Falling tree kills Arborist in Tasmania.

Alby · 19th August 2010, 09:35 AM

For those wanting to help out the ISA have a link where you can donate to Scotts family

http://tinyurl.com/28m8lnz

Sunraysia Tree Solutions · 20th August 2010, 10:50 AM

I urge those of you that can afford to, to donate to the trust for scotts family, for those of you in melbourne there will be a fund raising evening in ivanhoe on the 7th of September, more details on the VTIO website.

Scott gave his knowledge unselfishly and never ever judged no matter what level a persons knowledge. I hope we can do the same.

He will be sorely missed

RIP

treeshaveneeds · 20th August 2010, 03:03 PM

Good solid advice Ekka !

trev54 · 12th May 2011, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Frei

Something sounds fishy for sure.

I personally cant fathom why you say something fishy for sure.
I was there when it happened and subject to a coronial enquiry i cannot comment but some people should not make comments about something they dont know about. I was one of the people whom performed cpr on the gentleman and that has left an impact on me for the rest of my life .

Jeff Darby · 12th May 2011, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trev54

I personally cant fathom why you say something fishy for sure.
I was there when it happened and subject to a coronial enquiry i cannot comment but some people should not make comments about something they dont know about. I was one of the people whom performed cpr on the gentleman and that has left an impact on me for the rest of my life .

As you were on site when this happened maybe you should have refrained from making any comment until after the enquiry. Eric is entitled to his opinion. It is a shame this man was accidentally killed.

Here is the definition of accident...

"an undesirable or unfortunate happening that occurs unintentionally and usually results in harm, injury, damage, or loss"

In this case the "loss" was this mans life, which was an unfortunate accident.

R.I.P Scott Sharpe.

trev54 · 12th May 2011, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayD

As you were on site when this happened maybe you should have refrained from making any comment until after the enquiry. Eric is entitled to his opinion. It is a shame this man was accidentally killed.

Here is the definition of accident...

"an undesirable or unfortunate happening that occurs unintentionally and usually results in harm, injury, damage, or loss"

In this case the "loss" was this mans life, which was an unfortunate accident.

R.I.P Scott Sharpe.

as stated i did not make any comments regarding the accident so please do not accuse me of saying anything i shouldnt have as you said everyone is entitled to their opinion and the SOMETHING FISHY is not an opinion but a accusation

Jeff Darby · 12th May 2011, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trev54

as stated i did not make any comments regarding the accident so please do not accuse me of saying anything i shouldnt have as you said everyone is entitled to their opinion and the "SOMETHING FISHY is not an opinion but a accusation"

It all comes down to how one perceives the comment. We have a man dead because some thing went wrong, this is fact. How some thing went wrong is the question. Shall we leave it here until after the enquiry is over? Then the facts will be on the table.

trev54 · 13th May 2011, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayD

It all comes down to how one perceives the comment. We have a man dead because some thing went wrong, this is fact. How some thing went wrong is the question. Shall we leave it here until after the enquiry is over? Then the facts will be on the table.

I do apologize if i said something wrong.I probably did perceive the comment in the wrong context.
If i have offended anybody i am sorry it was just the way the heading was put.The worst part about the whole thing is that i had first met Scott only 2 hours before it happened and to see a young man cut down in the prime of his life is hard to to fathom.
R.I.P Scott

Eric Frei · 13th May 2011, 09:55 AM

Something fishy means that if everything was done correctly and this was the end result then something is not right.

Could even be gear failure, exceeded SWL's etc. The facts will come out but I do not buy it that a death resulted from doing everything by the book, or perhaps there was a grey area which books do not cover and the necessary level of expertise including calculating subject forces was overlooked.

To simply write off this mans death as an accident over his reputation will not fly for most with some analytical and critical thinking skills.

Jeff Darby · 13th May 2011, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trev54

I do apologize if i said something wrong.I probably did perceive the comment in the wrong context.
If i have offended anybody i am sorry it was just the way the heading was put.The worst part about the whole thing is that i had first met Scott only 2 hours before it happened and to see a young man cut down in the prime of his life is hard to to fathom.
R.I.P Scott

All at Treeworld understand the tragic loss involved in this accident, I call it an accident as I do not know the facts that controlled this event.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Frei

Something fishy means that if everything was done correctly and this was the end result then something is not right.

Could even be gear failure, exceeded SWL's etc. The facts will come out but I do not buy it that a death resulted from doing everything by the book, or perhaps there was a grey area which books do not cover and the necessary level of expertise including calculating subject forces was overlooked.

To simply write off this mans death as an accident over his reputation will not fly for most with some analytical and critical thinking skills.

Fact is, we need to know how this happened, so we can prevent it happening again. Treeworld is a medium that can help in this process. We have assisted in people getting to the botom of tragic accidents before, as seen in this thread.. Falling Palm Tree Kills 4yr. Old| Ekka makes news comment analyzing the facts will bring clarity to the circumstances that unfolded on this day.

One thing comes to mind about the enquiry, will the investigators have enough training in our field to access the situation with out resorting to a translated interpretation which could lead to a finding that may be intentionally or unintentionally bias?

Eric Frei · 13th May 2011, 09:08 PM

We're talking Tasmania, the backbone of forestry and huge trees. Their OHS investigators have very good industry experience, could even be ex-industry people .... they know what to look for.

I have no doubt all parties know the high profile of this case and the media exposure it has received so far.

metzler · 16th May 2011, 11:42 AM

my deepest sympathy and regards to his family, friends and loved ones.
from how everyone spoke about him, he sounded like a great person and a dedicated marter to the study of arboriculture, this is truly sad news and a loss to the industry and world.

r.i.p scott, you will be missed.

still think it would be educational to hear the details on how this tragic accident took place.

Eric Frei · 16th May 2011, 11:47 AM

If we do not learn from our accidents then we are destined to repeat them.

trev54 · 16th May 2011, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric Frei

If we do not learn from our accidents then we are destined to repeat them.

So true Eric.
Hopefully everything will be clarified at the inquest whenever that is .
It has been several months now and nothing has happened .

Eric Frei · 16th May 2011, 06:27 PM

It can take years. That Port Douglas one took 2 years.

19th August 2010, 09:35 AM	#31
Alby Sappling Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tasmania Posts: 26	Re: Falling tree kills Arborist in Tasmania. For those wanting to help out the ISA have a link where you can donate to Scotts family http://tinyurl.com/28m8lnz Last edited by Eric Frei; 19th August 2010 at 06:11 PM. Reason: edited link

20th August 2010, 10:50 AM	#32
Sunraysia Tree Solutions Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mildura Posts: 111	Re: Falling tree kills Arborist in Tasmania. I urge those of you that can afford to, to donate to the trust for scotts family, for those of you in melbourne there will be a fund raising evening in ivanhoe on the 7th of September, more details on the VTIO website. Scott gave his knowledge unselfishly and never ever judged no matter what level a persons knowledge. I hope we can do the same. He will be sorely missed RIP

20th August 2010, 03:03 PM	#33
treeshaveneeds Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,399	Re: Falling tree kills Arborist in Tasmania. Good solid advice Ekka !

13th May 2011, 09:55 AM	#39
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Falling tree kills Arborist in Tasmania. Something fishy means that if everything was done correctly and this was the end result then something is not right. Could even be gear failure, exceeded SWL's etc. The facts will come out but I do not buy it that a death resulted from doing everything by the book, or perhaps there was a grey area which books do not cover and the necessary level of expertise including calculating subject forces was overlooked. To simply write off this mans death as an accident over his reputation will not fly for most with some analytical and critical thinking skills. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

13th May 2011, 09:08 PM	#41
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Falling tree kills Arborist in Tasmania. We're talking Tasmania, the backbone of forestry and huge trees. Their OHS investigators have very good industry experience, could even be ex-industry people .... they know what to look for. I have no doubt all parties know the high profile of this case and the media exposure it has received so far. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

16th May 2011, 11:42 AM	#42
metzler Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: eugene oregon Posts: 89	Re: Falling tree kills Arborist in Tasmania. my deepest sympathy and regards to his family, friends and loved ones. from how everyone spoke about him, he sounded like a great person and a dedicated marter to the study of arboriculture, this is truly sad news and a loss to the industry and world. r.i.p scott, you will be missed. still think it would be educational to hear the details on how this tragic accident took place.

16th May 2011, 11:47 AM	#43
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Falling tree kills Arborist in Tasmania. If we do not learn from our accidents then we are destined to repeat them. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

16th May 2011, 06:27 PM	#45
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Falling tree kills Arborist in Tasmania. It can take years. That Port Douglas one took 2 years. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

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