Transition Period

Ekka · 23rd February 2008, 03:18 AM

Just a short note to let you know we are in a transition period that has taken some time to come about.

We are moving hosts and domain name registrars. It has taken a month of persistent emails to have the current host of the site unlock the domain name for transfer freeing us of any handcuffs they held.

I have chosen to have a registrar independent of hosting meaning we are totally free and not bound to any host.

A new host has been acquired and hopefully they do a better job, if they dont it's nice to know we have control of the domain and can go anywhere at any time.

During this transition period if the site goes down please be patient and do keep trying. Domain name registrars need to know who the host is and point the servers in the right direction. It could occur where that information is in "limbo" if the old registrar cuts us off and the new one doesn't have the domain details.

This is all for our benefit, to be free, independent and able to choose hosts. If performance of the site is lacking and support poor we can easily move about the net with new hosts, no more handcuffs.

Again, please be tolerant and patient, this process can take up to 7 days for domain name transfer and another couple of days on top of that for hosting transfer.

clementine · 27th February 2008, 02:19 AM

Is it over yet?

I haven't noticed much.

. .

Ekka · 27th February 2008, 03:01 AM

Not yet, the next 48 hours are the deadliest!

Thanks for reminding me to back up!

Ekka · 1st March 2008, 02:06 PM

OK, seems all good for stage 1

The registrar has been changed to one here in Oz, I just repointed the dns settings, lets see how we run now for a few days.

Ekka · 1st March 2008, 02:12 PM

Seems to be running a lot faster to me, that's funny, same host and stuff but they didn't have any dns pointing.

Can you guys comment here on any changes in speed you notice.

newguy18 · 1st March 2008, 02:26 PM

it slowed down by about a second here but that don't bother me.

DBS · 3rd March 2008, 05:06 AM

Also i have not received a thread update notice in days...

would anything that was done on server end effect thread subscriptions?

NG... i still have your CD on my desk staring me in the face every morning!!

i will get it out.. if you still need/want it.

-Daryl

Also posting this reply took longer than it used to but that could be User end not server end...

newguy18 · 3rd March 2008, 06:52 AM

Sure i still want it.If you still need my mailing info pm me.

Ekka · 4th March 2008, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBS

Also i have not received a thread update notice in days...

would anything that was done on server end effect thread subscriptions?

NG... i still have your CD on my desk staring me in the face every morning!!

i will get it out.. if you still need/want it.

-Daryl

Also posting this reply took longer than it used to but that could be User end not server end...

Nah, it's the server we're on, time to change hosts now but that could mean a board shut down till all files are transfered.

Time to do it I think.

azrael · 5th March 2008, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBS

Also i have not received a thread update notice in days...
would anything that was done on server end effect thread subscriptions?
-Daryl

I have not been receiving PM notifications ... I just found new PM's when I went in to read an old message.

Is this only me or is it the same for everyone?

Azrael

Ekka · 5th March 2008, 12:20 PM

Next move is changing hosts, I'll keep you updated.

It takes time to download 1.6gig of files etc and then load them up to another server.

In that period of time if the board is open all new members and posts wont be transfered so a shut down will be neccessary. We're trying to figure out the best time to do it.

DBS · 5th March 2008, 01:48 PM

Eric,

Does your forum software allow you to make backups?

Is it possible to make a backup, then upload the backup, make the new host live, then all that remains is updating the new host with the small amount of updating since the initial backup was uploaded, hence reducing downtime?

-Daryl

Ekka · 5th March 2008, 01:52 PM

We have attachments in the file system and data in the sql, both have to go together.

It's the time taken to pull it down and load it up that is the problem. 1.6gig takes a while for me, maybe 10 hours one way.

DBS · 5th March 2008, 01:56 PM

dam!

what kinda connection do you use? how fast is your upload?

heres a cool chart to estimate transfer speeds.

How long does it take?

-Daryl

Therrin · 5th March 2008, 01:57 PM

From the time I click "post reply" it's still taking about 20 - 30 seconds to actually upload my post and change the screen.

I haven't noticed any difference at all, if anything I thought it got worse??

sorry....

Ekka · 5th March 2008, 01:59 PM

Yeah Therrin, I just moved the registrar but now we have to move hosts.

DBS, my speed is 512/512 but I run at around 420 due to distance from exchange.

DBS · 5th March 2008, 02:08 PM

Eric...

man am i spoiled...

here is my providers specs.. Optimum online

-Daryl

23rd February 2008, 03:18 AM	#1 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,673	Transition Period Just a short note to let you know we are in a transition period that has taken some time to come about. We are moving hosts and domain name registrars. It has taken a month of persistent emails to have the current host of the site unlock the domain name for transfer freeing us of any handcuffs they held. I have chosen to have a registrar independent of hosting meaning we are totally free and not bound to any host. A new host has been acquired and hopefully they do a better job, if they dont it's nice to know we have control of the domain and can go anywhere at any time. During this transition period if the site goes down please be patient and do keep trying. Domain name registrars need to know who the host is and point the servers in the right direction. It could occur where that information is in "limbo" if the old registrar cuts us off and the new one doesn't have the domain details. This is all for our benefit, to be free, independent and able to choose hosts. If performance of the site is lacking and support poor we can easily move about the net with new hosts, no more handcuffs. Again, please be tolerant and patient, this process can take up to 7 days for domain name transfer and another couple of days on top of that for hosting transfer. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

27th February 2008, 02:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
clementine Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Central Portugal Posts: 252	Re: Transition Period Is it over yet? I haven't noticed much. . . __________________ Meddle not in the affairs of dragons - for you are crunchy and taste of chicken! Builder in Central Portugal

27th February 2008, 03:01 AM	#3 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,673	Re: Transition Period Not yet, the next 48 hours are the deadliest! Thanks for reminding me to back up! __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

1st March 2008, 02:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,673	Re: Transition Period OK, seems all good for stage 1 The registrar has been changed to one here in Oz, I just repointed the dns settings, lets see how we run now for a few days. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

1st March 2008, 02:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,673	Re: Transition Period Seems to be running a lot faster to me, that's funny, same host and stuff but they didn't have any dns pointing. Can you guys comment here on any changes in speed you notice. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

1st March 2008, 02:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,196	Re: Transition Period it slowed down by about a second here but that don't bother me. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

3rd March 2008, 05:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
DBS Fly'n Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: CT USA Posts: 196	Re: Transition Period Also i have not received a thread update notice in days... would anything that was done on server end effect thread subscriptions? NG... i still have your CD on my desk staring me in the face every morning!! i will get it out.. if you still need/want it. -Daryl Also posting this reply took longer than it used to but that could be User end not server end... __________________ Stihl MS 200T Stihl MS 361

3rd March 2008, 06:52 AM	#8 (permalink)
newguy18 Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see. Posts: 2,196	Re: Transition Period Sure i still want it.If you still need my mailing info pm me. __________________ Have your say join us today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzfzb...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-OqK...eature=related

5th March 2008, 12:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,673	Re: Transition Period Next move is changing hosts, I'll keep you updated. It takes time to download 1.6gig of files etc and then load them up to another server. In that period of time if the board is open all new members and posts wont be transfered so a shut down will be neccessary. We're trying to figure out the best time to do it. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

5th March 2008, 01:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
DBS Fly'n Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: CT USA Posts: 196	Re: Transition Period Eric, Does your forum software allow you to make backups? Is it possible to make a backup, then upload the backup, make the new host live, then all that remains is updating the new host with the small amount of updating since the initial backup was uploaded, hence reducing downtime? -Daryl __________________ Stihl MS 200T Stihl MS 361

5th March 2008, 01:52 PM	#13 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,673	Re: Transition Period We have attachments in the file system and data in the sql, both have to go together. It's the time taken to pull it down and load it up that is the problem. 1.6gig takes a while for me, maybe 10 hours one way. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

5th March 2008, 01:56 PM	#14 (permalink)
DBS Fly'n Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: CT USA Posts: 196	Re: Transition Period dam! what kinda connection do you use? how fast is your upload? heres a cool chart to estimate transfer speeds. How long does it take? -Daryl __________________ Stihl MS 200T Stihl MS 361

5th March 2008, 01:57 PM	#15 (permalink)
Therrin The Tree World Bandit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca Posts: 1,113	Re: Transition Period From the time I click "post reply" it's still taking about 20 - 30 seconds to actually upload my post and change the screen. I haven't noticed any difference at all, if anything I thought it got worse?? sorry....

5th March 2008, 01:59 PM	#16 (permalink)
Ekka Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,673	Re: Transition Period Yeah Therrin, I just moved the registrar but now we have to move hosts. DBS, my speed is 512/512 but I run at around 420 due to distance from exchange. __________________ Remember to use the "search" function, if you have answers/questions post them so everyone can benefit. Free Tree and Green Industry Link Directory Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping Brisbane Tree Care, Consultations and Arborist Reports Forum Sponsors

5th March 2008, 02:08 PM	#17 (permalink)
DBS Fly'n Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: CT USA Posts: 196	Re: Transition Period Eric... man am i spoiled... here is my providers specs.. Optimum online -Daryl __________________ Stihl MS 200T Stihl MS 361