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Old 30th January 2008, 02:23 PM   #1
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This is to cool not to share.I'm sure it will get picked to bits but i see nothing wrong with the techniques in this video.
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Old 30th January 2008, 02:50 PM   #2
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Nothing extreme about that job, could even let everything fall
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Old 30th January 2008, 03:07 PM   #3
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i'm not trying to start a fight with you but how is that not extreme?the condition of those trees,setting the tie -ins and the fact that hes 58 and still doing it.I was extremely impressed anyway.
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Old 30th January 2008, 04:24 PM   #4
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Having 2 secure tie ins lined up with your work point is very handy.

Climbing those 2 pines ... easier than say a tree with no branches for 120' etc.

Impressive yes, extreme nope.

Extreme was McMahon's video doing that skywalk dead tree in Tasmania.

Tahune Day 3........
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Old 30th January 2008, 05:46 PM   #5
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Nice video, I must say. But like Ekka said. Nothing extreme about the job, though....Common practice when felling dead trees.
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Old 30th January 2008, 05:53 PM   #6
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I thought he got the job done pretty damn good,Apart from a little one handed work and a couple of sus cuts he acomplished what he set out to do as safe as he could..Impresive,But I agree with Ekka, Tahune was extreme and not many climbers would have done that..That was a monster.and the fact he was 48 makes it more impresive.
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Old 30th January 2008, 06:04 PM   #7
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I didn't see that video of Tahune 'till now. That's indeed an extreme job. I would have done it though... But it would have been my masterpiece so far. And it would have cost the customer a small fortune.

Out here we don't have trees that big. Sad, actually...
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Old 30th January 2008, 09:41 PM   #8
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Newguy,

It's an interesting way of doing it. I think that using a setup like that puts a bit of stress on the climb lines though, as forces get multiplied at those obtuse angles.

Looked at one point when he was starting at the top of the first tree that he was using the bar to leverage the almost-cut block off of the top. I wouldn't do that with my saw...<shrug> Bit of one handing too, considering that yes, he is clipped into the dead one, and all it takes is him coming back and accidentally clipping his climb lines to drop him outta the sky. He was lined up several times where a kickback would have done it. Also was droppin blocks off both directions, all over the place.

He says, "that does it, short enough to fall" but still tall enough to hit the house. If I were up there I'd have probably gone down a little further since I'm already there.
Looked like he's skilled enough though, knows what he's doing.
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Old 30th January 2008, 11:56 PM   #9
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Nice video, I must say. But like Ekka said. Nothing extreme about the job, though....Common practice when felling dead trees.
I'll have to remember that the next time i'm in a dead tree then.Until jerry's video thats the first time i've seen it done.Therrin he has almost 40 years worth.I'd take his advice over any book anyday.
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Here's some more extreme ....

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http://www.palmtreeservices.com.au/v...collection.wmv

Newguy, it's also common to rig similar, like off a Tyrolean Bridge. And McMahon has rigged similar with two different coloured ropes where he directs via headcoms the forces on ropes so the block levitates off the stump, up, then sideways, then to the ground.
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The removal isn't jerry but he filmed it.
I'm also gonna post his 3 part summary on the redwood forest in one of the redwood threads.
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Here's some more extreme ....

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http://www.palmtreeservices.com.au/v...collection.wmv

Newguy, it's also common to rig similar, like off a Tyrolean Bridge. And McMahon has rigged similar with two different coloured ropes where he directs via headcoms the forces on ropes so the block levitates off the stump, up, then sideways, then to the ground.
here we go again. like to see this one. hope its not to much but if you dont stop me i will continue to let you know when i cant watch something.
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Old 21st October 2009, 01:05 PM   #13
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Right now, I'm just wondering if any of you guys know who the guy in Newguy's video was? That's Gerry Beranek. He's the writer of countless big timber felling books, the Working Climber video series, and one of the tree men in the "150' up and still 7' in diameter" posters. I'm not saying that justifies one handing a saw or that it makes his video any more extreme... just saying the man is a legend in the USA.

Just saying...
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here we go again. like to see this one. hope its not to much but if you dont stop me i will continue to let you know when i cant watch something.
I loaded it up, should be ready to go.

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Right now, I'm just wondering if any of you guys know who the guy in Newguy's video was? That's Gerry Beranek. He's the writer of countless big timber felling books, the Working Climber video series, and one of the tree men in the "150' up and still 7' in diameter" posters. I'm not saying that justifies one handing a saw or that it makes his video any more extreme... just saying the man is a legend in the USA.

Just saying...
We know, we also know that drop starting, chain brakes off and one handing is common practice even amongst the most seasoned veterans.
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Old 24th October 2009, 08:45 PM   #15
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i could watch that tahnue vid everyday ! , amazing skills those mcmahons have !

when removing dead trees i always have a tie in , in a tree behind or next to me when possible , never had to use two tie ins like that but its a nice technique .

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