Tree Machine ... Jim Clark, inventor and ahead of his time

Tree Machine · 8th May 2007, 06:56 AM

Yea, but the unicender, a good device, is an entirely different animal. It would deserve it's own thread. There should be no comparing of the two. A new piece needs to stand on its own merit.

Now, if we all do this together, do a collective summative calling I really think Dr. Storrick would like to be in on this. After the hundreds and hundreds of hours he's devoted to sourcing out every available descent device on planet earth, to be in on the collaborative creating of a piece that has not even been created, nor sits in his collection yet is conglomerated from part sof the pieces that ARE in his collection, man, I just see him being offended by not being invited and included. Storrick has a place here, he is like a Poobah, y'know, the illustrious magistrate of mechanical pieces.

I'll drop another e-mail.....

Dr Storrick, click, click, the gang is beginning to think I'm full of crap. I'm treading water here, the time has come to spill da beans. Come in Dr. Gary,

Click, click......

Ekka · 8th May 2007, 01:50 PM

He has joined Jim, and is the 200th member of Tree World.

So now it's time to spill the beans and start thinking.

gdstorrick · 8th May 2007, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Hayduke

Gary is busy with his own life and unlikely to even know about this place.

Hi George, don't underestimate the TreeGuy's ability to write an irresistible invitation.

Tho everyone: I collect certain SRT equipment and use my web site to share my evaluations and one-sided ego-maniacal opinions with the world. As you know if you've studied my site, I'm a caver first and climber second, and not an arborist at all. Our needs are not the same (in fact, caver and climber needs are almost entirely different, contrary to what outsiders my think). If my site has helped arborists, (1) great, and (2) I'm amazed, since I don't know the first thing about tree work.

That said, I think I know a little bit about equipment, having tried more than one or two (perhaps 990), and I'd be glad to share my ideas and experiences with people. If we come up with a new idea, I'll probably build a prototype in my garage and test it.

----> Gary

George Hayduke · 8th May 2007, 02:35 PM

So...now Gary knows about the discussion. Good to have your ear Gary. I've learned a lot after reading all of your site. Yes...all of the descripitions of the tools.

Now there is no reason that Jim can hold back. Since you've spent so much time thinking about this tool share what you have and let the rest of the design team help modify it. I'd bet that someone here is handy with a CAD program and might even be able to conjure up a working model to look at.

Write out the problems that you think need solutions and then share the solutions that you've figured out.

Tree Machine · 8th May 2007, 06:03 PM

Just hold on a minute.

I think its prudent to ascertain that this IS the true Dr Gary Storrick.

I would like to ask THREE security questions from angles that if you are not Dr Storrick, you will ineveitably miss at least two of the three.

First Question; You have your doctorate, yes? What is the title of your Doctoral Dissertation?

Second question; Where is the National Speleological Association annual convention being held this 2007 year?

and Third question; I went caving last weekend, it was my first time dropping one of these. What did I drop, Dr Gary?

The correct three answers will authenticate you. Miss one, and we out you as a troll.

George Hayduke · 9th May 2007, 02:10 PM

TM...you're dodging my questions...

How much bigger audience do you need?

gdstorrick · 9th May 2007, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tree Machine

Just hold on a minute.

I think its prudent to ascertain that this IS the true Dr Gary Storrick.

I would like to ask THREE security questions from angles that if you are not Dr Storrick, you will ineveitably miss at least two of the three.

First Question; You have your doctorate, yes? What is the title of your Doctoral Dissertation?

Second question; Where is the National Speleological Association annual convention being held this 2007 year?

and Third question; I went caving last weekend, it was my first time dropping one of these. What did I drop, Dr Gary?

The correct three answers will authenticate you. Miss one, and we out you as a troll.

This is for humor's sake, I'm sure. You see, I don't know if I am really me - but this lady who claims to be my mother assures me that I am.

Anyone can find the title of my Dissertation on my web site. I had to look it up myself: THERMOREMANENT BEHAVIOR OF SMALL MULTIDOMAIN SYNTHETIC MAGNETITES. In English, this means, "Gary need to get a life."

The 2007 National Speleological Society convention will be in Marengo Indiana. I'll be there with most of my collection on display.

Your answer to #3 is, "a pit." I've gotten lazy lately, the last pit I did had 240 feet of water in it. I was breathing trimix, not air.

Enough fun & games (until next time <grin>). Let us go design something for my collection (scratch that, I mean, for arborists to use.)

----> Gary

PS: You reversed the order of the second and third questions.

George Hayduke · 9th May 2007, 06:44 PM

Is it speleo-speak to say 'I dropped a pit' to mean in the outside world 'I dropped into a pit' ? In outside-speak I would have expected to hear that TM dropped a piece of gear or something.

I'm still not convinced that this is really GS. Over many years I've emailed him a few times. This delivery doesn't ring true to me...call my skeptical.

Tree Machine · 9th May 2007, 08:13 PM

Mates, he got all three questions correct, and corrected NSA to NSS.
He's the real deal.

My Arborist friends of the World,

Dr Gary Storrick

We're not worthy!

/

Tree Machine · 9th May 2007, 08:32 PM

Wow, Dr Gary. Thank you for coming in. I'm not sure what to say.... except to reply to you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Storrick

Let us go design something for my collection

Did I hear that right? You're asking US to design a piece of gear that doesn't exist, so we can add it to your collection.

My goodness. This is like, friction nirvana.

I can't help but feel we are edge of something significant, like get Hayduke from breathin down my neck.

Just Joking.

Hayduke, I gotta acknowledge you for calling me out on this. Nobody's ever shown such an interest. You're the fourth in 5 years of anyone who's even asked me (Mike Maas, TreeCo, Ekka and you), but YOU, George Hayduke, have been persistent. You've outted me as one of the few professional tree climbers who doesn't use friction hitches, and you wanna know how I do it.

Thank you for asking.

I say let's get on with it. Since this is a concept device we plan to design and build for Dr. Storrick's collection, we should call the thread Dr. Storrick's New Tree Device. Who's gonna start it?

Tree Machine · 9th May 2007, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Gary

THERMOREMANENT BEHAVIOR OF SMALL MULTIDOMAIN SYNTHETIC MAGNETITES.

So you are a geek? We like geeks, even though we're more like Jocks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Gary

Your answer to #3 is, "a pit."

Yes', I dropped my first pit. I've been in hundreds of caves, but always with Elizabeth; she doesn't do vertical, even though I've got her her own custom vertical rig, a modified frog.

This has been a running joke over the years with my fellow grotto members. I've done thousands upon thousands of ascents on rope, but never one in a cave. Elizabeth was doing stuff for her volunteer activites for the upcoming NSS convention. That left me to go on a trip without her, so I picked the first pit trip and have now formally crossed that threshold.

I tell you this, Dr Storrick, because you know, as a caver, your first pit is like your first love; you never forget it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Gary

The 2007 National Speleological Society convention will be in Marengo Indiana. I'll be there with most of my collection on display.

Did I hear you right? You will BE at convention? With your collection on display? Whaa, huh???

My head is spinning. I must go breath deep, please excuse me.

Tree Machine · 9th May 2007, 09:13 PM

....I'm coming around......

Tree Machine · 9th May 2007, 09:14 PM

not yet...

Tree Machine · 9th May 2007, 09:26 PM

Are you SURE you said you would be going to the NSS Convention in Marengo, Indiana? Man, I was just there in Marengo three days ago, that's where I dropped this pit. It was called the King Leo Pit, after the pit was nearly four hours of classic wild cave of southern Indiana, a very challenging one, Elizabeth would have hated it. Anyway, I may be leading this trip at NSS, it's part of the reason I was down caving last weekend was in part a logistics weekend with all the NSS planners.

Also I went to inspect the tree recovery from really bad storm that hit there three years ago.

And you'll be there this Summer?????

Cool!

Ekka · 10th May 2007, 06:04 AM

New thread for inventing devices here

Dr Storricks new tree devices

gdstorrick · 10th May 2007, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tree Machine

Mates, he got all three questions correct, and corrected NSA to NSS.
He's the real deal.

My Arborist friends of the World,

Dr Gary Storrick

We're not worthy!

/

OK, let's get real now. I'm just a dude that likes to hang around on rope and do a few other things. Call me Gary.

----> Gary

.... and no need to bow, all I did was spend my money on gear....

CU all in the new thread...

8th May 2007, 01:50 PM	#127 (permalink)
Ekka Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 7,508	He has joined Jim, and is the 200th member of Tree World. So now it's time to spill the beans and start thinking. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

10th May 2007, 06:04 AM	#140 (permalink)
Ekka Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 7,508	New thread for inventing devices here Dr Storricks new tree devices __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

8th May 2007, 06:56 AM	#126 (permalink)
Tree Machine Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 569	Yea, but the unicender, a good device, is an entirely different animal. It would deserve it's own thread. There should be no comparing of the two. A new piece needs to stand on its own merit. Now, if we all do this together, do a collective summative calling I really think Dr. Storrick would like to be in on this. After the hundreds and hundreds of hours he's devoted to sourcing out every available descent device on planet earth, to be in on the collaborative creating of a piece that has not even been created, nor sits in his collection yet is conglomerated from part sof the pieces that ARE in his collection, man, I just see him being offended by not being invited and included. Storrick has a place here, he is like a Poobah, y'know, the illustrious magistrate of mechanical pieces. I'll drop another e-mail..... Dr Storrick, click, click, the gang is beginning to think I'm full of crap. I'm treading water here, the time has come to spill da beans. Come in Dr. Gary, Click, click......

8th May 2007, 02:35 PM	#129 (permalink)
George Hayduke Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Slickrock, USA Posts: 92	So...now Gary knows about the discussion. Good to have your ear Gary. I've learned a lot after reading all of your site. Yes...all of the descripitions of the tools. Now there is no reason that Jim can hold back. Since you've spent so much time thinking about this tool share what you have and let the rest of the design team help modify it. I'd bet that someone here is handy with a CAD program and might even be able to conjure up a working model to look at. Write out the problems that you think need solutions and then share the solutions that you've figured out.

8th May 2007, 06:03 PM	#130 (permalink)
Tree Machine Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 569	Just hold on a minute. I think its prudent to ascertain that this IS the true Dr Gary Storrick. I would like to ask THREE security questions from angles that if you are not Dr Storrick, you will ineveitably miss at least two of the three. First Question; You have your doctorate, yes? What is the title of your Doctoral Dissertation? Second question; Where is the National Speleological Association annual convention being held this 2007 year? and Third question; I went caving last weekend, it was my first time dropping one of these. What did I drop, Dr Gary? The correct three answers will authenticate you. Miss one, and we out you as a troll.

9th May 2007, 02:10 PM	#131 (permalink)
George Hayduke Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Slickrock, USA Posts: 92	TM...you're dodging my questions... How much bigger audience do you need?

9th May 2007, 06:44 PM	#133 (permalink)
George Hayduke Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Slickrock, USA Posts: 92	Is it speleo-speak to say 'I dropped a pit' to mean in the outside world 'I dropped into a pit' ? In outside-speak I would have expected to hear that TM dropped a piece of gear or something. I'm still not convinced that this is really GS. Over many years I've emailed him a few times. This delivery doesn't ring true to me...call my skeptical.

9th May 2007, 08:13 PM	#134 (permalink)
Tree Machine Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 569	Mates, he got all three questions correct, and corrected NSA to NSS. He's the real deal. My Arborist friends of the World, Dr Gary Storrick We're not worthy! /

9th May 2007, 09:13 PM	#137 (permalink)
Tree Machine Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 569	....I'm coming around......

9th May 2007, 09:14 PM	#138 (permalink)
Tree Machine Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 569	not yet...