Chainsaw boot test

nick · 14th January 2008, 10:07 AM

There was an article in one of the arb mags recently about an arborist who cut through to his toes while wearing chainsaw-protective boots - the same boots I wear and provide for my employees.

An advert in the next issue responded to this with reassurance.

Then a friend showed me this video:

YouTube - Chainsaw Boot Test

I think this issue deserves clarification from those in the know.
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Sean Freeman · 14th January 2008, 01:14 PM

Nick thats a very good vid, thankyou for posting it.....remember however that the kevlar (or similar) wadding is only in the tongue of the chainsaw protective boot, so it is possible to cut through the edge of your big toe, of your little toe some way before the sprocket gets clogged. CS protective boots should provide adequate protection in the case of a saw cut as demonstrated in the vid dropped in from above hitting the end of the padded tongue.

In the end as I'm sure you're well aware the best form of protection from injury comes from our work practices not the PPE. Also just as an aside some of the saws we run would go through the steel cap with no bother too!!!

nick · 14th January 2008, 01:18 PM

Sean, you`re dead right - about the safe working bit.

I was just surprised by the difference.

Sean Freeman · 14th January 2008, 01:29 PM

Hmmm.......looks like I might be a little behind the times and have to write a small retraction!!!! All the boots I have ever had any dealings with only had protective chainsaw jamming materials in the tongue...it has been pointed out to me that in fact there are a number of CP boots that have cut resistant materials woven into the sides and back of the boot, also there is an American patent on an internal sock (for want of a better word) woven from kevlar that should when worn inside the boot provide some protection.

Apologies to any boot manufacturers out there for my limited experience of more advanced CP boots.

Therrin · 14th January 2008, 06:22 PM

I use a composite box-toe boot... which, incidentally, doesn't conduct electricity, and doesn't turn your toes ice-cold in the winter time.

I'd have been happier with the videa if the guy who was *trying* to cut the steel toe actually got a little aggressive and made it look like he was *actually* trying to cut the steel toe, instead of limp wristing it and letting it just slide off. Just my take on it.

I agree that PPE only goes so far, the way you work and being aware of the end of your bar are more important. Can't say I've ever nicked my boots before.

Ekka · 16th January 2008, 02:35 AM

I nicked my boot on the steel cap a while ago ... tore the leather that's all, but had to buy new boots eventually as the tear grew and the patch wouldn't stay put.

I dont have protection in the boot though.

Are there any for sale here? Ones we can try on? I haven't found them around these parts.

Quintrex · 16th January 2008, 09:26 PM

I've seen them in the stihl and husky catalogues, but don't know how avavailable they are here.

TREEMONKEY · 17th January 2008, 07:45 PM

Hi i have a pair of royer chainsaw protective boots they are water proof too the top sturdy and the most comfortable boot i have ever war. i do everything but climb with the boots undone they still offer more support then any boot i have ever warn.

http://www.lproyer.com/en/nou_com.asp?annee=2003

i have climbed with the same pair for 3 years and might buy a new pair because my spur strap is starting to get uncomfortable after 2 hrs but was not till the last 3 months and i do a lot of removals.

These boots are expensive about 325$ canadian but worth every cent

newguy18 · 18th January 2008, 10:03 AM

i usually buy bramha boots.25 to 50 bucks a pair with or without steel caps but they usually last me 9 months and it seems no matter what i do my boots catch hell.You can get them at any walmart.

azrael · 18th January 2008, 12:51 PM

"without steel caps"???.....

..........

.........

Youre joking...right?

newguy18 · 18th January 2008, 01:24 PM

I saidthey are avavliable with or without them.I've worn boots with and without steel caps so I'm kinda about even.

Therrin · 18th January 2008, 03:30 PM

Mmmmm.... I love my boots =)

Matterhorn's, 10" upper, 300gram thinsulate lined, composite toe, hand sewn.

I got them while working bodyguarding in chicago and opted for the composite toe to keep my toes from freezing. They fit like a glove...

So far they're right up there in my favorites with my older pair of Danners.

Newguy, I used to wear those Brahma's, from walmart. Only problem is, they assume that if you wear a men's size 15, that your foot is super wide! Which isn't always the case. Finally had to stop wearing them, was like wearing boxes on my feet. Danner's and Matterhorn's are less likes boxes, mmm, more like skiis =)

14th January 2008, 10:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
nick Sappling Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Manchester uk Posts: 11	Chainsaw boot test There was an article in one of the arb mags recently about an arborist who cut through to his toes while wearing chainsaw-protective boots - the same boots I wear and provide for my employees. An advert in the next issue responded to this with reassurance. Then a friend showed me this video: YouTube - Chainsaw Boot Test I think this issue deserves clarification from those in the know. __________________ __________________ Tree Surgeon Manchester

14th January 2008, 01:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,795	Re: Chainsaw boot test Nick thats a very good vid, thankyou for posting it.....remember however that the kevlar (or similar) wadding is only in the tongue of the chainsaw protective boot, so it is possible to cut through the edge of your big toe, of your little toe some way before the sprocket gets clogged. CS protective boots should provide adequate protection in the case of a saw cut as demonstrated in the vid dropped in from above hitting the end of the padded tongue. In the end as I'm sure you're well aware the best form of protection from injury comes from our work practices not the PPE. Also just as an aside some of the saws we run would go through the steel cap with no bother too!!! __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

14th January 2008, 01:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
nick Sappling Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Manchester uk Posts: 11	Re: Chainsaw boot test Sean, you`re dead right - about the safe working bit. I was just surprised by the difference. __________________ Tree Surgeon Manchester Last edited by nick : 14th January 2008 at 03:00 PM. Reason: clarity

14th January 2008, 01:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
Sean Freeman PDF King & Arborist Extrodinaire Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,795	Re: Chainsaw boot test Hmmm.......looks like I might be a little behind the times and have to write a small retraction!!!! All the boots I have ever had any dealings with only had protective chainsaw jamming materials in the tongue...it has been pointed out to me that in fact there are a number of CP boots that have cut resistant materials woven into the sides and back of the boot, also there is an American patent on an internal sock (for want of a better word) woven from kevlar that should when worn inside the boot provide some protection. Apologies to any boot manufacturers out there for my limited experience of more advanced CP boots. __________________ Sean Trees are poems that earth writes upon the sky, We fell them down and turn them into paper, That we may record our emptiness. - Kahlil Gibran

14th January 2008, 06:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,348	Re: Chainsaw boot test I use a composite box-toe boot... which, incidentally, doesn't conduct electricity, and doesn't turn your toes ice-cold in the winter time. I'd have been happier with the videa if the guy who was trying to cut the steel toe actually got a little aggressive and made it look like he was actually trying to cut the steel toe, instead of limp wristing it and letting it just slide off. Just my take on it. I agree that PPE only goes so far, the way you work and being aware of the end of your bar are more important. Can't say I've ever nicked my boots before. __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

16th January 2008, 02:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
Ekka Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 8,009	Re: Chainsaw boot test I nicked my boot on the steel cap a while ago ... tore the leather that's all, but had to buy new boots eventually as the tear grew and the patch wouldn't stay put. I dont have protection in the boot though. Are there any for sale here? Ones we can try on? I haven't found them around these parts. __________________ Tree World Legal Fighting Fund\| Protect Your Rights to Freedom Of Speech\| Pledge Today Tree World Picture Competition\| $300 of Prizes Up for Grabs Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

16th January 2008, 09:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
Quintrex Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 538	Re: Chainsaw boot test I've seen them in the stihl and husky catalogues, but don't know how avavailable they are here. __________________ Heightmaster

17th January 2008, 07:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
TREEMONKEY Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: ONTARIO, CANADA Posts: 96	Re: Chainsaw boot test Hi i have a pair of royer chainsaw protective boots they are water proof too the top sturdy and the most comfortable boot i have ever war. i do everything but climb with the boots undone they still offer more support then any boot i have ever warn. http://www.lproyer.com/en/nou_com.asp?annee=2003 i have climbed with the same pair for 3 years and might buy a new pair because my spur strap is starting to get uncomfortable after 2 hrs but was not till the last 3 months and i do a lot of removals. These boots are expensive about 325$ canadian but worth every cent

18th January 2008, 10:03 AM	#9 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Dead twig Florida. Posts: 3,400	Re: Chainsaw boot test i usually buy bramha boots.25 to 50 bucks a pair with or without steel caps but they usually last me 9 months and it seems no matter what i do my boots catch hell.You can get them at any walmart. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

18th January 2008, 12:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
azrael Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Earth Australia Posts: 315	Re: Chainsaw boot test "without steel caps"???........................ Youre joking...right?

18th January 2008, 01:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Dead twig Florida. Posts: 3,400	Re: Chainsaw boot test I saidthey are avavliable with or without them.I've worn boots with and without steel caps so I'm kinda about even. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

18th January 2008, 03:30 PM	#12 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,348	Re: Chainsaw boot test Mmmmm.... I love my boots =) Matterhorn's, 10" upper, 300gram thinsulate lined, composite toe, hand sewn. I got them while working bodyguarding in chicago and opted for the composite toe to keep my toes from freezing. They fit like a glove... So far they're right up there in my favorites with my older pair of Danners. Newguy, I used to wear those Brahma's, from walmart. Only problem is, they assume that if you wear a men's size 15, that your foot is super wide! Which isn't always the case. Finally had to stop wearing them, was like wearing boxes on my feet. Danner's and Matterhorn's are less likes boxes, mmm, more like skiis =) __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

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