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| Admin - Australia's most prominant Arborist - prev Ekka Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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Large trees in a tight spot get rigged out including all the log. We used the tallest tree as the primary rigging and high point, a total of 4 trunks were lowered out. This was shot 4:3 aspect ratio, if the player defaults to 16:9 etc there's a button in the lower middle controls that changes aspect ratio. If the video shows up with a red play button arrow in the middle just click on it, then it should turn green, just click on it. Confined tree removal | trunk lowering
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| Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Victoria, Australia
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Sweet video, wouldnt mind getting taught by that guy how to climb and rig.
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus
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great video eric is that the climber i met when we done the cabling he knows his stuff
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| Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia
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Great video all around men, just how John and I like them....nice grcs and ascender the right tools matched to the right men and then you have an action packed performing crew. |
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| Admin - Australia's most prominant Arborist - prev Ekka Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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| Nope, it's another named Daniel Lee, very very good, he actually tutors for NMIT with Brett Hamlin up here in Brisbane.
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| Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus
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that explains it, ive seen bret climb hes very smooth and forward thinking
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| Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Yeah I reckon hey dad, sept we never had the luxury of that posh gear , timber hitch slings, oversized porty and an old fasioned prussic.Great video eric, I love confined removals, takes a huge amount of skill to be able to do them fast and confidently compared to any old climber picking big pieces with a crane. That last block was lucky, almost hit the GRCS...
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| Admin - Australia's most prominant Arborist - prev Ekka Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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Nothing happens by chance. That means the straps for the GRCS were rotated so that the ratchet buckles were on the other side. The pulley was 90 degrees offset to the lowering device so rope doesn't get crushed and blocks dont come down on the device. The pulley was always pointing to the safest and most practical position to lower so we could get the blocks over to the tiled area and if something went wrong they weren't on the roof. It was 2004/2005 that Hamlin did my level 3 training and he worked occasionally with us as a contract climber as far back as 1999 to around 2001. In fact it was around October 1998 that I bumped into Brett and asked for some 1 on 1 tutoring. I had a gum tree to cut down but all day to do it, it was a cut and leave so I got Brett in and called it training. Paid Brett for his time whilst we or rather he cut the tree down. We spent some time up the tree first, it was the first time I had climbed a tree properly so I suppose I didn't get the chance to develop bad habits. Paying for tuition and getting a job done at the same time is smart thinking and for the many companies out there it's a viable option to consider. Contract climbers come with their own gear, saws, insurance. Sure you might pay more but generally they do more. That entire job was up there for difficulty and access, no kanga'ing, no dumped logs and felling spars. A large spotty gum out the front to have some limbs off and dead wooded, other trees to go which were lowered onto the roof and cut up, ditched down for chipping. In all the 4 man crew you saw took 15 hours to do that job, that job could easily have doubled out that time with an incompetent crew. The lowering block you saw was 4500KG SWL, the rope was 5/8 Sampson double braid. Method of attaching the lowering block was a cow hitched dead eye sling, blocking saw Daniel was using was a MS660.
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| Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Victoria, Australia
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Damn man, I wanna move up to QLD for training, soo much awesomeness. Ive seen a few good climbers down here but havent really had enough time to learn stuff off them.
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kentucky....oh yeah baby
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Quality video Ekka, just wasn't the same without annoying parrots. ![]() I understand what your saying......pretty dumb if your smashing your stable braid with nearly every chunk when all you have to do is rotate the porty. As for the many steps before ISA credits, well I'm trying to get on with someone but to my surprize it's proved not an easy feat round here at least. |
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| Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bay Area Ca.
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Nice job Ekka! That climber is top notch, makes it look easy. What was the reason for removal? |
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| Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
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I've tried it on 2 different computers and it buffers heaps for me and cant really get through it, hard to follow when it keeps stopping. Even HD on youtube always runs clean for me. Something about megavideo dont like me??? ![]() What i saw looked real good though |
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| Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Victoria, Australia
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Pause it, do something else while it downloads the video. Or just watch it again from the start.
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| Admin - Australia's most prominant Arborist - prev Ekka Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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| The grey gum lost a limb and smashed his roof, in storms grey gums will shed before most others. The silkyoak was half dead (that was the one with the termites nest). The dual leadered gum, he didn't like or want there plus had poor form and vines. Also, there was no VPO's on any of the trees so get in before some tree hugging spastic tells you what you have to keep near your house! So he got rid of what was giving him a lot of anxiety and anguish plus his pool and gutters will be cleaner.The largest eucalyptus out the front (spotty gum) he retained, we pruned some limbs off above the roof and deadwooded. A brushbox closer to the pool we formative pruned and deadwooded. In all seriousness this guy asked my advice and expressed his concerns, I agree with the removal of eucs in such a location, on a steep bank, un-sheltered and remnant, common as hell and no habitat hollows .... get rid of them and move ahead. We also removed a poor formed foambark tree, PITA Tulip tree and 1/2 decayed silkyoak up the other end. I assure you many people who dont have VPO's on their properties worry the council might shove one on and get rid of trees just in case, this is a global phenomia as people fear their right to do as they want will be lost. With some consideration decisions are made and this customer was most balanced in his processes. I draw your attention to a case where doing the right thing for a client ended up in a shit fight. The longer I am in business and see the local councils moving the goal posts around midstream the less I trust them, even today I dealt with another where the guy could have cleared his lot but he lodged a DA and everything is now protected. He could have lodged the DA after he cleared, he would have been OK.
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kentucky....oh yeah baby
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| Could be a lot of reason's Trev. I'll tell you this much assuming it's not a pc issue and your running a G wireless router. A N router will speed you up big time
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| Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
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| I'm on an imac & a macbook. both of a wireless time capsule n router & cable broadband at home, also tried on wireless broadband.
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| Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
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Just tried again and it ran fine........ |
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kentucky....oh yeah baby
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You may want to do a ping test to mega and go from there. May not be issue with you and a problem in the network path to mega....like a overloaded server your routing thru
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| Admin - Australia's most prominant Arborist - prev Ekka Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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That's a great debate. He teaches at TAFE! The risk of an attachment point flipping off the top is far more likely than that of a properly tied lowering block slipping down the trunk. Also it allows one to get a lot closer to the lowering block when cutting the log off. Above or below, good debate. We both agreed on the day that neither of us know of an instance where there's an injury resulted due to being tied in beneath the lowering block. Some opt for one above and one below. There's no law or official YOU MUST reg on this.
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| Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia
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I usually go above due to the fact if the most extreme is going to happen, that sling is going down town baby and I'm going to be pinned. Omg Webbie, you are from Gympie?! The home of Australia's only spinning KFC bucket! Oh and also, Trev, I'm on a Mac and it loaded and played fine. Just ruling the Macs out :P
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| Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Victoria, Australia
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| Admin - Australia's most prominant Arborist - prev Ekka Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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I believe had this guy have tied in above the lowering block he'd be dead now. Hope this wasn't any of you
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| Admin - Australia's most prominant Arborist - prev Ekka Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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I'm just saying it's not a forced, must do, indoctrinated practice.... not busting anyones balls just saying.
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| Sponsor Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
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Long spin the bucket!
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| Sappling Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wayne PA (near Philly)
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Great job on the tree work and the video/production/editing.. The time and energy it takes to make a video like that deserved respect for it is a gift to the industry. Now the youth can go online and see what world class tree work looks like. Juts knowing what can be done opens up a world of possabilities. That wasn't an option when I was learning... I'd like to see online posters (not necessarily here) show a bit more respect for the producers.... Show a little grattitude rather than looking for points of criticism. Everybody has their own style and techniques.. it's one thing to point out glaring errors and safety concerns.. its another to think that the way you do something or were taught etc.. is the right way and any other method has to be wrong (especially from the young and inexperienced)... That said, its a conctructive dialogue about a video can be great learning aid.. So there is a fine line... Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing! |
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| Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indianapolis
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Yaaaa. I second the Murph. The treework was exceptional, but I kept thinking about the video guy, the amount of video that was really shot, and then the amount of work in the edit bay and the paring down to come out with the finished piece which is a highly distilled, all-action piece. No fluff. Great job everyone.
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: California
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Id like to add that the guy running the rope did a pretty damn good job!
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