Bond Treeclimbing Stunt

Andrew_Cleave

Hello everyone,

My name is Andrew Cleave, based in the UK

Following on from the worldwide success of 'Casino Royale' featuring Daniel Craig as the new James Bond, we are in the tendering process for action sequences for the new Bond film. We are currently at the creative idea stage.

Given the success of the freerunning/parkour sequence featuring Sebastien Foucan in 'Casino Royale', the scriptwriters are looking for similar ideas based on new physical disciplines/sports. We are proposing shorter action sequences but more of them. The 'parkour' scene has set the bar very high but we are confident we can succeed in bettering it.

After a wide search of the internet, one of these new disciplines/sports mentioned in our discussions was 'professional treeclimbing'.

Our 'treeclimbing' idea would involve a chase/action sequence incorporating the tools, equipment, machinery and techniques of the professional treeclimber.

If we are successful in our bid to perform the action sequences we would require on site guidance from a number of professional treeclimbers and non speaking body double treeclimbing parts in the final film.

What we need from you is your opinions on suggestive scenarios that would make for an exciting sequence. It has to be dramatic and exciting as possible using your knowledge of treeclimbing techniques, equipment, machinery and tools.
It could be filmed anywhere in the world, and cost is not an issue.

A very basic scenario would be 'Political assassin chases Bond through the canopy of a city parkland'. This is very basic I understand but hopefully with your discussion we could add meat to the bones of this simple idea?

Please post ideas on this page as this allows any member of our team to look in on your discussion and make a note of your name for future contact.

Film making and action sequences in particular are a rewarding area to be involved in we hope you can help us win our bid and join our team in the final film making process.

I have made a request for help at www.????????.com

Andrew Cleave

Eric Frei

Hi and thanks Andrew.

First off I would like you to view this tongue in cheek video of the most appropriate little chainsaw that would suit a dual should you ever consider having a chainsaw fight. It's a Stihl MS200T and can be used one handed (although frowned upon by OHS).

I have mine in quick clips so I can comfortably draw and holster with one hand .

www.palmtreeservices.com.au/video/draw.wmv around 4mb

Here's an unusual chipper come stump grinder. Not everyone in the industry knows of these and it would be a little more realistic to see some-one get chomped up by this rather easily.

It's a flail fitted to a Positrac100, they motor along too and wont get bogged.

http://www.palmtreeservices.com.au/v...umpgrinder.wmv
3.4mb long

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Mick Dundee

Now here's a thread I can relate to.

There's this young Aussie bloke who holds the world record for the fastest 80' pole climb, under 10 seconds.

I have a link to a video you really need to watch so you understand what this is all about. Thanks for the video Ekka, ya only got about 200 of them!

http://www.palmtreeservices.com.au/v...oleclimber.wmv 18mb long.

A realistic but great switch would be ...

Climber runs up pole belayed from crane higher up. As he reaches top and end of pole he runs straight off it and jumps onto something else ... tree, building etc. You'd shoot the fast ascent but recut in the top jump as another sequence, could even be green screened then just erase the belay line.

Down in Victoria and Tasmania they have no shortage of large trees. You'll also find shooting in Oz very easy on the budget and allow more for stunts and effects, you'll get more movie for your bucks.

In Tasmania they have a place called Valley of the Giants. Huge eucs, 300'+, no shortage of willing town folk as extras or co-operation from authorities ...

Tree Machine

Most definitely, Cleave. Down under is the place to be.

Mick's idea is great, but I'd like to add.

Tree-to-tree Tarzanning could be done by way of throwing a grapple to a far limb, giant pendulum down, knocking the evil Dr Firestorm for a loop, but only enough to piss him off. The pendulumming Bond continues up to a far tree where Bond does a heel hook into a forked limb. Dr Fireballs arises, pulls the trigger on his flamethrower and melts the upside-down Bond's rope. It drapes to the ground and just as Bond gets upright and begins his ascent. Dr Flamebastard grabs the melted end of the rope and is hoisted upward by the climbing Bond. He screams in pain, and once he reaches the first limb, begins climbing up. Bond is at the top, nowhere to go.....

Just as the ill-intentioned pursuer is getting his flame thrower close enough to turn Bond's heels and rope into dripping, molten plastic, our Hero quickly fashions a running bowline from the melted end, lassoo's the landing rail of the helicopter that swoops down and he's off in fine Bond style to get some major pussy.

Cleave, I threw down for the sake of fun, but I think you're trolling us.

007

Cleave is an imposter.

His IP address traces back to Manchester UK.

An authentic servant of Tom Delmar would not have a Yahoo email address.

I smell a rat Cleave, been sleeping in the cellar have we?

There is a small time writer called Cleave but your literacy skills aren't up to scratch with the usual caliber of that particular Cleave.

I wonder what it is you will gain from this? We have traced you Cleave and in a short time there will be agents crawling all over you, I hope you have fresh underwear as it's standard procedure to lets say ... be thorough.

We'll chat real soon Cleave, sooner than you think, and changing SIM cards in your cell phone doesn't screen the IMEI number, your EMEI is being tracked now by the nearest tower, we know exactly where you are and who you are.

Good day Cleave.

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Drouin Tree Service

Andrew i can assist you with your progect for a small fee.

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clementine

Loved the video Mick.
That guy must have the legs of a bullfrog!
Amazing!

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Andrew_Cleave

Guys,

I may not have been entirely accurate with certain elements of truth within my first post.

I still believe that professional treeclimbing would be an excellent discipline to weave into a Bond storyline or even serve as an incidental backdrop to a thrilling action sequence.

I will continue in my endevour to bring professional treeclimbing to the big screen.

Don't be surprised if you see me around on your forum from time to time as I will continue gathering relevent information for action sequences.

If the day comes when a film needs qualified experienced treeclimbers to piece together an awesome treeclimbing sequence I will contact you here, and hopefully we can work together to find the best recipe for a great success.

007 - nice touch, It's important to have a healthy sense of humour. Smile and the world smiles with you, cry, and you cry alone.

I also see you have your very own 007 in the form of Sean Freeman, his skills would be put to better use working for Her Majesty's Secret Service.

Andrew Cleave

Eric Frei

All's good and a bit of fun.

Do visit again, and putting tree work onto the big screen would be great, I wish you well in your endeavours.

Andrew

I have tried to get hold of Graeme McMahon via email to join this threa but he hasn't responded.

Here's a compilation of short videos I found on the net and stuck together, pay attention around half way through.

This guy knows his stuff, I have also seen him levitate blocks off stumps using two highpoints. He cuts through a large section and it sits up then gets carefully slewed off and lowered by controlling tension on two opposing ropes. This guy is the big tree guru in Oz.

http://www.palmtreeservices.com.au/v...collection.wmv 5.7mb WMV

There's a video 6.2mb WMV from his website of some stem wobble. Click on the Triplet Head Falls video on the left hand side just above the block of green and counter.

http://sherbrooketrees.tripod.com/sh...vice/id11.html



There is a problem though Andrew. The people you said you worked for in the first post have requested deletion of the thread, they are not happy with you and your misrepresentation. Perhaps you need to rewrite your first post and remove any representation to anything other than yourself. If you have trouble doing that simply PM or email me with what you want done and I can help.

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Andrew_Cleave

I have emailed the people concerned to apologise for my ill judged first post, in which I included their name under false pretences.

I would just like to add that I am still excited about the possibility of using professional treeclimbing in a film, I will call in every now and again to ask questions and propose potential sequences.

Sorry we got off to a bad start.

Eric Frei

Good on you Andrew.

No harm done I suppose and at least you've been good about.

Have fun and you may want to check the video section too occasionally.

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Tree Machine

A troll who admits he is trolling. At least you're manly about it.

Normally, starting a thread and coming in lying WOULD be a bad start, but we smelled troll on you from the beginning.

You stimulated enough fun thought that we forgive you for trying to deceive us. Now go away.


The 'Bond Stunt' hoax is over, but that doesn't mean we still can't dream. If we were to do something tree-like, with adventure, we'd go to someone who's been in the adventure business, as well as the film business.
Mark Burnett would be a natural to pitch an idea to. We'd have to maybe meld it into a reality-show. Mark's real good with the human-to-human inner rivalries and team vs personal survival mentalities.

The problem is we, as tree guys, are like a fraternal brotherhood so pitting one against another is a stretch.

Hollywood may not have a place for us .

Drouin Tree Service

We might just trump Cleave at his own game here $$$$$$$$

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Andrew_Cleave

Thanks Tree Machine, your alright!

Well you know what they say don't you?

"It ain't over till the Fat Lady sings"

And judging by the look of you in your videos Tree Machine - the 'Fat Lady' has most certainly sung.

Think I'll stick around here for a while, if you guys don't mind that is?

You guys are cool.

Eric Frei

Tree Machine = Steve Irwin wannabe!

I like the one where the branch broke and landed on the roof, now that's great ... gives you lots of ideas.

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Andrew_Cleave

Do you have any footage of the McMahon people?

Eric Frei

OK

Now this shows "Scotty" and how it works. Scotty beams you up. And GM doing another regnans.

9.7mb WMV http://www.palmtreeservices.com.au/v...rooketrees.wmv

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TREE-SURFER

Bond, being chased around a tree , high up in the canopy....(Hhhmmmmm), I know he's good 'n' all, but he aint that good. Now a chainsaw duel, that would be more like it.. Stihl V's Husky........ being sliced and diced by an MS200T and to be finally dissected by a Bandit 90..

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Ekka East-Woodcutter

That was funny.....Chainsaw wars...with the spurs 'n'all.

Ekka, where do you get those clips from. I got a habit of dropping the saw onto its bungee lanyard, until recently, where it had unclipped itself from my belt and dropped 20 feet to the ground. No damage at all, tough little saw.

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Tree Machine

Burnett has done quite a lot of work in Australia, with great result. He's British and so are you (?). All it would take is a good idea and we would figure a way to get it in front of him, but not before it is developed and has some sense of direction.

There's SO MUCH telly out there on all kinds of things, from everything, on down to just about everything. Arboriculture, though, relatively limited from homeowner stuff, and then there's some tree transplant stuff around, and of course the Stihl lumberjack series competitions, then youtube and then there's us with our images and video, but really not a lot on the airwaves.

So redeem yourself, Cleave. I'm still a little sore that you tried to dupe my mates. Apparently you have a creative mind, so put it to use. Do something real.

Give us a post on Mark Burnett. If you have ANY affiliation with the industry you claim to represent, you know the work of this guy. Give us a post on Mark and what he's done since 1990. This way, we Arborists will know to whom we're giving a pitch.

Then in following posts you can spur creative originality in developing an idea.We don't mind as long as you contribute. We work diligently and as a volunteer force to advance the causes of our industry. Then you step in and make a mockery. Now you think we're cool and wanna stick around for awhile.

Hmmmm.

Andrew, I'd like to politely suggest you get in the mix, or get lost. If you wanna be the center of attention, this is your thread and we can continue on. I'll prompt you forward and you can expect assistance from all of us. We're here to support your public transgression from fool-idiot to a respectable human. You could eventually become a hero if you take this serious. For right now, you're our bitch.


Your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to compile a short (THOUSAND words, give or take) biography on Mark Burnett. After that, we can move on to what it is we're thinking about collectively; the rough format and title for a teleworthy project we can be proud to share with the world.


I'll be helpful, Cleave, and start your work. In fact, I'll write the first 5 years and you can continue on.

Tree Machine

In 1990 Mark Burnett, a former military Special Operations guy with the British Royal Army, was selling T-shirts on the beach in California.

In 1991 Burnett heard about a French adventure race called the Raid Gauloises. In 1989 the race had been held in New Zealand, in 1990 in Costa Rica and in the current 1991, in New Caledonia. Burnett wanted to create a team for the 1992 Raid to be held in Oman, Saudi Arabia. He found a previous racer from the Costa Rica event, by way of a Los Angeles Times article, as guide and council and went about putting together his team, and finding sponsorship to cover the $10,000 inscription fee as well as all costs of training and transporting the team to Saudi Arabia.

In 1992, Mark found a sponsor, BUM equipment, and DID get his team into the race. One member fell out a couple days short of the finish line and the team was DQ'd. This was the first all-American team in the French race, but they did not finish. Burnett was not a quitter.

Once back home, work went immediately toward formulating a team for the 1993 Raid to be held in Borneo, Madagascar. Burnett kept the strongest team members from his Oman team and brought on others. With the new heightened awareness of what the race was really like, training missions became much more serious. As well, public exposure was on the increase, like when 'Team American Pride' rappelled out of the girders and onto the ice at a Blackhawks hockey game. Burnett knew that widespread exposure and endorsement for his team sponsor was critical, and getting in front of the cameras with spark and awe was very much a natural element within him.

In 1993, Team American Pride finished the Madagascar Raid Gauloises with an intact team of 5 and put to rest the French view that Americans just couldn't cut it in this kind of race. Burnett had new ideas by this time. He wanted to bring adventure racing to the North American continent. No longer did Burnett want to have a team. He wanted to BE the race.

By 1994 Burnett passionately promoted this racing event that, lets face it, few Americans had ever heard of. The logistics were immense, but they could follow the general format of the Raid. The money needed to pull off a race of this magnitude was also huge, and Mark found a co-partner to overcome this element, but the hardest one was public perception. Overcoming the assumption that 50 teams of 5 people each were going to be trashing across 500 KM of distance, well, you have to have permission from everyone's land you'll be trampsing across. Even in the wilderness, someone has title to the land. The strategy was to pitch the race as an 'environmentally conscious' race, to promote the awareness of ecology and preservation by treading lightly,with no damage to the land raced upon, and to preface the race with an 'Environmental Cause Day' where all the racer athletes would combine with local folk near the race's start and together do a day project to benefit the local environment. Even the name of the race was such that it would forward that environmentally sensitive initiative. The Race would be called the ECO-CHALLENGE.

1994 was a failed attempt for Burnett. The race was slated for Alaska, but gaining land permits, the distance up there, wildly unpredictable weather, the overall logistics and costs just alone in planning bankrupted the effort.
But Burnett was not a quitter.

The '94 failure was simply viewed as an early head-start for the 1995 Eco-Challenge in Utah, USA. To get this race in motion Burnett had to take a loan on his mortgage and max out all his credit cards. The race was a smashing success. Plans for the next year's 1996 race were also well under way. Because of the overwhelming popularity of the 1995 Utah event, ESPN picked up on it and asked Mark to head a 5-day version of the Eco-Challenge in the fall of '95 as part of their Extreme Games venue. He accepted, and there was a huge popularity surge with regards to the Eco-Challenge race. Smaller qualifying races were popping up all over the place, 24 hour adventure races, three-day events and an overall upsurge in ultraendurance events in general.
The next Eco-Challenge, in 1996, would be held in the remote wilderness of British Columbia.

1996, British Columbia. The previous ESPN event, and it's ratings, brought adventure racing fully into the public spotlight, so much so that the Discovery Channel bought the rights and renamed the race 'The Discovery Channel Eco-Challenge'. They filmed the British Columbia race in its entirety and broadcast it to 143 countries. This set Burnett in a unique place. He could do adventure racing for as long as it was popular, or he could develop an exit strategy now and go on to work on other projects. His media connections were now pretty solid, and his ideas were well-received and universally popular.

Mark chose to exit after overseeing one more race, but only because he had a bigger idea. Mark was always entirely fascinated by the human psyche and how the mind and the human animal would react when taken so fully out of their normal element and subjected to stresses not normally experienced. Adventure racing was the perfect setting for this. After 5 to 7 days out in the unknown, a group of mixed-gender team mates, hungry, cold, tired, wet, physically spent, stripped of all human luxuries of normal life, forced to sleep on the ground, keep on the move until deep in the night..... even the toughest, most seasoned athlete can crumble, and regularly do under these circumstances. Some of the most unlikely, however, thrive, but even so, thriving while your team mates are suffering does not get you to the finish line.

Team dynamics. Human-to-human interaction and how to capture this on film for the public was always on his mind.

In 1997 the Discovery Channel Eco-Challenge was held in Australia. Mark saw this excellent race through to it's completion and developed a special fondness for the Aussies as they were very aligned with his vision and didn't offer up the mountain of obstacles that the American govt. did in Utah '95. But Mark also knew that afterwards that he would start a whole new project, that adventure racing he would have to leave behind, but from it had crystallized the budding idea for the next project.

His new project was another 'pit human against nature' format, but also to pit human against human not only from the standpoint of one team vs another, but also an element of team mate vs. team mate within the same team by making it so that the members of the team are voted off the team one-by-one by members of the team.....it could be that the weakest link gets sent home because they're holding the team back, OR the strongest gets voted away because they're clearly a threat to the weaker members advancing. As the weeks go on, and the chalenges and conditions become more difficult, the tribe members and their personal strategies and hidden agendas play out, the teams getting smaller and smaller, week by week until there are just two finalists, and finally, there is one left standing. That person gets a million dollars. #2 gets nothin.

OK Andrew Cleave, the name of that popular show is called _____________.


Please continue Mark's biography from here. The hard part has been written for you.

Then share with us a brief pitch on how you see the tree community offering great entertainment value to the public while advancing the causes of our industry. Burnett may be exploring new ideas currently, so make it good. Make it real good.

Tree Machine

and this is for Cleave and all the rest of the viewers.

It is a video of Mark Burnett in addressing a group of entrepreneurs. What he has to say is inspiring. It always has been. He's very straight-forward.


You up to this Cleave? Make a choice and state it.

Andrew_Cleave

Tree Machine

All I was trying to do was help, that's all. If it wasn't for me you would never have mentioned 'Mark Burnett'.

I am a creator of opportunities, I see the possibilities in places people would not dream of looking.

I saw a potential opportunity for you enthusiastic tree guys, I ignited a spark in you all and opened your minds to a plethora of arb ideas for film.

You Tree Machine, are a fierce proponent of original and inspiring ideas, right?

You see yourself as a maverick in an otherwise straightjacketed industry bound by strict rules and guidlines of health and safety?

I wish you well for the future Tree Machine, because it's people like you and me that make the impossible possible.

My credentials are impeccable, but seeing as we are on the same wavelength I feel it's inappropriate for me to justify my actions with a purile attempt at pacifying your hawkish questioning.

Try to be at peace with the world Tree Machine,

Life is too short for your transient, petty and vindictive motives.

As for Mark Burnett, I will be happy to look at his resume and decide from there if he is the calibre of person I would want to get involved with on the issue of bringing professional treeclimbing to the big screen.

Are trees sentient beings?

Eric Frei

Hey Jim

I think (according to Burnett) that in the tree world those idiots would be sap suckers. LOL

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Tree Machine

Good one, Ekka. You'd have to see the video to get that joke.

...and back to Mr Andrews:Help what?



Petty and vindictive? I see you as judgemental, uninformed and dishonest.

You don't know me very well, do you?

If this were petty, I wouldn't give it my time of day.
I'm not even going to ask you what it is you feel I have to be vindictive about. Motives???

Also, I'm not a maverick. I'm just one of the guys. I follow the rules. Our industry needs rules or we get killed. Innovator, yes. Maverick, no.

Your humor is acknowledged. How about if you're gonna dodge everything in the previous post, why don't you post us YOUR resume. Share with us your impeccable credentials. We've just outted you as a fake and you're a self admitted liar. Yet, we're still not telling you to bugger off. Why is that? Because we're giving you an opportunity to redeem yourself, Mr. Creator of Opportunities.

Whatever. Can you share with us, maybe, what were the questions?

Tree Machine

Cleave...... click, click, hello?

Actually, I plaigerize most of my stuff. Anything that looks original is stolen from other industries and adapted to ours.

Just wanna set the record straight on that so no one gets the wrong message.


Cleave, your last post sounds desperate, was disjointed and offered us nothing. Quite possibly because you have nothing to offer, but that's just speculation. Your choice is to offer nothing, now that's fact. Earlier I offered to you, Andrew, in a polite suggestion that 'you get in the mix, or get lost'.

We forgive you, though, again. Now, if you could go make the impossible be possible somewhere else, that would be great. I'm not going to accuse you of not having integrity, as you already owned up to that. We at the arborist forums are buddies and really don't appreciate you yankin our chains. Tom Dunlap, for example, is a personal friend and I have welcomed him into my home. If you are denegrating ???????? as you are this one, I'd think he'd have a problem with it.

And by some looooooooooong shot you're a spy from another site, infiltrating and stirring things up as a joke, know that even though we're attending different sites, we're all doing what we're doing for the same reasons; for the love of trees. There's no competition going on between us.

When you go to bed tonight, Cleave, know that you are talented and have a lot to offer the world. If you're truly smarter than most, playing head games is not becoming of you. There's no growth in that, but it defines you, not to us, but to you yourself. I'm sorry you're lonely, but the choices you make that drive others away are of your own making. Acting out fantasies for others to be involved with is a cry for help. We love you, Cleaves. Seek counselling and talk it out. Go for a therapeutic canoe ride, whatever the hail you do, just apply your talent to something productive.

And asking politely, please go.

Andrew_Cleave

Ok, sorry guys, your right, I am 100% delusional.

I don't know what's wrong with me.

I think the canoe ride sounds good, I always fancied getting one of those big Canadian canoes and just heading on out to a remote river somewhere with clear skies and beautiful scenery.

The only reason I've never gone ahead with this dream is that when i was about 12 years old I went on a kayak course, you know the ones with just a small hole in top? It was going to be my new hobby, I would mow lawns every saturday for a whole summer to buy my kayak.

At the course I was quite happily paddling away and full of youthful enthusiam for my new found hobby, I would rotate and paddle forward quickly, it felt good to be out there on the water. That was the morning.

Afternoon came. To complete the course we had to show that we could escape from the kayak if it ever turned upside down.

The instructor shouted me over, I was very nervous, all my feelings of happiness were quickly giving way to abject terror. WJAM!! SPLEURGGGH!!!Before I had time to take a breath the bast*rd had flipped me, the water was freezing, my short life flashed before my eyes, I tried and tried again in vain to get my legs out!!! they were stuck!! I started to panic, I couldn't breath, I had nothing in my lungs!!! then after what seem like an eternity in hell, the instructor flipped me back upright.

I struggled to catch my breath, I felt great relief but was utterly miserable all at once. A drowned rat.

The instructor told me to leave. I had failed, he said come back again when you are ready.

Ever since that day I have felt like a failure.

I will never be ready.

Goodbye my friends

007

It appears the ........



fat lady has sung Cleave.

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