Tree Machine ... Jim Clark, inventor and ahead of his time

Tree Machine · 23rd April 2007, 07:02 AM

By the way, having AUSSIES tell me I'm crazy, now gentlemen, that is the highest form of compliment I can imagine.

Ekka · 23rd April 2007, 02:07 PM

I got sound and no picture Jim, checked a few things, viewed your other video to make sure.

No picture for me.

See, this .mov Quicktime stuff is a PITA!

Tree Machine · 23rd April 2007, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohN Dee

With the Quicktime issue Trev it's more then likely due to the fact that it was made & programmed on a Mac >.<, so expect a few hickups loading it onto Windows

The time-lapse stuff, the camera formats it into a Quicktime format. The live video, yea, that's Mac.

My video guy can take my stuff and format it into .wmv for me, but it costs me $75 an hour.

TrevMcRev, are you able to open the files since loading Quicktime 7.1 for PC? It's cool they still let you download that for free.

I have what's called Quicktime Pro, which for $30 extra allows you to control more of the video clip, run it backwards and forwards, control the audio portion, add music.

Hey, I haven't given you a video with music yet.... here's a tall locust takedown. This was my very first time-lapse ever, I stumbled across the function one day, and tried it out the next.

This video is the next day. I ascend up, bomb a few limbs, realize I need my pole pruners, drop out, get them, go back up. Lop a few more limbs then begin working the pole pruners. From the ground, the 14,000 V lines didn't look that bad, but from up there, oh my gawd. They were wayyy out over the lines.

I nit picked it down, whittling it down to where the pole pruner would no longer fit the limb, then some creative rigging and Silky cutting. I'm not remembering how exactly I did it, but it took about an hour, just the pole-pruning and technical hairy cuts. And there was a storm blowing in, there were tornado watches out that day. It was a very, very excellent day. Watch the clouds. Just as I got past the crux and I was home-free, I started cutting down the trunk, the batteries on the camera ran out. This video has really nice clarity, though, and is one of my favorites. And music.

Tree Machine · 23rd April 2007, 08:22 PM

Here is another test video. It's actually a slideshow, I biggerized the screen and elevated the volume with CD quality sound. Turn your volume up!

It's just a test video, a bunch of Silky Saws. The guitar work is to be appreciated. Here's the folding saw slideshow.

Please let me know if these are not opening for you.

Tree Machine · 23rd April 2007, 08:53 PM

OK, I just stumbled onto a new function. This test is two videos, the first raw, off the camera. The second, is the same video, with music. In putting the video together with the music, you can make the music as long as the video, or the video as long as the music. What is about a six second clip is stretched out, the frame rate slowed so that the six second video will fit into 30 seconds of blazing drum solo amidst Santana's ripping guitar.

Wow, so THAT'S how to slow down a time-lapse to really slow.

You guys teach me all kinds of cool things.

Raw time-lapse

Santana time lapse

It's really important that we can all open these, so everyone's included.

Ekka · 2nd May 2007, 09:54 PM

First one wouldn't open in the Big Q

But the bottom one did, however no sound.

I did manage to open the Top video with windows viewer but was dodgey.

Conclusion, the Big Q sucks!

I can convert to something more universally accepted, even divX if you like, mpeg1, mpeg3, mpeg4, wmv etc.

My pic camera also rolls out .mov mpeg4 I just convert it over to mpeg2

TrevMcRev · 3rd May 2007, 03:12 AM

Jim my laptop will play your stuff after reloading quicktime but my pc still wont so im sure its just a dicky setting on my pc thats stopping it.

The way im set up now MOST of the time im on here its from the lappy,

but..........

Not this time, so i just missed ya new stuff for now

Tree Machine · 3rd May 2007, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrevMcRev

Jim my laptop will play your stuff after reloading quicktime but my pc still wont so im sure its just a dicky setting on my pc thats stopping it.

No, it's more about Bill Gates not wanting to play fair.

Quicktime is an excellent platform, superior overall from what little I understand, compresses well and something about resolution.

I really don't care which format or codec is used, as long as we all can see it. I will not exclude anyone because their computer can't talk to mine. We'll figure out some other way.

My video guy could take edited video and convert it for me, but at $75 an hour and a lot of extra time for Tree Machine. My stuff isn't that important that I wanna get into a lot of expense, and Elizabeth is not gonna let me buy a PC just so I can chit chat with you guys. Hmmmmm.

Ekka · 3rd May 2007, 05:56 AM

Get this product, it's what I use.

http://www.avsmedia.com/VideoTools/index.aspx#quiz01

So far you haven't beaten it yet!

What I do is convert everything to mpeg2 or avi, from there it's like moulding butter.

TrevMcRev · 4th May 2007, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ekka

First one wouldn't open in the Big Q

But the bottom one did, however no sound.

I did manage to open the Top video with windows viewer but was dodgey.

Conclusion, the Big Q sucks!

I can convert to something more universally accepted, even divX if you like, mpeg1, mpeg3, mpeg4, wmv etc.

My pic camera also rolls out .mov mpeg4 I just convert it over to mpeg2

Opened up on the lappy at the moment, came back to this thread and bugger me, identical to what happened to ekka.

For the 2nd one it wanted me to buy the song from itunes, hence the no sound.

Ekka · 4th May 2007, 01:14 AM

Damn that stuff, you want to watcha video and ya get all this mumbo jumbo in ya face like just nick off and play the darn the video, sheeesh, dont they know about Limewire or something!

Tree Machine · 4th May 2007, 10:13 AM

No worries. I'll figure something out.

That sucks that if I incorporate a song I bought from iTunes, they then want YOU to buy the song before it can be listened to along with the video.

Bugga!

Well, at least this is good to know. I've got an answer...... Instead of music, I could sing. Or record my voice onto whatever it is we're looking at. Or go to my CD rack and find something. Still, Quicktime is pitched as this universal platform, PC and Mac friendly. It is not seeming so friendly at the moment.

Let me try a couple different things. So far whatever you've looked at (or tried to look at) is stuff already created. The next piece I'll format in Mpeg4. I'm fairly green to all this and am still climbing the learning curve, so your patience is much appreciated.

Ekka · 4th May 2007, 02:38 PM

Tree Machine, get Limewire and your music from there, put that on your videos .... free.

Hey TM

How old were ya in this pic?

George Hayduke · 7th May 2007, 07:47 PM

That Unicender looks like a nice ride. This thread goes into a lot of detail. More than just the TTT homepage:

http://tinyurl.com/35ssoc

TM...

Why not share your ideas and climbing techniques? Think about what happened when the peanut butter idea was shared. That started a whole avalanche of reactions.

There are few things that you can give away and still own. Knowledge is one.

Love is another

Unfortunately...STDs are another

If your ideas have merit, they'll walk on their own. If not, they'll be sliced and diced in public.

Spill the beans

Tree Machine · 7th May 2007, 09:41 PM

Thanks, George. You are so right.

But first, that picture that Ekka posted, that's not me. That is Jerilyn. Who came all the way up from Costa Rica to visit. She's a raft guide and wild adventure woman. She and I trained together in 1990 for an adventure race, the Raid Gauloises. We mountain biked in some extreme and remote places and did major hikes in the mountains together. And made love a lot.

She contacted me in 2000 because she was then working with resort hotels on the coast in keeping their staffs trained in various aspects of grounds management. She told me that trees overgrowing their desired size, namely the ones whose growth has taken them out over pools, the Costa Ricans would shinny up there with a machete (no rope, no safety gear) and whack at the tree until the offensive limb ends up in the pool. Not acceptable says the hotel owners. The also want their grounds staff to be safe, to not get hurt and sue them.

Jerilyn called me up to assist in this dilemma. I told her, "Come on up to Indianapolis. We'll have coffee."

She took me literally and came up, so we went tree climbing together for a week. We'd rock out a solid day and then Elizabeth would take her out shopping.

The picture is Jeri hauling back on the BigShot. We climbed that day in the rain. It was just like old times.

23rd April 2007, 02:07 PM	#102 (permalink)
Ekka Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 7,730	I got sound and no picture Jim, checked a few things, viewed your other video to make sure. No picture for me. See, this .mov Quicktime stuff is a PITA! __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

2nd May 2007, 09:54 PM	#106 (permalink)
Ekka Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 7,730	First one wouldn't open in the Big Q But the bottom one did, however no sound. I did manage to open the Top video with windows viewer but was dodgey. Conclusion, the Big Q sucks! I can convert to something more universally accepted, even divX if you like, mpeg1, mpeg3, mpeg4, wmv etc. My pic camera also rolls out .mov mpeg4 I just convert it over to mpeg2 __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

3rd May 2007, 03:12 AM	#107 (permalink)
TrevMcRev Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 793	Jim my laptop will play your stuff after reloading quicktime but my pc still wont so im sure its just a dicky setting on my pc thats stopping it. The way im set up now MOST of the time im on here its from the lappy, but.......... Not this time, so i just missed ya new stuff for now __________________ Total Tree Care- Melbourne Arborist Reports & Consulting,Tree Pruning & Removal www.treegear.com.au Tree Climbing Gear, Arborist Supplies

3rd May 2007, 05:56 AM	#109 (permalink)
Ekka Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 7,730	Get this product, it's what I use. http://www.avsmedia.com/VideoTools/index.aspx#quiz01 So far you haven't beaten it yet! What I do is convert everything to mpeg2 or avi, from there it's like moulding butter. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

4th May 2007, 01:14 AM	#111 (permalink)
Ekka Admin - Dip Arb & Hort Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 7,730	Damn that stuff, you want to watcha video and ya get all this mumbo jumbo in ya face like just nick off and play the darn the video, sheeesh, dont they know about Limewire or something! __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding and Stump Removal Brisbane Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations, Developer, Tree and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

23rd April 2007, 07:02 AM	#101 (permalink)
Tree Machine Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 569	By the way, having AUSSIES tell me I'm crazy, now gentlemen, that is the highest form of compliment I can imagine.

23rd April 2007, 08:22 PM	#104 (permalink)
Tree Machine Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 569	Here is another test video. It's actually a slideshow, I biggerized the screen and elevated the volume with CD quality sound. Turn your volume up! It's just a test video, a bunch of Silky Saws. The guitar work is to be appreciated. Here's the folding saw slideshow. Please let me know if these are not opening for you.

23rd April 2007, 08:53 PM	#105 (permalink)
Tree Machine Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 569	OK, I just stumbled onto a new function. This test is two videos, the first raw, off the camera. The second, is the same video, with music. In putting the video together with the music, you can make the music as long as the video, or the video as long as the music. What is about a six second clip is stretched out, the frame rate slowed so that the six second video will fit into 30 seconds of blazing drum solo amidst Santana's ripping guitar. Wow, so THAT'S how to slow down a time-lapse to really slow. You guys teach me all kinds of cool things. Raw time-lapse Santana time lapse It's really important that we can all open these, so everyone's included.

4th May 2007, 10:13 AM	#112 (permalink)
Tree Machine Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 569	No worries. I'll figure something out. That sucks that if I incorporate a song I bought from iTunes, they then want YOU to buy the song before it can be listened to along with the video. Bugga! Well, at least this is good to know. I've got an answer...... Instead of music, I could sing. Or record my voice onto whatever it is we're looking at. Or go to my CD rack and find something. Still, Quicktime is pitched as this universal platform, PC and Mac friendly. It is not seeming so friendly at the moment. Let me try a couple different things. So far whatever you've looked at (or tried to look at) is stuff already created. The next piece I'll format in Mpeg4. I'm fairly green to all this and am still climbing the learning curve, so your patience is much appreciated.

7th May 2007, 07:47 PM	#114 (permalink)
George Hayduke Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Slickrock, USA Posts: 92	That Unicender looks like a nice ride. This thread goes into a lot of detail. More than just the TTT homepage: http://tinyurl.com/35ssoc TM... Why not share your ideas and climbing techniques? Think about what happened when the peanut butter idea was shared. That started a whole avalanche of reactions. There are few things that you can give away and still own. Knowledge is one. Love is another Unfortunately...STDs are another If your ideas have merit, they'll walk on their own. If not, they'll be sliced and diced in public. Spill the beans

7th May 2007, 09:41 PM	#115 (permalink)
Tree Machine Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 569	Thanks, George. You are so right. But first, that picture that Ekka posted, that's not me. That is Jerilyn. Who came all the way up from Costa Rica to visit. She's a raft guide and wild adventure woman. She and I trained together in 1990 for an adventure race, the Raid Gauloises. We mountain biked in some extreme and remote places and did major hikes in the mountains together. And made love a lot. She contacted me in 2000 because she was then working with resort hotels on the coast in keeping their staffs trained in various aspects of grounds management. She told me that trees overgrowing their desired size, namely the ones whose growth has taken them out over pools, the Costa Ricans would shinny up there with a machete (no rope, no safety gear) and whack at the tree until the offensive limb ends up in the pool. Not acceptable says the hotel owners. The also want their grounds staff to be safe, to not get hurt and sue them. Jerilyn called me up to assist in this dilemma. I told her, "Come on up to Indianapolis. We'll have coffee." She took me literally and came up, so we went tree climbing together for a week. We'd rock out a solid day and then Elizabeth would take her out shopping. The picture is Jeri hauling back on the BigShot. We climbed that day in the rain. It was just like old times.