Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors

Eric Frei · 30th March 2010, 06:57 PM

Check out and listen to the Youtube video.

YouTube - Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors

It's in the coursts right now, I wonder what he'll get for it.

Court told of 'rampage' against forestry protesters - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Forestry worker admits rampage Scales of Justice - The Mercury - The Voice of Tasmania

Forest trio frustrated, court told - Local News - News - Crime, Law & Justice - The Examiner Newspaper

Maybe they should have got these guys to visit Richard Pennicuik in WA!

When was the last time you were abused by some tree hugging fool? Me, just today, had to do a job in units .... bound to get a nut job with those stats.

My opinion, protestors should pull their heads in, it's legitimate work and they should not be interfering with the work place. They should also be billed for the hold ups they create.

Garry Brockley · 30th March 2010, 07:10 PM

Im sorry but thats funny! how many times have you wanted to do that. the guy sounds like he's from cornwall not tazzie.
I have dealt with these types of people too and they just frustrate the hell out of you.
a word to the wise they always have a second group with a camera somewhere so if you do sort them out check around for the film crew

These people generally know the law so this poor bloke is probably going to end up with the book thrown at him.
Good luck guys lifes hard enough without these people making it harder.

stjawa · 30th March 2010, 08:00 PM

The protesters are very media savvy these days.They have made these poor buggers look like total head bashers after the pub has closed.The media of course have lapped it up.

What you don't see is the days of lost work or the thousands of dollars of damage the so called peaceful protesters inflict on forestry machinery every year.

These so called environmentally friendly protesters are usually the one driving the old cars blowing out smoke,pollution and dropping oil everywhere.

I'm not in agreement with allot of our forestry practices but there is an extreme element in the protest organisation that I think the media should have a good look at.

stirmantrees · 31st March 2010, 02:35 AM

if there trespassing they should be charged and made financially liable.
good time to have a pet bear! what about dogs?
if they are trespassing and you had some trained animals(dogs) and had plenty of postings could you utilize the animals?
I understand that some of them may be youngsters so im not proposing super violent guard dogs but some trained dogs could be a way to deter there ever setting up. dogs put fear in people.

i didnt mean to put that thumbs down sign in the top of my reply

trout · 31st March 2010, 10:04 PM

Im a tasmanian ( even prouder now ) these dole bludging dicks ( gotta wonder what they put on their forms this fortnight in regards to finding work ) use to drive steel stakes into trees (at felling height ) dam shame he didnt finish off with a skidder .

????wits , THING IS THEY LIVE IN NICE WOODEN HOUSES , ON NICE TREE CLEARED BLOCKS ,WITH NICE WOODEN FLOORBOARDS , WITH NICE WOODEN FURNITURE , PRETTY SURE THEY DONT WIPE WITH THEIR OWN HANDS ( THEN AGAIN I MAY BE WRONG ON THAT ONE) HERES ONE FOR U that form u fill out every fortnight ( so the rest of us can pay for your useless existance is made from trees ) that said Im sure they felt they were doing the right thing

( oh just so u know , the shit u tossers were smoking was prob grown in a section of state park ,cleared just so u could be a useless ????head ) be proud

Eric Frei · 1st April 2010, 08:14 AM

A little more news, but the case will continue in MAy.

Protesters tell court of fears for safety - Local News - News - Politics - The Examiner Newspaper

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31 Mar, 2010 08:45 AM

TWO forest protesters have told Hobart's Magistrates Court that a violent clash with forestry contractors in the Florentine Valley frightened them and made them fear for their safety.

Miranda Gibson, 28, and Nishant Datt, 23, chained themselves inside a car that was used to block contractors from a forestry coup on October 21, 2008.

The court heard that about 6.30am a group of forestry contractors launched an attack on the car, using a sledgehammer and their heavy, spiked work boots to smash the windows and kick in the vehicle.

Footage of the incident, which was recorded by a fellow protester hidden in scrub, was played to the court.

In it, a forestry worker can be heard screaming repeatedly while the car is being smashed: "Get out of my f---ing life you f---ing c---s."

Ms Gibson said that she had feared for her safety, unchained herself from the car and escaped out the smashed back window.

"I was scared about how it would end and I was scared about how far they would take it," she told the court.

Mr Datt told the court Forestry Tasmania worker Scott Marriott had approached the car just before the attack and said: "the police aren't coming and I can't control these guys, you have three seconds to get out of the car".

Mr Datt said he was worried that the contractors would break Ms Gibson's back, which was up against the driver's side door.

The court heard Mr Datt was pulled from the car by a contractor, thrown to the ground and kicked to the head.

"It wasn't extremely hard," Mr Datt said.

Mr Datt said that he had protested to bring attention to the rest of the world and Tasmania that old- growth forest was still being logged in Tasmania.

"I have a personal attachment to that bit of forest," he said of the area that the protest was blocking contractors from.

Contractors Rodney Arthur Howells, of Orford, and Jeremy Leigh Eiszele and Terrence Michael Pearce, both of New Norfolk, have pleaded not guilty to assaulting the protesters.

On Monday the court heard frustration had driven the three men to kick in the car and that they had not realised there were people inside until after most of the car windows had been smashed.

The hearing has been adjourned until May when three more witnesses will be called.

Eric Frei · 11th September 2010, 07:21 AM

The result is in.

Loggers' assault a 'rampage'

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September 11, 2010

THREE forest workers have been convicted of a violent assault that marked a low point in Tasmania's old growth logging dispute.

The assault on blockaders in the contentious Upper Florentine Valley made global internet viewing when it was captured by a hidden camera. A Hobart magistrate yesterday described the assault, using a sledgehammer and steel-capped boots, as akin to a rampage.

Peter Barker, counsel for logging contractor Rodney Howells, 51, said Howells ''lost it'' when he found a disabled car blockading the road into a Florentine Valley logging coupe, with two protesters inside.

A video of the incident, shot from a concealed position by another protester, was described by magistrate Olivia McTaggart as confronting in its violence.

Howells beat the car with a sledgehammer, smashing its windows, as he demanded the protesters inside get out of his way. When Nishant Datt, 22, and Miranda Gibson, 27, got out of the car Jeremy Eizell, 36, grabbed Datt and threw him to the ground, and Terrence Pearce, 34, kicked him to the head. Both men worked for Howells.

Ms McTaggart said the protest was carefully staged to stop workers proceeding with their legitimate activities, and she accepted that Howells was very remorseful.

But she said they were not entitled to deliver their remedy, which was a frightening experience for the protesters. Convictions were recorded on assault charges for all three, and each was ordered to carry out 70 hours of community service.

The court heard that Howells was the victim of an unsolved 2002 sabotage, when five of his machines, worth up to $3 million, were wrecked and burnt in a logging coupe.

Mr Barker said Howells and his work crew had been repeatedly prevented by environmentalists from carrying out their job under contract to timber company Gunns before the October 21, 2008, assault.

''He and other contractors have become pawns in a dispute between environmentalists and the timber industry,'' he said.

A spokeswoman for the protest group, Still Wild Still Threatened, Ula Majewski, said it was time to move on from the case.

''This was really symptomatic of the conflict that has dogged Tasmanian forests for decades,'' Ms Majewski said. ''We are now on the threshold of agreement on a sustainable industry that preserves our truly beautiful wild forests.''

The court decision came just a day after Gunns's chief executive, Greg L'Estrange, declared loggers had lost the public battle for the right to log native forests.

''We will find joint solutions to age-old conflicts and move beyond [to] a real, sustainable forest industry,'' Mr L'Estrange told a trade conference in Melbourne.

Garry Brockley · 11th September 2010, 07:13 PM

Thats good as long as they didn't have to do time and pay a fine to the protesters thats a good outcome.
lokk after yourselves guys you have a tough job

Apocalypsse · 12th September 2010, 12:43 AM

Awesome result for them, although the assault charge may haunt them if they ever have to apply to something.

We have gone sooooooooooo soft with all these laws now. These protesters should be charged for trespassing and endangering others by entering these work sites.

prestigetrees · 13th September 2010, 02:02 AM

i can see the point made by both sides here but i dont think anyone really wins in the end

jim1nz · 14th September 2010, 05:12 AM

I can see both sides of the story too. Mate if the attitude was Always this negative toward trying to save remnant or old growth forest there would be none left and that's for sure. Don't know about Aussie now but Nz has less than 2% remnant forest left. Where do ya draw the line, its a bit late once it's all felled but I guess when it IS all gone, it wont be long until we forgot what what we had.

Eric Frei · 14th September 2010, 08:03 AM

They log what they have permission to log.

The protestors are at the wrong location and need to protest where the permission is granted not where people are doing their legitimate work.

Peter Garett ex Midnight Oils frontman was the minister in charge of all this, that's where they should be protesting.

jim1nz · 14th September 2010, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Eric Frei

They log what they have permission to log.

The protestors are at the wrong location and need to protest where the permission is granted not where people are doing their legitimate work.

Peter Garett ex Midnight Oils frontman was the minister in charge of all this, that's where they should be protesting.

Yes thats true but how shall they make that protest with the same media impact, who will listen? If you want to make a difference and reach a lot of people what is the best way to do it? Through the media. And you know they are not going to be interested in some greenies protesting outside where ever the permission is granted or Peter Garett ex Midnight Oils frontmans house.

Eric Frei · 14th September 2010, 08:28 AM

That's why even though those protestors had video evidence and the shit kicked out of them that the offenders only got a measly 70 hours community work. Judge saw the truth, damned protestors!

second-gen_monkey · 14th September 2010, 11:23 AM

i couldn't understand a word that man was yelling, but boy was he mad!
and with good reason too. all these damn protestors think that because they call themselves "peaceful" they can do whatever they want as long as they don't directly attack someone but when you chain yourself into a car after deliberately disabling it so as to keep people from working you are attacking them, maybe not phisically but it's definately not peaceful. and when you drivea stake into a tree it hurts both the logger and (if it's not felled) the tree, so again, not peaceful. also, when you burn $3 million in equptment... NOT PEACEFUL

i don't care if they want to picket, or rally or whatever they want but if you refuse to allow passage for men trying to work then maybe they should be allowed to yell and scream and take a tenner to your car, and Mr.But They Kicked Me! can blow it out his poop chute. if he was kicked in the head by any of those men he wouldn't be in court, i've dropped one of my spiking boots on my foot and fractured a bone in my arch and an angry man kicking you in the head would definately cause more than a little bruise.

Eric Frei · 14th September 2010, 05:52 PM

He was using the "F" and the "C" word heavily in that clip.

Judge should have fined the protestors for littering!

Eric Frei · 25th September 2010, 06:08 PM

Talking about littering it gets better.

It's alleged this guy was throwing his crap on the coppers beside slagging on them!

Forest protester on faeces-throwing charge - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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Posted Fri Sep 24, 2010

A southern Tasmanian forest protester has been charged with assault after police allege he threw faeces.

The man was perched in a tree in the Picton Valley near Geeveston yesterday where members of the Huon Valley Environment Centre were protesting about logging of old-growth forests.

Police scaled the 50 metre-plus tree but the man climbed higher.

They say the protester was arrested after he came down last night.

He has been charged with assault after allegedly throwing human faeces and spitting at search and rescue officers while in the tree.

The man will appear in court at a later date.

Garry Brockley · 26th September 2010, 10:25 AM

Dirty soap dodging b*****ds thats low, if your life is in danger er maybe but in this instance nooooooooooo

Jason Axe · 1st November 2010, 01:10 AM

if the protesters are so worried about the forrests being cut down why dont they take the hours the protest and get a job and mabey they can eventully buy their own forrest then and only then will they have the right to pound spikes in to the trees. complete bull S### what would happen if we went into the the city and parked log trucks and skidders infront of any building and chained doors on buildings closed becauce we didnt agree with what was going on in the building even though its legal..... bet we would be in jail.

gkn · 1st November 2010, 02:46 PM

have heard that chimps do that as well , kind of says something about this fools IQ

Eric Frei · 24th February 2011, 08:41 AM

Arrest them all I say.

Police nab tree protester Tasmania News - The Mercury - The Voice of Tasmania

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February 23, 2011
A CONSERVATIONIST has been arrested and charged after a protest at the Ta Ann veneer mill in Tasmania's Huon Valley.

Huon Valley Environment Centre campaigner Charlotte Buckton locked herself on to a conveyor at the site yesterday and refused to leave when police moved in to remove the 30 activists.

She was cuffed by officers and taken to the police station where she was charged with trespassing and obstruction.

She is expected to face court in April.

Centre spokeswoman Jenny Weber said the protest aimed to highlight concerns about the mill's use of high-conservation-value forests and a belief that it was blocking the move to meet the forestry moratorium due on March 15.

But Forestry Tasmania spokesman Ken Jeffreys said the protest was "pointless" and "annoying".

"Forestry Tasmania's resolve to contribute constructively to negotiations between environmental non-government organisations and the processing industry grows stronger with each provocation by these activists," he said.

Mr Jeffreys also criticised the group for bringing two toddlers to the protest.

Ms Weber said the children were not at the "coal-face" of the protest.

Apocalypsse · 25th February 2011, 05:36 AM

If they had any brains they would protest and do their stupid shit @ the offices where all the high up exec's work, the ones who have the power to do something. Hitting up the sites themselves brings about feelings that I can't express in words without rage atm. I don't like what the forestry companies are doing with our old growth forests, but theres better ways to go about things rather than locking yourself to machinery.

Eric Frei · 11th March 2011, 09:05 PM

And more from Tasmania .....

Forestry protesters target coupe - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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Wed Mar 9
A group of protesters has walked into a Forestry Tasmania logging coupe in northern Tasmania, demanding an end to logging in high conservation value forests.

The group "Community Opposing the Destruction of the Environment" is calling for logging in the area to stop by next week.

One woman is in a tree-sit, suspended 30 metres above the ground.

Spokeswoman Lisa Searle says the coupe proves logging in high conservation value areas is set to continue for the next few months.

"It seems in general across the state that they're showing no signs of even attempting to implement the moratorium," Dr Searle said.

"They're not moving out of these high conservation value forests and in some cases the logging is intensifying in these areas."

There are no workers on the site and it is unclear what effect the protest will have on the coupe.

jim1nz · 12th March 2011, 07:46 AM

Im astonished at some of the comments here.

AXE - "if the protesters are so worried about the forrests being cut down why dont they take the hours the protest and get a job and mabey they can eventully buy their own forrest."

What? Buy a REMNANT forest that no longer exists because its all cut down by loggers??

Apocalypsse - "If they had any brains they would protest and do their stupid shit @ the offices where all the high up exec's work, the ones who have the power to do something. Hitting up the sites themselves brings about feelings that I can't express in words without rage atm."

Thats all well and good in theory, but it does not get publicity! Where do these polititions get their power from??? THE PEOPLE. This is why the protesters are risking life and limb to be on the news, to try to reach the people that care. If you had any regard for old growth forest you could at least think before being so negative toward the people trying to save it.

I can some what understand why in 3rd world countries remnant forests are logged. Wood is a means of survival there. Australia is a developed country with mostly educated people that has seen horrific pictures of deforestation elsewhere. Why do the exact same in your own country?

Im not saying im anti logging but there are other sustainable ways of logging. Sure the people protesting have extreme measures but at the end of the day they know well enough what happens when 1000s of years of ecology is destroyed.

Im an arborist and i use my knowledge to try and retain trees in a urban environment. That still means i cut down a lot of trees, some healthy trees for no reason but the difference is im not pro old growth logging and never will be.

Im like you guys who gets pissed when the neighbor slows our job because we are felling a tree they like. The millions of living organisms in a old growth forest dont have the possibility to moan so the protesters are doing it, not just for the animals but for the chance for their children to see some big trees in a true remnant forest stand.

Eric Frei · 13th March 2011, 08:21 AM

Forest win for Gunns Tasmania News - The Mercury - The Voice of Tasmania

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March 13, 2011

A NEW deal struck yesterday to halt logging in some of Tasmania's most iconic native forests will hand millions of dollars of federal compensation to timber company Gunns.

It will also mean some forests earmarked for preservation sacrificed to logging in the next six months.

Delighted forest industry groups said the deal also cemented ongoing harvesting in Tasmania's less significant public native forests for at least another 16 years.

The interim agreement putting in place a six-month moratorium on logging identified high-conservation-value forests was struck between environmentalists and forest industry groups late on Thursday night in Hobart's Parliament House.

Brokered by former union boss Bill Kelty after three months of round-table talks, the deal enshrines temporary protection for 600,000ha of previously unprotected HCV public native forests until early September.

Premier Lara Giddings yesterday described the agreement as a breakthrough, enshrining a secure supply of native forest timber for sawmillers until 2027.

She also welcomed enhanced protection of Tasmania's most iconic forests.

"I am pleased the Government, through Forestry Tasmania, has been able to facilitate an agreement that will not only protect agreed areas of HCV forests but will also guarantee wood supply for the sawmilling and veneer sector," Ms Giddings said.

"It is vital that timber workers and timber communities are protected through this process."

But bitter recriminations and counter-claims from all sides almost immediately surrounded the new deal.

Forestry Tasmania chief Bob Gordon warned against "unrealistic expectations" by environmentalists.

He also said Mr Kelty believed a lasting peace in Tasmania's forests after three decades of conflict was only possible "if the pulp mill at Bell Bay proceeds".

Angry environmental groups not included in the peace talks yesterday also alleged the deal contained dangerous loopholes.

It includes clauses allowing logging of any part of the newly protected HCV forests areas within the next six months, "if necessary to meet existing [wood] contracts or for the assurance of wood supply for existing industry".

Forestry Tasmania confirmed yesterday some of the HCV forest areas designated by environmental organisations to be "locked up" and "saved" under the deal would undoubtedly be logged before the September 11 moratorium deadline expired.

Mr Gordon said last night: "We cannot implement a moratorium overnight and still meet our contractual [wood supply] obligations."

Several environmental groups last night expressed concerns the new deal delayed an agreed March 15 moratorium on forest logging.

The deal also calls on the Federal Government to finance the buyout of some existing native forest logging contracts. Gunns has indicated it wants to relinquish all its harvesting rights to native forest timber.

Under existing prices, including the massive contract signed with Forestry Tasmania in 2007 to supply the proposed pulp mill, Gunns could expect a payout worth millions.

The Wilderness Society said last night it was only reasonable any company affected be paid fair compensation.

jim1nz · 15th March 2011, 07:25 AM

Seems like there could still be a few fireworks aver the next 6 months...

"Angry environmental groups not included in the peace talks yesterday also alleged the deal contained dangerous loopholes.

It includes clauses allowing logging of any part of the newly protected HCV forests areas within the next six months, "if necessary to meet existing [wood] contracts or for the assurance of wood supply for existing industry"."

Anyways its a start. Whats a couple of million to the Australian government, they have wasted a hell of a lot more money on completely senseless things.

Eric Frei · 15th March 2011, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jim1nz

Anyways its a start. Whats a couple of million to the Australian government, they have wasted a hell of a lot more money on completely senseless things.

After the current govt blew all their dough on stimulus there was nothing left to pay for the flood and cyclone damage ..... but we all got a big screen TV!

Eric Frei · 7th April 2011, 08:20 PM

Another arrest in Picton Valley today.

Tree-sit protester arrested - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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An anti-logging activist has been arrested after being removed from a tree sit in the Picton Valley in Tasmania's south.

A morning protest ended when police cut a gate attached to the tree sit and forest contractors entered the site.

A group of about 13 protesters were in the area as part of a 10-week campaign to protect forests.

Garry Brockley · 7th April 2011, 10:11 PM

wow they gave it so much coverage

30th March 2010, 07:10 PM	#2
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,641	Re: Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors Im sorry but thats funny! how many times have you wanted to do that. the guy sounds like he's from cornwall not tazzie. I have dealt with these types of people too and they just frustrate the hell out of you. a word to the wise they always have a second group with a camera somewhere so if you do sort them out check around for the film crew These people generally know the law so this poor bloke is probably going to end up with the book thrown at him. Good luck guys lifes hard enough without these people making it harder. __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

30th March 2010, 08:00 PM	#3
stjawa Sappling Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Vic, Australia Posts: 39	Re: Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors The protesters are very media savvy these days.They have made these poor buggers look like total head bashers after the pub has closed.The media of course have lapped it up. What you don't see is the days of lost work or the thousands of dollars of damage the so called peaceful protesters inflict on forestry machinery every year. These so called environmentally friendly protesters are usually the one driving the old cars blowing out smoke,pollution and dropping oil everywhere. I'm not in agreement with allot of our forestry practices but there is an extreme element in the protest organisation that I think the media should have a good look at.

31st March 2010, 02:35 AM	#4
stirmantrees Mature tree Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: oviedo, fl Posts: 469	Re: Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors if there trespassing they should be charged and made financially liable. good time to have a pet bear! what about dogs? if they are trespassing and you had some trained animals(dogs) and had plenty of postings could you utilize the animals? I understand that some of them may be youngsters so im not proposing super violent guard dogs but some trained dogs could be a way to deter there ever setting up. dogs put fear in people. i didnt mean to put that thumbs down sign in the top of my reply

31st March 2010, 10:04 PM	#5
trout Former Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: aus Posts: 29	Re: Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors Im a tasmanian ( even prouder now ) these dole bludging dicks ( gotta wonder what they put on their forms this fortnight in regards to finding work ) use to drive steel stakes into trees (at felling height ) dam shame he didnt finish off with a skidder . ????wits , THING IS THEY LIVE IN NICE WOODEN HOUSES , ON NICE TREE CLEARED BLOCKS ,WITH NICE WOODEN FLOORBOARDS , WITH NICE WOODEN FURNITURE , PRETTY SURE THEY DONT WIPE WITH THEIR OWN HANDS ( THEN AGAIN I MAY BE WRONG ON THAT ONE) HERES ONE FOR U that form u fill out every fortnight ( so the rest of us can pay for your useless existance is made from trees ) that said Im sure they felt they were doing the right thing ( oh just so u know , the shit u tossers were smoking was prob grown in a section of state park ,cleared just so u could be a useless ????head ) be proud

11th September 2010, 07:13 PM	#8
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,641	Re: Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors Thats good as long as they didn't have to do time and pay a fine to the protesters thats a good outcome. lokk after yourselves guys you have a tough job __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

12th September 2010, 12:43 AM	#9
Apocalypsse Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 1,152	Re: Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors Awesome result for them, although the assault charge may haunt them if they ever have to apply to something. We have gone sooooooooooo soft with all these laws now. These protesters should be charged for trespassing and endangering others by entering these work sites.

13th September 2010, 02:02 AM	#10
prestigetrees Sappling Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: newcastle Posts: 13	Re: Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors i can see the point made by both sides here but i dont think anyone really wins in the end

14th September 2010, 05:12 AM	#11
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: International, Germany Posts: 473	Re: Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors I can see both sides of the story too. Mate if the attitude was Always this negative toward trying to save remnant or old growth forest there would be none left and that's for sure. Don't know about Aussie now but Nz has less than 2% remnant forest left. Where do ya draw the line, its a bit late once it's all felled but I guess when it IS all gone, it wont be long until we forgot what what we had.

14th September 2010, 08:03 AM	#12
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors They log what they have permission to log. The protestors are at the wrong location and need to protest where the permission is granted not where people are doing their legitimate work. Peter Garett ex Midnight Oils frontman was the minister in charge of all this, that's where they should be protesting. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

14th September 2010, 08:28 AM	#14
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors That's why even though those protestors had video evidence and the shit kicked out of them that the offenders only got a measly 70 hours community work. Judge saw the truth, damned protestors! __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

14th September 2010, 11:23 AM	#15
second-gen_monkey Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: miami, fl Posts: 121	Re: Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors i couldn't understand a word that man was yelling, but boy was he mad! and with good reason too. all these damn protestors think that because they call themselves "peaceful" they can do whatever they want as long as they don't directly attack someone but when you chain yourself into a car after deliberately disabling it so as to keep people from working you are attacking them, maybe not phisically but it's definately not peaceful. and when you drivea stake into a tree it hurts both the logger and (if it's not felled) the tree, so again, not peaceful. also, when you burn $3 million in equptment... NOT PEACEFUL i don't care if they want to picket, or rally or whatever they want but if you refuse to allow passage for men trying to work then maybe they should be allowed to yell and scream and take a tenner to your car, and Mr.But They Kicked Me! can blow it out his poop chute. if he was kicked in the head by any of those men he wouldn't be in court, i've dropped one of my spiking boots on my foot and fractured a bone in my arch and an angry man kicking you in the head would definately cause more than a little bruise.

14th September 2010, 05:52 PM	#16
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors He was using the "F" and the "C" word heavily in that clip. Judge should have fined the protestors for littering! __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

26th September 2010, 10:25 AM	#18
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,641	Re: Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors Dirty soap dodging b***ds thats low, if your life is in danger er maybe but in this instance nooooooooooo __________________ My business:-** Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

1st November 2010, 01:10 AM	#19
Jason Axe Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: marysville Posts: 60	Re: Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors if the protesters are so worried about the forrests being cut down why dont they take the hours the protest and get a job and mabey they can eventully buy their own forrest then and only then will they have the right to pound spikes in to the trees. complete bull S### what would happen if we went into the the city and parked log trucks and skidders infront of any building and chained doors on buildings closed becauce we didnt agree with what was going on in the building even though its legal..... bet we would be in jail.

1st November 2010, 02:46 PM	#20
gkn Former Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: at home Posts: 14	Re: Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors have heard that chimps do that as well , kind of says something about this fools IQ

25th February 2011, 05:36 AM	#22
Apocalypsse Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 1,152	Re: Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors If they had any brains they would protest and do their stupid shit @ the offices where all the high up exec's work, the ones who have the power to do something. Hitting up the sites themselves brings about feelings that I can't express in words without rage atm. I don't like what the forestry companies are doing with our old growth forests, but theres better ways to go about things rather than locking yourself to machinery.

12th March 2011, 07:46 AM	#24
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: International, Germany Posts: 473	Re: Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors Im astonished at some of the comments here. AXE - "if the protesters are so worried about the forrests being cut down why dont they take the hours the protest and get a job and mabey they can eventully buy their own forrest." What? Buy a REMNANT forest that no longer exists because its all cut down by loggers?? Apocalypsse - "If they had any brains they would protest and do their stupid shit @ the offices where all the high up exec's work, the ones who have the power to do something. Hitting up the sites themselves brings about feelings that I can't express in words without rage atm." Thats all well and good in theory, but it does not get publicity! Where do these polititions get their power from??? THE PEOPLE. This is why the protesters are risking life and limb to be on the news, to try to reach the people that care. If you had any regard for old growth forest you could at least think before being so negative toward the people trying to save it. I can some what understand why in 3rd world countries remnant forests are logged. Wood is a means of survival there. Australia is a developed country with mostly educated people that has seen horrific pictures of deforestation elsewhere. Why do the exact same in your own country? Im not saying im anti logging but there are other sustainable ways of logging. Sure the people protesting have extreme measures but at the end of the day they know well enough what happens when 1000s of years of ecology is destroyed. Im an arborist and i use my knowledge to try and retain trees in a urban environment. That still means i cut down a lot of trees, some healthy trees for no reason but the difference is im not pro old growth logging and never will be. Im like you guys who gets pissed when the neighbor slows our job because we are felling a tree they like. The millions of living organisms in a old growth forest dont have the possibility to moan so the protesters are doing it, not just for the animals but for the chance for their children to see some big trees in a true remnant forest stand.

15th March 2011, 07:25 AM	#26
jim1nz Mature tree Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: International, Germany Posts: 473	Re: Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors Seems like there could still be a few fireworks aver the next 6 months... "Angry environmental groups not included in the peace talks yesterday also alleged the deal contained dangerous loopholes. It includes clauses allowing logging of any part of the newly protected HCV forests areas within the next six months, "if necessary to meet existing [wood] contracts or for the assurance of wood supply for existing industry"." Anyways its a start. Whats a couple of million to the Australian government, they have wasted a hell of a lot more money on completely senseless things.

7th April 2011, 10:11 PM	#29
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,641	Re: Tasmanian forestry contractors attack protestors wow they gave it so much coverage __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

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