2 tie point dead removal

newguy18 · 29th January 2008, 08:23 PM

This is to cool not to share.I'm sure it will get picked to bits but i see nothing wrong with the techniques in this video.
YouTube - Two Tie-in Points for Hazardous Removals

Ekka · 29th January 2008, 08:50 PM

Nothing extreme about that job, could even let everything fall

newguy18 · 29th January 2008, 09:07 PM

i'm not trying to start a fight with you but how is that not extreme?the condition of those trees,setting the tie -ins and the fact that hes 58 and still doing it.I was extremely impressed anyway.

Ekka · 29th January 2008, 10:24 PM

Having 2 secure tie ins lined up with your work point is very handy.

Climbing those 2 pines ... easier than say a tree with no branches for 120' etc.

Impressive yes, extreme nope.

Extreme was McMahon's video doing that skywalk dead tree in Tasmania.

Tahune Day 3........

quercus · 29th January 2008, 11:46 PM

Nice video, I must say. But like Ekka said. Nothing extreme about the job, though....Common practice when felling dead trees.

JayD · 29th January 2008, 11:53 PM

I thought he got the job done pretty damn good,Apart from a little one handed work and a couple of sus cuts he acomplished what he set out to do as safe as he could..Impresive,But I agree with Ekka, Tahune was extreme and not many climbers would have done that..That was a monster.and the fact he was 58 makes it more impresive.

quercus · 30th January 2008, 12:04 AM

I didn't see that video of Tahune 'till now. That's indeed an extreme job. I would have done it though... But it would have been my masterpiece so far. And it would have cost the customer a small fortune.

Out here we don't have trees that big. Sad, actually...

Therrin · 30th January 2008, 03:41 AM

Newguy,

It's an interesting way of doing it. I think that using a setup like that puts a bit of stress on the climb lines though, as forces get multiplied at those obtuse angles.

Looked at one point when he was starting at the top of the first tree that he was using the bar to leverage the almost-cut block off of the top. I wouldn't do that with my saw...<shrug> Bit of one handing too, considering that yes, he is clipped into the dead one, and all it takes is him coming back and accidentally clipping his climb lines to drop him outta the sky. He was lined up several times where a kickback would have done it. Also was droppin blocks off both directions, all over the place.

He says, "that does it, short enough to fall" but still tall enough to hit the house. If I were up there I'd have probably gone down a little further since I'm already there.
Looked like he's skilled enough though, knows what he's doing.

newguy18 · 30th January 2008, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quercus

Nice video, I must say. But like Ekka said. Nothing extreme about the job, though....Common practice when felling dead trees.

I'll have to remember that the next time i'm in a dead tree then.Until jerry's video thats the first time i've seen it done.Therrin he has almost 40 years worth.I'd take his advice over any book anyday.

Ekka · 30th January 2008, 03:00 PM

Here's some more extreme ....

5mb WMV

http://www.palmtreeservices.com.au/v...collection.wmv

Newguy, it's also common to rig similar, like off a Tyrolean Bridge. And McMahon has rigged similar with two different coloured ropes where he directs via headcoms the forces on ropes so the block levitates off the stump, up, then sideways, then to the ground.

newguy18 · 30th January 2008, 03:09 PM

The removal isn't jerry but he filmed it.
YouTube - One Valley Oak 38 Cuts
I'm also gonna post his 3 part summary on the redwood forest in one of the redwood threads.

29th January 2008, 08:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,679	2 tie point dead removal This is to cool not to share.I'm sure it will get picked to bits but i see nothing wrong with the techniques in this video. YouTube - Two Tie-in Points for Hazardous Removals __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related Last edited by Ekka : 29th January 2008 at 08:53 PM. Reason: ammended title from "now this guy is extreme": to current

29th January 2008, 08:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,932	2 tie point dead removal Nothing extreme about that job, could even let everything fall __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

29th January 2008, 09:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,679	Re: 2 tie point dead removal i'm not trying to start a fight with you but how is that not extreme?the condition of those trees,setting the tie -ins and the fact that hes 58 and still doing it.I was extremely impressed anyway. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

29th January 2008, 10:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,932	Re: 2 tie point dead removal Having 2 secure tie ins lined up with your work point is very handy. Climbing those 2 pines ... easier than say a tree with no branches for 120' etc. Impressive yes, extreme nope. Extreme was McMahon's video doing that skywalk dead tree in Tasmania. Tahune Day 3........ __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

29th January 2008, 11:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
quercus Mature tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: belgium Posts: 428	Re: 2 tie point dead removal Nice video, I must say. But like Ekka said. Nothing extreme about the job, though....Common practice when felling dead trees.

29th January 2008, 11:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
JayD Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 941	Re: 2 tie point dead removal I thought he got the job done pretty damn good,Apart from a little one handed work and a couple of sus cuts he acomplished what he set out to do as safe as he could..Impresive,But I agree with Ekka, Tahune was extreme and not many climbers would have done that..That was a monster.and the fact he was 58 makes it more impresive. __________________ Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory

30th January 2008, 12:04 AM	#7 (permalink)
quercus Mature tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: belgium Posts: 428	Re: 2 tie point dead removal I didn't see that video of Tahune 'till now. That's indeed an extreme job. I would have done it though... But it would have been my masterpiece so far. And it would have cost the customer a small fortune. Out here we don't have trees that big. Sad, actually...

30th January 2008, 03:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,273	Re: 2 tie point dead removal Newguy, It's an interesting way of doing it. I think that using a setup like that puts a bit of stress on the climb lines though, as forces get multiplied at those obtuse angles. Looked at one point when he was starting at the top of the first tree that he was using the bar to leverage the almost-cut block off of the top. I wouldn't do that with my saw...<shrug> Bit of one handing too, considering that yes, he is clipped into the dead one, and all it takes is him coming back and accidentally clipping his climb lines to drop him outta the sky. He was lined up several times where a kickback would have done it. Also was droppin blocks off both directions, all over the place. He says, "that does it, short enough to fall" but still tall enough to hit the house. If I were up there I'd have probably gone down a little further since I'm already there. Looked like he's skilled enough though, knows what he's doing. __________________ Ken Fessia I.T.S.A. Tree Service (661) 916-4703

30th January 2008, 03:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 6,932	Re: 2 tie point dead removal Here's some more extreme .... 5mb WMV http://www.palmtreeservices.com.au/v...collection.wmv Newguy, it's also common to rig similar, like off a Tyrolean Bridge. And McMahon has rigged similar with two different coloured ropes where he directs via headcoms the forces on ropes so the block levitates off the stump, up, then sideways, then to the ground. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

30th January 2008, 03:09 PM	#11 (permalink)
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,679	Re: 2 tie point dead removal The removal isn't jerry but he filmed it. YouTube - One Valley Oak 38 Cuts I'm also gonna post his 3 part summary on the redwood forest in one of the redwood threads. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

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