Bandit 18" intimidator

Ekka · 28th June 2007, 02:47 AM

Around 3mins and 15mb WMV

www.treeworld.info/video/bandit.wmv

TrevMcRev · 28th June 2007, 06:02 AM

Watching that compared to my BC1800:

THe infeed chute looks tiny
you need and extra man just to operate the lift & crush like all bigger bandits
When undoing the winch that guys hands were awful close and it looked to be feeding forward
down here that wouldve made some nice firewood
did it pull out of the bog hole alright!

Juno · 28th June 2007, 09:29 AM

I agree with TrevRev. It's a nice peace of machineri with the winch that's really good. But Is that machine save to work with. Here in the Netherlands there have to be a bar around. I you fall, if you get stuck in the branches you kan push that bar and it will stop de machine. Is it on that machine to??
And if you got in to troble how do you stop it than?

Ekka · 28th June 2007, 12:34 PM

Personally, I think the Vermeer 18" 170hp beats it.

The lower feed table seems easier for winch and kanga etc but is an unusual height for tripping.

The Vermeer auto feeds better to and the revs stay up better on the machine. I also think the horizontal feed rollers of the Vermeer are easier to feed.

Streyken · 28th June 2007, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

I also think the horizontal feed rollers of the Vermeer are easier to feed.

(I think you meant vertical.)

True, but I prefer the horizontal hydraulic lift. I've heard when you feed a fork through it's possible to have it flip and catch under your arm with the vertical feed. Here in BC, it was a vertical Vermeer that ate the guy in 2005. He had 2 days experience.

Ekka · 28th June 2007, 08:25 PM

Oh yes, vertical.

The lift and crush is a good feature, especially vine covered crap.

TrevMcRev · 29th June 2007, 03:41 AM

I think the vertical feed wheels work far better. They seem to take everything easier without the need for lift & crush, unfortunately this includes people

Seriously, the wheels just easily open up even for the biggest of stuff you will put in there, it takes it all effortlessly. Takes alot more and maintains RPM longer before auto feed kicks in too.

In my experience i find it to spin branches less so than other machines ive worked with that had conventional feedwheel setups.

When i demo'd both before buying the vermeer, while operating the bandit all i could think about was the extra man needed to operate the machine on top of those needed to feed it. That man is gonna cost ya 1/2 as much as the machine again every year!

TreeCo · 29th June 2007, 03:58 AM

That Intimidator looks to have a much smaller infeed chute and feed rollers than the one I had.

Was it an early model?

Ekka · 29th June 2007, 04:09 AM

That's one is like 2 months old, 80 hours on it.

Vermeers have big openings, that looks a genuine 18"

At arborcamp they had a chip off, 18" vermeer vs bandit.

Vermeer won, was fastest and sprayed chip furthest.

The guy in the video had a bc1400 and it was such a POS he went off Vermeer back to Bandit with whom he had a 12" for years before the Vermeer.

Time will tell too, I known this guy a while now so we'll see how this one holds up.

TrevMcRev · 29th June 2007, 04:21 AM

Yeah ive heard of some issues with the 10 & 14" vermeers and in that range i'd choose a Bandit 9 or 12".

But the Vermeer 18" is a ripper i reckon. That said, my little bandit 6" was a grouse bit o gear, done heaps of work for me, flogged it for 5 years and no real dramas other than the electric ignition unit.

Here she is:

JohN Dee · 1st July 2007, 07:49 PM

The bandit chippers never really caught my attention, on the other hand - their remote controlled stump grinder 2800/2900 turns me on, talk about a bludge.

Damn Trev, you got lots of toys

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TrevMcRev · 2nd July 2007, 02:52 AM

Ah i sold off the small truck and bandit about a year after getting the bigger truck and chipper. Ran 2 crews plus a stump outfit and salesman(8+me) for a while but didnt have the best people at the time & decided it was easier to run 1 solid crew with the right people & bigger equipment at 100% than 2 under performing crews. Theres times i wish i kept that lil' set up instead, times i wish i had it as well as, and times i'd be happy with the ol ute n trailer! Big equipment means big turnover is required before big profit!
Big turnover = big headaches!
Big turmover + quality arb services is hard without council contracts and they are monopolized down here.
Big turnover is easy if you dont care how you treat trees or people.

I lurve treez

a_lopa · 2nd July 2007, 03:14 AM

There a good thing them 65s

Im hearing you on all the above Trev!

Get a good day of removals and your glad you have the guys and chipper to handle it,seems everyone down the city has an 18"

OsAGe85 · 10th August 2007, 04:33 PM

Vermeer makes a way better chipper. The motor seems stronger on the Vermeer and someone doesnt have to operate the handle/feeder. Like you said Ekka the Vermeer seems to have better feed and the RPM stayed consistant. My pop and I had a bc1250a and that thing rocked if it wasnt for the restrictions and safety we probably could of put much bigger logs in that sucker.

Husky man · 21st December 2007, 01:53 AM

Nicely done mate what type of saw were you using.

Ekka · 22nd December 2007, 03:00 AM

Stihl ms660

shaggs · 22nd December 2007, 03:04 PM

What hp was that machine???
It did seem to take a bit to get the revs back up!

28th June 2007, 02:47 AM	#1 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,869	Bandit 18" intimidator Around 3mins and 15mb WMV www.treeworld.info/video/bandit.wmv __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

28th June 2007, 06:02 AM	#2 (permalink)
TrevMcRev Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 730	Watching that compared to my BC1800: THe infeed chute looks tiny you need and extra man just to operate the lift & crush like all bigger bandits When undoing the winch that guys hands were awful close and it looked to be feeding forward down here that wouldve made some nice firewood did it pull out of the bog hole alright! __________________ Melbourne Arborist, Total Tree Care, Pruning, Tree and Stump Removal

28th June 2007, 12:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,869	Personally, I think the Vermeer 18" 170hp beats it. The lower feed table seems easier for winch and kanga etc but is an unusual height for tripping. The Vermeer auto feeds better to and the revs stay up better on the machine. I also think the horizontal feed rollers of the Vermeer are easier to feed. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

28th June 2007, 08:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,869	Oh yes, vertical. The lift and crush is a good feature, especially vine covered crap. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

29th June 2007, 03:41 AM	#7 (permalink)
TrevMcRev Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 730	I think the vertical feed wheels work far better. They seem to take *everything* easier without the need for lift & crush, unfortunately this includes people Seriously, the wheels just easily open up even for the biggest of stuff you will put in there, it takes it all effortlessly. Takes alot more and maintains RPM longer before auto feed kicks in too. In my experience i find it to spin branches less so than other machines ive worked with that had conventional feedwheel setups. When i demo'd both before buying the vermeer, while operating the bandit all i could think about was the extra man needed to *operate* the machine on top of those needed to feed it. That man is gonna cost ya 1/2 as much as the machine again *every* year! __________________ Melbourne Arborist, Total Tree Care, Pruning, Tree and Stump Removal

28th June 2007, 09:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
Juno Sappling Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 29	I agree with TrevRev. It's a nice peace of machineri with the winch that's really good. But Is that machine save to work with. Here in the Netherlands there have to be a bar around. I you fall, if you get stuck in the branches you kan push that bar and it will stop de machine. Is it on that machine to?? And if you got in to troble how do you stop it than?

29th June 2007, 03:58 AM	#8 (permalink)
TreeCo Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 262	That Intimidator looks to have a much smaller infeed chute and feed rollers than the one I had. Was it an early model?

29th June 2007, 04:09 AM	#9 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,869	That's one is like 2 months old, 80 hours on it. Vermeers have big openings, that looks a genuine 18" At arborcamp they had a chip off, 18" vermeer vs bandit. Vermeer won, was fastest and sprayed chip furthest. The guy in the video had a bc1400 and it was such a POS he went off Vermeer back to Bandit with whom he had a 12" for years before the Vermeer. Time will tell too, I known this guy a while now so we'll see how this one holds up. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

1st July 2007, 07:49 PM	#11 (permalink)
JohN Dee Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 728	The bandit chippers never really caught my attention, on the other hand - their remote controlled stump grinder 2800/2900 turns me on, talk about a bludge. Damn Trev, you got lots of toys . __________________ Climber with slow climbing speed, must make up with mighty chainsaw roar. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Red : Green : Blue

2nd July 2007, 02:52 AM	#12 (permalink)
TrevMcRev Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 730	Ah i sold off the small truck and bandit about a year after getting the bigger truck and chipper. Ran 2 crews plus a stump outfit and salesman(8+me) for a while but didnt have the best people at the time & decided it was easier to run 1 solid crew with the right people & bigger equipment at 100% than 2 under performing crews. Theres times i wish i kept that lil' set up instead, times i wish i had it as well as, and times i'd be happy with the ol ute n trailer! Big equipment means big turnover is required before big profit! Big turnover = big headaches! Big turmover + quality arb services is hard without council contracts and they are monopolized down here. Big turnover is easy if you dont care how you treat trees or people. I lurve treez __________________ Melbourne Arborist, Total Tree Care, Pruning, Tree and Stump Removal

2nd July 2007, 03:14 AM	#13 (permalink)
a_lopa Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drouin Posts: 866	There a good thing them 65s Im hearing you on all the above Trev! Get a good day of removals and your glad you have the guys and chipper to handle it,seems everyone down the city has an 18" __________________ Free Tree Industry Link Directory Drouin tree lopping, land clearing and stump removals

10th August 2007, 04:33 PM	#14 (permalink)
OsAGe85 Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Littlerock Arkansas US Posts: 66	Vermeer makes a way better chipper. The motor seems stronger on the Vermeer and someone doesnt have to operate the handle/feeder. Like you said Ekka the Vermeer seems to have better feed and the RPM stayed consistant. My pop and I had a bc1250a and that thing rocked if it wasnt for the restrictions and safety we probably could of put much bigger logs in that sucker. __________________ Gotta love the smell 2 stroke and wood chips. Be smart, be safe.

21st December 2007, 01:53 AM	#15 (permalink)
Husky man Sappling Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bulli N.S.W Posts: 20	Re: Bandit 18" intimidator Nicely done mate what type of saw were you using.

22nd December 2007, 03:00 AM	#16 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,869	Re: Bandit 18" intimidator Stihl ms660 __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

22nd December 2007, 03:04 PM	#17 (permalink)
shaggs Mature tree Join Date: May 2007 Location: sydney Posts: 462	Re: Bandit 18" intimidator What hp was that machine??? It did seem to take a bit to get the revs back up!