Palm Cleaning death

Eric Frei

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Tree trimmer suffocated to death while working in palm tree | Phoenix News | Arizona News | azfamily.com | Phoenix News

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second-gen_monkey

feel you on the dates, i reciently took about 1/2 inch of date thorn to the kneecap through leathers. i tripped after getting out of the lift and it was at just the right angle to get me. all palms blow imo. they are messy, dangerous and in most cases (i admit to liking the cuban royal and only the cuban royal) ugly. oh and the litteral poo in the boot just sucks. i hate coming out of a lift smelling like rodent filth.

i've never put myself in a position where i'm pinned to the tree if a frond comes down and even on a ladder i never climb under dead fronds, ever. i'd rather take hand clippers or a hand saw and carve a path in. i guess it happens more often than i can immagine but it seems like a pretty stupid way to die, burying yourself in palm fronds.

KevinE

In a dry climate, I'd plant lots of different Cannas; yellows, pinks, yellow with red spots on the petals, yellow & red like a flame, large orange with burgundy foliage, small delicate orange with very tall foliage, large red with green foliage, the list goes on & on use a liquid potash such as "Bass'" to produce the most flowers & stay away from anything high in nitrogen.

Variegated ginger also helps with that "tropical" feel in a dry area; feed them with "power feed" & you'll get what you want

Elephant's ears (green or black), Philodendron & Monstera are also great around a pool, as are Oyster Plant.

The Majestic palms are VERY slow growing in dry areas (I've had one for 12 years & it's still only growing out around 50cm from the ground!)

Duranta "Geisha Girl" or selenium (potato bush) are also winners!

Pink "watsonias" are great in winter, as are "gladiolus"

There's plenty of stuff to try, not just palms lol!

Apocalypsse

Or give the new fashion thing a try, metal palms! They're popping up everywhere.

Rob Chace

i astounded by the numbe rof "professional" tre services here that dont know about top down pruning and get their climbers to go about it with spurs and fliplines... :/

I have never done it from bottom up but it MUST be harder than top down anyway right?

Ted

Palm trees can be very deadly and if you retain someone and someones helper to do a deadly job, the results are not good. Most palms like this one in SW Florida are left for nature to trim. I would only use a bucket to trim a palm like this. Also the placement of said palm is a disaster waiting to happen. Kinda like Landscapers continuing to plant trees under utility lines every day I see it and sooner than later disaster happens. It is so unneeded. What a waste.

Eric Frei

Close call in Mesa Arizona

Man Rescued from Palm Tree in Mesa

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Hard-as-Stihl

srt is a must do fr these trees. im sorry for sounding racist(im not) but it seems like most of these accidents are mexican or ethnic climbers who only know how to use spikes and a lanyard. people call me crazy for SRTing up a really dirt coconut palm with a bad skirt. they have no idea how dangerous palm skirts can be here. total lack of safety. these guys dont even wear helmets for working aloft. WTF????

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Rob Chace

??? I was of the understanding that SRT is the "correct" method - anyone know the truth?

Victor Lindsay

I use the Ddrt with an adjustable false croch, (omni block). Both Ddrt & srt work well, and will allow you to work the skirt from the top down.

The ANSI Z133.1, 9.2.6 states that you use a climbing line and false croch, and never position yourself under the skirt while being supported by a lanyard.

Hard-as-Stihl

yup yup. i use the same setup some times. i use a CMI block thats attatched to a quick link it goes over the crown.

heres a paint diagram.

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Eric Frei

I do not get it why you Yanks like those pieces of shit and them bloody Queen palms, all trash frankly.

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redmower

Nice drawing Hard-as

I'm going to run with your spelling from now on too. pully I think it's better than the original

Like your good work, It sells well here with my mob.

As for palm skirts in town - we have these big white headed wasps that just love them. They have a seriously painful sting so I won't touch a big skirt without a cherry picker. Chicken climbing you may call it.

RM

Hard-as-Stihl

yeah eric. i side with the aussies on this one. those palms are crap. i just dont understand why people plant them just to have them removed in 20 years. washies are high maintenance along with coconut, cocos, fishtails, palmettos.

meh..queens are alright. but they are soo bloody lop sidded here on the islands. we get like 15-20mph trade winds everyday and they are just not very wind tolerant. they just dont grow right with alot of wind.

coconut palms get trimmed every 4-6 months here. so they are a good bit of money for us. we often get large hotels that have over 50 palms to be trimmed and at $50 a pal its a good bit of money. im a palm boy, ill admit it.

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Victor Lindsay

They are a good income...long live the all palms. Every time i remove one, I lose that yearly income. Palm cleaning makes up about %80 of a tree companys income here in the Florida Keys. those palms!

TrevMcRev

Then you guys need to be using this one.. instead of

Me, I hate em!

Victor Lindsay

Hard-as-Stihl

i know this is an old thread but i thought it was worth re visiting. i was cleaning a 80 foot coconut palm today spikeless with a platform and got stuck in 40 MPH gusts. i had to brace for dear life as the palm swayed 6 feet side to side. i was thinking, dang if i was on spikes and a lanyard id surely gaffed out and went for a slide. another reason why spikeless is the way to go.

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Rob Chace

gaffed out maybe... but you would still be backed up with a climbing line and a descender(or similar) right?

Hard-as-Stihl

nope, takes too much time. spikes and lanyard then descend with climbing line. when climbing up there is no secondary attachment , its just lanyard.

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Hard-as-Stihl

hahaha its sooo funny were just talking about this yesterday. my buddy from a church calls me up today asking if id volunteer to take the skirts off 2 washingtonia filifera palms, no clean up just chop and drop. i agreed to do it for free. now im thinking, what the heck did i get myself into this time. oh well, i guess its not so bad since its serving the most high god.

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