Tree World  


Go Back   Tree World > Tree Work Graphics - Videos and Pictures > The Video Forum


Critique this vid by local company

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 27th February 2010, 10:27 PM   #1
Mature tree
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Seattle, Wa. US of Eh
Posts: 408
Default Critique this vid by local company

See how many safety violations (USA ANSI Z.133 reg's) and rigging gaffs you can find.

Then guess as to how many and what kind of accidents this company has had just in the last month.

rbtree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th February 2010, 01:12 AM   #2
Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist
 
Eric Frei's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 12,820
Default Re: Critique this vid by local company

I'm guessing struck bys for the ground crew.

The first tree Roger, looked like the top was cut off and it sprouted bit of an epicromic the guy went up and lowered off of, is that right? Are those types of pines pretty strong on regrowth like that?
Eric Frei is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th February 2010, 01:28 AM   #3
Mature tree
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Seattle, Wa. US of Eh
Posts: 408
Default Re: Critique this vid by local company

That's a Douglas-fir....super strong, resistant to post topping decay....

That outfit has had three accidents recently. Fairly good young climber, who's worked a bit for me, who needs lots of training, rapped off the end of his rope, fell ~30 feet...lots of trauma....a few days later, some dufus endo'd a log into the side of a house, then a groundie almost got chipped. Pushing material into chipper with foot, it was caught, crushed somewhat and torn off part of a toe....co-worker rushed to reversed feed, saved his life......

I'd posted a tough comment, then, oddly enuf, was on the phone with Oxman, who'd taken flack for his Ekka style video of another company -last November, when my cell rang. Turns out it was the co. owner. I didn't listen to his message till just now.......he pulled my comment and asked me to call him directly. I will...but to repeat my suggestion that he hire my buds with STARRS for personal jobsite training. The local STARRS guy is Dave Stice, who's featured in my "famous" Squeeze Play video.
rbtree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th February 2010, 01:31 AM   #4
Mature tree
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Seattle, Wa. US of Eh
Posts: 408
Default Re: Critique this vid by local company

There's so many cock-ups in that vid, it's pathetic....

Now that others are posting critical comments, he should pull it. He should have known that airing that in public was ridiculous....far worse than videos from others that just have one or two things to criticize...some of mine included.
rbtree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th February 2010, 02:32 AM   #5
Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist
 
Eric Frei's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 12,820
Default Re: Critique this vid by local company

Climber should be tying that block using the cow hitch, I'll post a comment there
Eric Frei is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th February 2010, 10:24 AM   #6
Bayside Tree Care Brisbane
 
Garry Brockley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Brisbane Aus
Posts: 1,649
Default Re: Critique this vid by local company

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ekka View Post
I'm guessing struck bys for the ground crew.

The first tree Roger, looked like the top was cut off and it sprouted bit of an epicromic the guy went up and lowered off of, is that right? Are those types of pines pretty strong on regrowth like that?
I dont see why he climbed onto that epicormic he could have lowered it from the main upright, he seemed tentative around the saw but that could be because of the camera.
where are the groundies helmets? dont you guys wear them on the ground?
other wise it came down safely-ish and didnt break anything, no-one was injured or died at the job so i guess its a good day for them.
__________________
Garry Brockley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28th February 2010, 05:35 PM   #7
Mature tree
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Seattle, Wa. US of Eh
Posts: 408
Default Re: Critique this vid by local company

Galbee, I explained to ekka that new doug fir tops are super strong. (Heck, I'd climb into 3 inch wood on a regrown top if needed.) As well, each top was too bulky to lower whole, given the drop zone.

Ya'll have missed several glaring mistakes.
rbtree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st March 2010, 08:54 AM   #8
Bayside Tree Care Brisbane
 
Garry Brockley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Brisbane Aus
Posts: 1,649
Default Re: Critique this vid by local company

Rb thats not what i was saying, he lowered larger pieces further down and didnt do the same to the top thats all.
__________________
Garry Brockley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st March 2010, 02:37 PM   #9
Semi-mature vigorous tree
 
FlashD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Kansas
Posts: 213
Default Re: Critique this vid by local company

The guys from a STARRS are a good suggestion. I've worked with Greg Lui and Tracy Fitzgerald, both standup guys. I learned so much in a week working with Greg.
FlashD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st March 2010, 03:35 PM   #10
Mature tree
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Seattle, Wa. US of Eh
Posts: 408
Default Re: Critique this vid by local company

Quote:
Originally Posted by Galbee View Post
Rb thats not what i was saying, he lowered larger pieces further down and didnt do the same to the top thats all.
You're forgetting that the top was brushy....didn't ya see the drop zone? It had shrubbery obstacles.

His real mistakes were:

Failure to set the block as close as possible to the cut to be made. The worst section had to freefall at least 8 feet before it came onto the line...and it's center of mass probably fell a good 14 feet. Had the groundies not done a good job of letting the loads run, the forces generated could have been as high as 15,000 lb.
Failure to tie a proper cow hitch, and make it tight.

Placing his single tie in below the sling and above the block, which effectively trapped him until the loads were untied.
rbtree is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st March 2010, 06:48 PM   #11
Bayside Tree Care Brisbane
 
Garry Brockley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Brisbane Aus
Posts: 1,649
Default Re: Critique this vid by local company

They were noticed but i figured he must be a new climber anda novice ground crew those are things that come with experience.
__________________
Garry Brockley is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Local talent Victor Lindsay Picture Forum 6 12th July 2008 10:35 PM
Arbor day at my local arboretum osb_mail Picture Forum 9 11th May 2007 07:37 PM


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 12:28 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Advertising on Treeworld | Your Business Directory
TreeWorld @ 2011