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2nd January 2008, 05:22 PM
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| I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Hilton Head
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|  Re: Welcome ..... Indeed we do have some nice Magnolia's around here. Notably however, they all seem to have scale problems and some also have a twig girdler issue. Handsome trees overall. |
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7th January 2008, 03:38 AM
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| Admin - Dip Arb & Hort  Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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| Re: Welcome ..... Hi Liz,  Are you in the business or interested as a home-owner like many people are?
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7th January 2008, 08:11 PM
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| Sappling Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubuque Ia
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| Re: Welcome ..... Hey there all from Dubuque Iowa, USA. I am in the utility line clearance end of the business. Been working for the past 4 years and love it. I have seen and learned alot from reading and watching experences from others in the tree biz. I hope to learn more from all. I am a climber/foreman working transmission lines. Again hello  |
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7th January 2008, 08:36 PM
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| Sappling Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sydney, N.SW
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7th January 2008, 11:31 PM
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| Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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| Re: Welcome ..... Quote:
Now you'd have to have some stories with 4 years in that job. Can you give me some insights ... for pruning do you climb with or without spurs? And for take downs do you climb with or without spurs? And of course welcome.
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8th January 2008, 05:38 AM
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| Part of the Furniture  Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Dead twig Florida.
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| Re: Welcome ..... welcome dave and liz.Hey dave does a guy who works around service drops actually need to be certified line clearance?
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8th January 2008, 02:26 PM
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| Sappling Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubuque Ia
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| Re: Welcome ..... Hey thanks for the wlcome all. Ekka I have much from your vids on other sites. Then I found this site. Haven't looked around much but I am in the process. As to your questions on spikes. It depends on the circumstances. Like I said, I work transmission lines. Out in the bounies we climb with spikes. Private work some with or without. Depends on the customer. I know this is dangerous ground for spikers. There is technique to useing gaffs. As to minimize damage to the tree..I say go up like a cat, out like a squirle, down like a spider. In utility work it is saftey, quality, quantity. You can get safety, and quality spikeless. But you wont get quantity. As for service drops. In our area it is up to the home owner to take care of them. You have to be certified an insured to cut with in 10 ft. of primary lines. Service wires sould be handled with care by a professional. When asked, I tell home owner to hire a professional tree service. Most of the time they ask if I would do it." Sorry I cant, but here is a card of someone who can."  |
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8th January 2008, 06:49 PM
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| Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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| Re: Welcome ..... Fair enough, over here where I am the power company is responsible to the first point of contact within the property. So on a normal house it's to the roof/meterbox etc but out rural it's the first pole inside the boundary. Some energy companies mandate spurless climbing for all tree work, yes even TD's if the tree is within the close approach distance to the wires. They believe that the spurs would mean if you got energized it would complete the circuit and blow ya feet off. Pretty tough going for climber especially blocking down trunks spurless.
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8th January 2008, 07:25 PM
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| Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Dead twig Florida.
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| Re: Welcome ..... how do you do a spurless removal?
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8th January 2008, 10:10 PM
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| Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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| Re: Welcome ..... Leave stubs and have foot loops, crazy on big trees!
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8th January 2008, 10:36 PM
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| The Tree World Bandit  Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca
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| Re: Welcome ..... Wow, that sounds nuts! It actually sounds more dangerous. I was gonna say "Ca is picky, but thankfully not *that* picky"... however, is there actually some foundation to what they claim with that?
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8th January 2008, 10:58 PM
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| Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney
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| Re: Welcome ..... Energex in SE Qld even require climbers to use a friction hitch, no metal ascenders, to reduce electrical hazard. They dont make you use a plastic saw yet!
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9th January 2008, 09:14 AM
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| Sappling Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: florida
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| Re: Welcome ..... Hi ekka, I could solve your problem, but I figured I would give you this so you could calc it yourself, because not every tree has the same lean or weight. Assumptions: Tree is hinged at ground level, it has been cut off! Let T = tension in rope in pounds W = weight of tree in pounds H = distance from hinge (ground) to where rope is tied to tree as measured along the tree Theta = angle between tree and ground alpha = angle between rope and tree L = distance from ground to the center of gravity as measured along the tree, this is the point where a cable attached to the tree could lift it in a balanced position???????? Sum torques about the hinge (butt of tree) T = L*W*cos(theta)/( H*sin(alpha)) Checks: IF theta = 90 degrees the tree will fall over Thus T=0 IF alpha= 90 degrees the tension is a minimum The larger H the smaller the tension Hope this helps, Chris- so just use this equation T = L*W*cos(theta)/( H*sin(alpha)) |
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