook\| clipping saw up

29th November 2009, 10:12 PM	#48
devo Sappling Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: germany Posts: 41	Re: Draw\| hook\| clipping saw up Hay There , Heres some pics of what we use up here for Chainsaw Hooks , i use the red one the other two are a bit big , The red one is also super lightweight , As far as Chainsaw Lanyards i use a '' Breakaway lanyard '' Cheers Steve Attached Thumbnails

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