Senior Consulting Arborist Title - Criteria?

Eric Frei

I wonder, do you have to have a seniors card to be a Senior Consulting Arborist or is it yet another self appointed title and back patting exercise by some?

I searched Google for "senior consulting arborist" and found a few who liked to call themselves such, and none of them are over 65 years old.

In one case I found Jan Allen calling herself one but so does her employee/subbie Sean Freeman .... bit odd.

I also searched the AQF system and could not find any units that would entitle one to call themselves by such a name. Sounds impressive, Eric Frei Senior Consulting Arborist ..... so much more impressive than just a plain old Consulting Arborist.

Maybe we can dream up an even more impressive title, one that'll make the seniors feel they should retire?

Any ideas/thoughts people?

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Jeff Darby

There's no such thing ? unless your a consulting arborist and you are a senior citizen, but then you would be retired wouldn't you.?? It just doesn't seem to make any sence.. ... it's an illusion of grandeur like old homer gets when he's full of ethol..lol.. or some when their full of themselves.!

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Eric Frei

I was recently asked if you had to be a Level 5 to be a consulting arborist.

Now that was difficult enough to answer let alone trying to explain being a senior consulting arborist.

It's pretty well accepted that to be a consulting arborist you should be a minimum level 5, but it is not really indoctrinated that you have to be. Some local councils have criteria (see page 5 attached PDF) which suggests such though, but what if you are reporting to Mrs Smith about her tree only?

Senior implies older, been around longer, but it can be misleading .... watch.

Bill is an arborist (Level 3) and been doing the job for 10 years, he is 30 years old. His co-worker, Ben, is a consulting arborist (level 5) and been doing consulting for 3 years after 2 years of practical arboriculture (level 3). Ben is 25 years old but pretty switched on.

Bill decided to get his level 5 and does so. Ben quickly changes his title to senior consulting arborist as he has 3 years already under his belt.

Another 5 years pass, Bill now has 5 years consulting which is more than Ben had when Ben initially called himself senior, but as Ben is still around Ben will always be Bill's senior .... when can Bill take up that title?

If some-one has simply been there longer than you does that entitle them to the title? And if they never leave or die will you ever get the title yourself?

All sounds like rubbish to me frankly.

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Garry Brockley

Superior consulting arborist, highly inteligent consulting arborist, or Totally awsome consulting arborist, maybe cantancarous old tosser consulting arborist. we all know one of them!!!!!

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Jeff Darby

In reality when you think about it, it's a pretty generall term as we are all senior arborists to some one, be it by ten minutes..one year etc...etc... it's just a little spit ball in front of your name.... Howdy partner i'm your senior cowboy...yeee haaaaa..

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TrevMcRev

I've used it! Me> And i've given it out as a title to employees too

I think thats all it is, a job title, within your own company. Not pretending it's some kind of qualification.

At times i have employed consulting arborists that are well junior to myself in experience & knowledge. I've also employed consulting arborists who i consider highly experienced & knowledgable, and been ok with calling their position as a senior arborist.

I also dont think there can/must be only one.

A company could have 3 senior arborists & 2 juniors.

Like how some large companys have "senior management"

It doesn't mean they are all "old", but there is some kind of hierachy.

Or in the police, Senior Constable doen't mean you're old, but of a certain rank within your organization.

If you are a sole operator there is probably no valid reason to use it.

Eric Frei

Thanks for confirming the wank.

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TrevMcRev

I thought you'd like that!

Eric Frei

I know one wanker from a wanker infested organisation that makes it his business to harass others due to the wording of their titles etc. That wanker never harasses those who are his mates within their own or other aligned orgs who invent and use wank titles, in fact the wanker uses a wank title himself.

As you can see in the koala thread orgs protect many wankers, some wankers are that daft they cant tell that water runs downhill.

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Jeff Darby

At least we know what "that wanker" jousts with....

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Davo The Terrible

I don't know much about how you would figure out the criteria, but if you ask me, Jan Allen and Sean Freeman sure seem to deserve the title - both seem to have an awful lot of knowledge and experience.