HELP!! - Wikipedia Definition of "Arborist"

bigshea13

gotta disagree with ya there. you dont have to climb and rig to be an arborist. someone who grows grafts,plants,fertilizes ect is definatly an arborist. their spectrum of the field is just as important as yours. if they dont grow em you cant care for as many of em. im sure there is a wealth of info about young trees in their early stages that most cert arbs dont know

osb_mail

Webster definition of horticulture -the science and art of growing fruits, vegetables, flowers, or ornamental plants Webster definition of arborculture-the cultivation of trees and shrubs especially for ornamental purposes Webster def of cultivation- the act or art of cultivating or tilling Webster def of cultivating-1: to prepare or prepare and use for the raising of crops; also : to loosen or break up the soil about (growing plants)2 a: to foster the growth of <cultivate vegetables> b: culture 2a c: to improve by labor, care, or study : refine <cultivate the mind> .So maybe I am starting the great debate here but to Webster dictionary is says nothing about climbing , rigging ,felling of trees I am not saying that these are not big part of some arborist job but they seem to be talking about a nurseryman as being a arborist . Hey Therinn sorry about the bashing earlier I have just seen to many people spraying down a trees leave when they water .Does anyone have Shigo definition .I let some borrow my Modern Arborculture book . Hey I would just like my spell check not to say Arborist is miss spelled .

osb_mail

Newguy there is no way you are going to get me to agree with you 1 ,6,and part of 10 and I am debating on 5 . On 1 there is no reason someone has to be certified to be Arborist ,I am a Certified Arborist.On 6 you dont have to be a salesperson to work with trees not everybody that works with trees is a salesperson some just do the labor . I do think that anyone selling should have a in depth understanding of trees .Never mind on 10 I agree with you gardeners are not Arborist .My 85 year old grandma is gardener she grows tomatoes ,potatoes ,carrots ,but if she was growing a garden full of trees than to me she would be Arborist .Not really sure about the take down thing most Doctor dont have to know how to kill or remove there patients .So does Arborist need to know how to do take downs .Most doctors try to keep there patients alive .But if you call me and want a living tree removed I am sure will be there for a estimate. Newguy I am kind of picking apart your post but I dont mean it in harmful way just letting you how I feel.
Oh yeah not related to new guys post but do guys think a Arborist has to make profit . I mean know if they want to eat and all that . I was just thinking of a doctor I worked for one time he showed me a 200 year old oak he dead wood pruned and a rope swing he installed on a large walnut tree both were pretty good work granted I was not there to see the projects go down but both looked pro .

Ekka

Here if you call yourself an arborist you better be qualified or you'd be imposing as one.

Cant really call yourself anything till you got the cert in my book. Can you call yourself other trade titles without the quals just coz you been doing the job? Hmmm, gets tricky. I know I read somewhere in a case where the tree guy claimed to be an arborist and the judge got pissed off with him coz it was exposed he was not and tried to make out he was ... was a topping job he got busted on or something.

Wiki is there to help the consumer know what types of arborists there are in various countries to.

Here if you are not qualified then you are a tree lopper. And tree loppers who try to pass themselves off as arborists would soon be in for bad news. I also heard around the traps here that you have to be Level3 to call yourself an arborist here.

So USA guys, what arborist certs do you have over there?

ISA Certified Arborist
ISA Certified Tree Worker
ISA Certified Utility Arborist
ISA BCMA

We also need to know what each one of those studies or what their "modules" are.

That will help consumers decide what sort of arborist to seek out. Like will the ISA Tree Worker know the same about tree care as the Certified Arborist.

You guys need to get very specific.

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Treelore

There is also a state certification for every state in America which is usually a more localized test showing you know plant species and vectors in a given area. Something I think needs to be adopted here.
Ithink the definition needs to give some weight to the fact that an Arborist specializes upon the impact of man and the urban area on trees. We are called to study how urban trees and man interact. Otherwise we would just be foresters.

Therrin

Could you please be more specific with the information which this statement is based upon? I hadn't heard of such state-specific cert's before. I'm interested as to how this works.

Treelore

like the California arborist association. Each state has a state cert test that can be taken in addition to say the ISA. So ISA is generalized Arb and state cert is a little more area specific generally.

Therrin

Haven't ever heard of it.... have you any links?

Treelore

Therrin just google any state+ arborist association!!

Treelore

retract the above Therrin. My apologies. I did some research into it and the only 2 states that I can find that offer state certification are MA and NH. I tried about 6 others and they only seem to offer ISA so wasn't gonna google them all. It was just my understanding all states were the same. I guess not. Maybe something to bring up to your local association.
Still the concept holds true and I love the idea of area based accreditation.

osb_mail

Ohio only has certification with ISA .

Ekka

Some counties like our councils here can have their own licencing system. You have to sit and pass their test, get a licence then you are allowed to practice tree work.

Bloody great idea, wish they did it here.

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Ekka

Near the top of the article I was also bewildered by this sweeping statement.
Another load of BS, I have an M31 close approach ticket, many places offer an arborist electrical training to get closer, also the higher the voltage the further distance so this is grossly inaccurate and misleading on multiple counts. Seems to me this whole thing is so pro USA it aint funny.

Also, the certified arborist thing seems to be covered reasonably well here ... however I think more specific information is required as to what the questions are about, like rope structure, cabling, climbing, knots etc.

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JayD

Yes this idea is a start,But how comprehensive would the test be?..Would this test be the equivilient to the years of study,subjects covered in depth..That an Australian Arborist has to do to get his qualifications?...Other trades you have to prove that you have practical experience as well, Under an qualified tradesman, Provide written referances from your boss and also aquire them from small jobs you have done for under $200..to get your license.
To be a qualified Arborist here you have to competant in many subjects from identifying Trees, understanding soils,work to OHS standards for safety,we are even asscessed in chainsaw operation etc..etc the list goes on, If you fail a module you have to come back and get it right or you simply dont pass.
To sit an exam and pass would be good as long as it's comprehensive as the test a Fully trained and asscessed Arborist do.IMO.

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Ekka

I agree, it would be easier to say you must hold the equivalent of AQF Level3 to practice tree work on trees greater than 5m in height.

I use the 5m rule as many gardeners and lawn men are restricted to 5m in height for their insurance ... seems some-one has drawn the line on where tree work and shrub shearers meet.

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