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5th April 2008, 04:07 AM
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| Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some  Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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|  Beware Expert Village Idiot Drew George Finn| Dangerous Felling Practices Beware Expert Village Dangerous and illegal practices are being shown as "expert" ways of doing things. This is SHOCKING stuff and other fools are watching and believing! Inspired from two sources here. Why angled back cuts are dangerous Angled back cut| backcut| tree felling| back cuts We were put onto a series of videos by Drew Finn of some seriously poor practices. He thinks coz he's some desk jockey engineer and back yard wood lot tree faller he is qualified to spin his bullshit around the net. Viewers are buying the bullshit too! Here is the whole series of videos to "safe" "proper" tree felling.  This is not a joke but a serious threat from a HACK! An idiot passing himself off as an expert, in a field he knows little about. You'll see some real shoody stuff in the list of "expert" videos. see for yourself, here's the list. Below the list is some pics I pulled. Notching Theory for Felling a Tree : How to Cut Down a Tree Safely | ExpertVillage Videos Planning the Wedge and Escape Routes On-Paper : How to Cut Down a Tree Safely | ExpertVillage Videos Tying a Rope Anchor : How to Cut Down a Tree Safely | ExpertVillage Videos Loading Rope Tension to the Tree : How to Cut Down a Tree Safely | ExpertVillage Videos Cutting the Notch in the Tree to Fell it in the Desired Direction | ExpertVillage Videos The Felling Cut, Part One : Listening to the Tree: How to Cut Down a Tree Safely | ExpertVillage Videos The Felling Cut, Part Two : Angle of Cut : How to Cut Down a Tree Safely | ExpertVillage Videos Using a Felling Wedge : How to Cut Down a Tree Safely | ExpertVillage Videos Felling a Tree Without a Rope : How to Cut Down a Tree Safely | ExpertVillage Videos Removing a Widow-Maker with a Rope, Part One : How to Cut Down a Tree Safely | ExpertVillage Videos     Seems this guy might want to team up with Nosak, Aerial and any other Superhero to create a new world order of tree work! 
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5th April 2008, 04:49 AM
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| Astronaut  Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati
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| Re: Beware Expert Village Idiot Drew George Finn| Dangerous Felling Practices In that wedge picture, looks like he's got a second notch for some reason below the slanted bottom notch and the slanted back cut. Must be some esoteric reason for that. Have to ask Aerial if can't get him on the line. not  |
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5th April 2008, 06:57 AM
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| The Tree World Bandit  Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancaster, Ca
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| Re: Beware Expert Village Idiot Drew George Finn| Dangerous Felling Practices Ekka, after reading this I finally realized how the Treezine and the website interact to boost eachother on the internet. That's pretty cool how you figured out to tie all that stuff together and make it work out for ya. That guy looks like he's pretty dangerous. Too bad he's old and probably set in his ways. The whole picture hits just a little too close to home, I'm glad I had you guys here to pull me through rough spots like that. It'll do wonders for me if I ever get caught on video
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5th April 2008, 11:37 AM
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| Cruisin' Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bermuda
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| Re: Beware Expert Village Idiot Drew George Finn| Dangerous Felling Practices Thats SHOCKING bad!!! He'd get put with the remedial kids in any of my classes...or better yet told to stand in the corner and watch...
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5th April 2008, 02:12 PM
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| Astronaut  Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney
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| Re: Beware Expert Village Idiot Drew George Finn| Dangerous Felling Practices WoW and he is allowed to show this incorrect technique, He had me cringing all the way through, From his cuts to the dangerous way he controled his saw, One of his videos he was nearly a victim of kickback and probably does'nt even realise it. To be a hack and not realise it, Then go out and try and teach your hack ways  America close this fool down!  |
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5th April 2008, 08:33 PM
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| Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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| Re: Beware Expert Village Idiot Drew George Finn| Dangerous Felling Practices There's an email address on the site for video submissions I found. I joined yesterday and commented but comment obviously not approved.... funny about that, and people think it's tough around here! Never any easier. Here's that email address! jay@expertvillage.com
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6th April 2008, 05:41 PM
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| Tree World Icon  Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see.
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| Re: Beware Expert Village Idiot Drew George Finn| Dangerous Felling Practices I wonder how many homeowners see that and use those techniques?Probaley the reason for so many dumb youtube videos.
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6th April 2008, 08:53 PM
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| Newbie Join Date: May 2007 Location: So. Central Minnesota
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| Re: Beware Expert Village Idiot Drew George Finn| Dangerous Felling Practices Just watched some of the videos of Finns. Scary comes to mind. So I fired off an email to jay@expertvillage.com & I asked him to check out his self proclaimed experts before someone uses thier advice and gets hurt. |
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6th April 2008, 09:10 PM
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| Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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| Re: Beware Expert Village Idiot Drew George Finn| Dangerous Felling Practices Good on you mate, my comment still not approved, never will be I reckon, no answer to email either ... village people must be on tour! 
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6th April 2008, 09:29 PM
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| Tree World Icon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Live Oak Florida home of the crapiest trees you will ever see.
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| Re: Beware Expert Village Idiot Drew George Finn| Dangerous Felling Practices Maybe his next video can show him pounding in a wedge with his hard head.
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7th April 2008, 12:25 AM
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| Afterburner is shakin' Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SE USA
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| Re: Beware Expert Village Idiot Drew George Finn| Dangerous Felling Practices Quote:
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7th April 2008, 12:37 AM
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| Eric Frei Administrator - Brisbane L5 (Dip) Hort Cert III Arb + some Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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| Re: Beware Expert Village Idiot Drew George Finn| Dangerous Felling Practices It's good to see you have a sense of humour Guy, what next, read 10 posts and you're a consultant! Imagine a video "Become a forensic arborist in 15 minutes"
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7th April 2008, 10:26 AM
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| Fly'n  Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: england
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| Re: Beware Expert Village Idiot Drew George Finn| Dangerous Felling Practices just sent them the following email i have just watched your tree felling videos. i have to say i am appalled at the content, your so called expert cannot have any formal tree training.i have been in this industry for 20 years and your expert is teaching dangerous practices. i hope no-one is seriously hurt or killed by using information from your site,you may find yourself open to litigation. check your countries standards institute,this is what you will need to defend yourself against in court. for professional tree felling information try www.treeworld.info/ J.Myers |
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