Red back spider bite

Cole

was taking down some tree's in canberra's arboretum with a mate of mine, around lunch he was like bloody ant bit my leg small red mark like an ant or mozzie bite, later that afternoon we were down the lake riding jet-ski and my mate started vomiting by the time we had got back to the jetty his leg was huge couldnnt even see his ankle bone, so straight up to the hospital, turns out he had been bitten by a red back, so they cut his leg open to let some fluid out than sewed him up....3 diffrent types of antibiodics they said if the wound starts to leak cut the stiches, so last night the stiches were almost bursting open so back up to the hospital we now find out that the water has infected the bite the previous afternoon.....so local anesthetic, take out the stiches make a larger insicion to try and clean out the wound....OUCH nasty stuff

Eric Frei

Yep, just like I said here, ants spiders then snakes.

There's some bad assed spiders, I got bitten by some whacko spider which had white stripe down it's back, bit on the face, went numb and swelled up double the size of Sir's head.

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Jeff Darby

and here's the culprit...



and maybe the one that bit you, Ekka

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TrevMcRev

Both little bastids you want to keep well away from.

Hope your mate recovers well Cole

windthrown

Wow. All we have here are brown recluse spiders, and black widow spiders. For snakes its just rattlers. All the ants here are benign. In the southeast US they have fire ants. I have been attacked by those suckers there, just walking across a lawn! They also have chiggers there too. Of course we have lime disease ticks, and Rocky Mountain feaver ticks. And mosquitos that carry denge fever and West Nile virus, and rats that carry haunta virus.

I read about the little blue ringed octopus there in Oz waters. Deadly. Never mind the deadly jellies that they have there too (considered *the* most deadly animal on the planet by many). Oz is infested with deadly critters. Crocks, snakes, spiders, jellies and octopii... oh my!

Jeff Darby

and just when you thought it was safe to go out....

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dov

The blue-ringed octopus is a nasty specimen particularly as it looks so harmless until threatened - if you see the tiny little thing at all!

As I've often said to visitors and immigrants to Australia, "If in doubt, it's poisonous!"

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windthrown

No need to go out to get bitten by those in Oz. The males go inside looking for females to mate with! And the males are more venomous (unusual in spiders).

We have over 400 species of funnelweb spiders here in North America, but none of them are very toxic. Nothing like the Sydney version.

Cole

hey windy hows u been how was christmas and your new years what did u get up to

windthrown

Pretty mild here for the holidays. My niece bought a new townhouse and I helped her move. We got a surprise snowstorm last week so I was not able to go to California as planned. No one could get anywhere here for a few days. I have a tentative job offer in California and I may move back there in a few months. The economy is dead here, and things are not good for arborists or loggers. The job would be building and remodeling houses for a group of people that I know (I did some logging for them 2 summers ago). I am in survival mode.

Apocalypsse

That is no doubt the best description of Australian fauna I've heard, gotta start using that.

Havent come across many redbacks on the job, just a couple here and there, one nasty big one. My scout camp on the other hand, I turn over a rock and its like a capital city, at least 20 of the suckers all with eggs.

Bruce Hopf

While I was driving transport trucks, I picked up a load in Kingman Arizona. On the steps, going into the plant, I seen what I thought was a Tarantula, big black and hairy looking thing. It was still, so I just left it alone (not knowing anything about them), I thought it was best.
Around here, we have garter snakes, and the odd Copper Head snake. Where my Mother lives (about 75 miles away from me), they have introduced Rattle Snakes, into the area, to cut down on the Turkey Eggs (introduced into this area , and her's over the past 10 to 15 years, and didn't for see an over population of the Turkeys.), and Turkey population.
The ministry of game and wild life, didn't give anyone of my Mother's area, any warning of the introduction the rattle snakes.
A person out walking with her dog, came across a rattle snake (didn't get struck by it) told her husband, so he shot it, and reported it to the game and wild life office, that he had killed this rattle snake.
The husband was charged for killing a protected animal, or reptile. (they are protected in that area, because they are a new species), of that certain area.
Came to find out afterwards, that there was no anti venom in the area, what so ever, and they released these snakes, without any precaution, or warning to the general public, what so ever. .
Won't be long, that a person that goes into the bush, will have to wear snake bite proof chaps, or will chain saw chaps stop a snake bite. Thanks. Bruce.

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jmcg.insight.gardens

Yep all Australian fauna are protected here as well.

Well there is one less here as of tonight.

My car alarm has been driving me nuts for a few nights now, going off at random for no apparent reason and only at night.

Got in to have a look the night before last and felt a web, just one strand but a reasonable size to it so Ive had my suspicions.

Sure enough driving tonight, what ran across the inside my windscreen? a big huntsman spider of course.......he or she had obviously been setting off the sensors of my car alarm.

According to the NRMA (our motoring authority) huntsman spiders account for many road accidents per year.

Well it was his night for an accident I'm sorry to say.

Can't have him landing on my lap next time I pull down the sun visor. I,m not a fan of killing things but safety comes first.

Julie

dov

I've had a couple of huntsmans in cars. Why oh why do they wait until you're driving at 100kph or more to make their way across the windscreen?

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stirmantrees

they introduced a deadly animal to control turkey's. what the ......
i'd be killing any of those rattle snakes that came on my property......with an arrow of course.
thats nuts.
were rattlers ever native there Bruce?

windthrown

This release animals into the wild thing to control other animals that they released into the wild is plain nuts. They are letting the wolves cross into Oregon from Idaho now. Wolves? Yah, we need more predators. Why not just sell more deer tags? More money that way. To sensible, I guess. So more sheep and cattle losses here now. They released turkeys here too, so that people can hunt them. They are everywhere now. Too many of them, really. No one really hunts them. And they are releasing some type of goats that no one can say were ever in this area, but the greenies all want them for some insane reason. So they gurdle the trees and trample the bush. Oh, well, the wolves will be here to take care of them. Yah... right... they need to hunt the wild pigs to extinction in California. They do massive damage there. But nooooooooo!

They ought to sell tags for hunting these idiots that come up with this stuff. Rattle snakes in Canada? They are native to the south and west US. Several types. Government insanity to justify more government insanity.

Eric Frei

Hmmm, some rattlers are native to Canada.

Source: Rattlesnake

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Bruce Hopf

I've hear about the Massasauga rattler being here in Ontario, but that was a long time ago, when I was a kid. They where never in this area, but up in Northern Ontario.
Here they have Turkey hunts, but only the males can be taken (a lot of good that does to the population).
Back in 1989, was the first controlled deer hunt (both Buck, and Doe), in this part of Ontario (shot gun, and mussel loaders only), for one week, and has been a season ever since.
They need to have to have the same thing for the turkeys as well. Last winter, I was fueling my biggest tractor, at the end of my barn, and if I would have had the shot gun handy, I could have had 2 or 3 turkeys.
They were just inside my bush, which is less than 75', from the back of the barn. There was 8 of them, on the ground, just walking around, and one was sitting in a tree.
Only predator, that might go after a turkey, in this area, other than man, is the fox, and coyotes, but I don't think that they even bother with them.
I agree, trying to introduce wild life into an area, is a pain in the Arse, then they have to figure away to cut down on the population. What next. Bruce.

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Husky man

ive been stung by a wasp once when i was pruning a banksia. the Bastard stung me right on my collor bone. got my mate to send up the can of Mortein and after spraying them quickly prussiks to the ground and outta the way.

windthrown

Wasps here too. We have two types of yellow jackets, the ones that build small paper hives of a few cells, and the ones that build large multi level condos in the ground. The ground ones are really bad. They sting and sting and sting. And they HURT! Not that poisonous, but many people here are allergic to them and can die from shock. They also bite; they are plant eaters in the spring and they switch to being meat eaters in late summer. Nothing like cooking bacon to attract them to your camp site. We also have what people call hornets here that are really wasps. They build large multi layered paper condo units hanging from trees and house eves. They are bad if you wander too near a nest. We also have mud wasps, but they rarely sting. They are a nuisence becasue they drag in mud and build mud nests inside walls and crevices, including chainsaw air filter covers.

I was digging a trench with the tractor one day and ran the bucket over a gound nest of wasps. Man, they were mad and went after me and I had to put the tractor in high and race away swatting the little phuckers like mad. I got stung about 8 times. The only way to deal with them is to go out at night and douse them with gas and burn them out. Not legal in this state, but nothing else works. I tried them all, including the foaming sprays and water and flares. We had bee hives and I never got stung by the honey bees. They all died of CCD though (colony collapse disorder) that is said to be caused by a virus that came from Australian bees imported into the US. We also have bumble bees, and carpenter bees but they only sting if you hit them or accidently grab them. There are African honey bees in California now too, and they build these huge hives. One sting is not that bad, but they tend to swarm and attack a lot more than European honey bees, and they have been known to sting people and pets to death.

Up there in Canada and New England, you have biting flies in summer too, eh? Those are nasty. They will not kill you, but they are bad. I have heard Aussy songs about the massive number of flies in Oz.

Eric Frei

The other day this big assed fly bit me and drew blood!

Was itchy for a few hours. Bastid!

Those ground wasps sound bad. We have yellow jackets here too, they're buggers and will attack repeatedly, sometimes only a few but they follow you around having a go. Often though, they'll quietly hang on their strip nest and you can spray them.

We got these paper wasps, not as big but heaps of them buggers in the nest and they get right pissed off and attack in strong numbers. The nests are usually in forks or under branches, grey colour, gotta keep an eye out for them but again you can get close to the nest and douse them with poison, but if they're onto you first .... run!

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Big assed flys are bad, given them the almighty table tennis type swat and as soon as they regain their senses their back for round two.

At least we don't have tse tse flies here in Australia, that would be bad

One time working with a previous boss, he announces casually at lunch conversation that he's allergic to bees.

Me being me splurts out " what the phuck! I hope you bought your straw!!!, I,ve been mowing with you for months and you didn't tell me that you had a bee allergy, for phuck's sake.......... OOps

Will have to put that one under "ten of the best conversations had with a boss" stamp.

I don't normally swear but of all the idiot things to have a bee allergy and not to tell your mates or wear a Medical alert bracelet?

Julie

Husky man

a few yrs back now i found a massive wasp nest at the front of our tool shed at work so i decided 2 fry them with a can of deoderent and a ciggarette lighter it worked pretty well but a few got really pissed off ive never legged it that fast in my life.

Jeff Darby

I thought it was apropriate to add this link to one of our lost country singer legend..onya..Slim..YouTube - Redback on the toilet seat

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jmcg.insight.gardens

Good song that one. I actually know someone whom that happened to.

Imagine her embarrassment when the Doctor asked her "now where did you get bitten?

Must be a coincidence but that was up at Upper Five Day Creek via Comara out fo Kempsey, out near Nulla Nulla.

Apparently an extremely painful experience.

windthrown

Your boss should carry an epi pen with him.

What does 'bought your straw' mean in non-Aussy English?

Garry Brockley

home made tracheostmy bic pen then a straw to breath through.

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jmcg.insight.gardens

thanks Galbee, good explanation.

At the time a bic pen and a straw would,nt have been necessarily available,

here,s my mind imagining having to using the mower fuel line or something.....

My father always said I had an over active imagination.

But the point was, surely, if you knew you had a severe reaction to bees, why would you put yourself in the front line? Wouldn't it be prudent to tell your work mates or employees you had an allergy, wear a bracelet (medi-alert) and have an epi pen? Or at least a straw in your lunch box.

I've lost count of how many times I've been stung by something.

Well I don't work for him anymore, that was a while ago. He was the nicest bloke but his wife was a b.......

Julie

windthrown

Eeeeee..... Epi pens are far better. You can inject yourself as well. No one else needed. Jab yourself in the thigh. You hit the jugular with a tracheotomy attempt and they will bleed to death on you and very fast. You can also easilly take out someone's voice box that way, and/or wind up with a collapsed lung or lungs.

EpiPens come in 0.3 mg and 0.15 mg doses of epinephrine (a variant form of adrenalin). They can be auto-injected and are indicated for emergency treatment of allergic reactions (anaphylaxis) for people with a history of an anaphylactic reaction to stings (bees, wasps and more recently here in the states, fire ants), foods (peanut reactions are the most common), and contact reactions to certain products like latex. This medication reverses the allergic reaction, at least temporarily, to provide the time needed to get further treatment at a medical facility. Anyone with a severe allergy should have a pair of EpiPens or equivalent on their person at all times, especially when in an environment where they are exposed to whatever it is that they are highly allergic to. Like bee hunting out there in the wild.

My ex was allergic to tic bites. For some reason they never bothered me, but we had to do a full body check on her any time that she was out in the woods. They just loved her to death. If bitten, she would get a hystamine reaction and swell up, especially around the bite location. I had to give her Benadryl and treat the bite location with Cortisone cream. Otherwise she would swell up with a golf ball size skin reaction. She is also highly allergic to poison oak, and she has acres of that stuff on her property. I asked her several times why she chose to live in a place that she is so highly allergic to... *sigh*

dov

Talking about european wasps I took out a nest yesterday. Between the bloody walls of a house full of Nepalese students I look after. Never know who is allergic so I just gave them a few horror stories and a reminder of the Aussie emergency number to keep them out of harms reach until I got the wasp poison.

A few tiny holes through the wall into the nest and a can of poison later, hey presto! Lots of dead yellow things all over the place.

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