URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP

JohN Dee · 26th October 2009, 01:00 PM

Just need to ID this Eucalyptus's species asap, got a report due on it tonight, photos are below, sorry about lack of details in the photos.

JohN Dee · 26th October 2009, 02:10 PM

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Eric Frei · 26th October 2009, 05:07 PM

It's the time of year they are shedding bark, makes it tougher.

No caps eh.

JohN Dee · 26th October 2009, 05:17 PM

Nah, none that I could find... Leaving in 15, just putting on the finishing touches, just going to have go with Eucalyptus spp. and hope I don't get scrutinized too much in the preliminary... Got a week for the final.. Hopefully by then I will have it ID'd

Eric Frei · 26th October 2009, 05:24 PM

Probably one of the box type ones, you know, gum topped box, yellow box etc.

Bernard Keays · 26th October 2009, 10:33 PM

John,

I have know idea.

Do you get Eucalyptus viminalis var cygnetensis or Eucalytus albens in your area?

Failing this I would try Dean.

Curriculum Vitae Dean Nicolle

TrevMcRev · 26th October 2009, 11:38 PM

Sorry mate, not something i recognise from down south by the pics.

Sean Freeman · 26th October 2009, 11:48 PM

Without fruit pretty hard, even for Dean Nicolle.

Drouin Tree Service · 27th October 2009, 07:16 AM

peppermint narrow leaf

kiwi_tree_steve · 27th October 2009, 04:57 PM

I got no idea mate...

keen to catch a glimpse of that report tho

PTC · 27th October 2009, 06:09 PM

if its in western sydney, try E. mollucanna

PTC · 27th October 2009, 06:10 PM

sorry, E. moluccana (grey box)

Cole · 27th October 2009, 06:55 PM

maybe some species of angophra ? i would guess a Eucalyptus saligna Sydney blue gum due mainly to the trees bark type , habit and general form.. My next guess is not a Euc. at all but an Angophora. possibly costata due again to the trees growth habit, bark persistance and most importantly what appears to be a parralell leaf venation seen in the image

Cole · 27th October 2009, 07:13 PM

im probly wrong but i think we definetly need to find out what it is just for our own sanity hahah.

MrDiesel · 27th October 2009, 07:35 PM

Is the leaf aromatic? Im thinking the same as PTC ie grey box.

JohN Dee · 28th October 2009, 04:33 PM

Nah, not grey box - definately. Many other in the park... This brown sock cover the WHOLE tree to the tips of the branches... Not angophora as the leaves aren't opposite..

Will have to go back and scower for fruit..., Failing that I will climb the tree to try and find some... Um, one question though, anyone ever climb a tree home to a swooping magpie? Is he gunna try and swoop me whilst aloft?

Jeff Darby · 28th October 2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JohN Dee

Nah, not grey box - definately. Many other in the park... This brown sock cover the WHOLE tree to the tips of the branches... Not angophora as the leaves aren't opposite..

Will have to go back and scower for fruit..., Failing that I will climb the tree to try and find some... Um, one question though, anyone ever climb a tree home to a swooping magpie? Is he gunna try and swoop me whilst aloft?

lol...what are you going to do if some big ugly bugger comes through your window un invited..??

just do like you did while taking your pictures...wear your helmet & ppe you'll be ok..

actually I think their protected so while their nesting you wont be able to climb it..???

Farawaytree · 28th October 2009, 07:08 PM

I will look forward to the ID, JohN Dee
Not a Peppermint.
Farawaytree.

Bernard Keays · 28th October 2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JohN Dee

Nah, not grey box - definately. :

John,

Just curious... Why do you think its not a gum topped box E.moluccana?

JohN Dee · 29th October 2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bernard Keays

John,

Just curious... Why do you think its not a gum topped box E.moluccana?

Because the park is full of them, and I know the E.moluccana very very well. It would have to easily be number 1 on my most removed eucs'.

Bernard Keays · 29th October 2009, 10:23 PM

John,

It didn't occur to me that it was a gum topped box either. I thought the bark had a bronzy tinge to it. Ours are more off white/grey in colour unless. I thought their might have been some distingishing feature...

Do you think it was planted? Or could it be a remanent tree?

JohN Dee · 1st November 2009, 10:14 AM

I'm pretty sure they're remnants... Yeah it does have a bronzy tinge, all over it to its branch tips... molucanna tends to be grey and then eventually smooths out in the bark and is more a whitey colour towards the branch ends...

Jeff Darby · 1st November 2009, 10:22 AM

have you researched remnant species to the cumberland plains..? to be specific the blacktown area..? because trees of that size would be remnant imo.

JohN Dee · 1st November 2009, 01:34 PM

It's not a Eucalyptus bosistoana is it?

letigre · 1st November 2009, 01:39 PM

climb the tree ya sissy. magpies are the least of your worries. possums koalas goannas and snakes maybe but def not maggies.

jmcg.insight.gardens · 3rd November 2009, 10:37 AM

Hi there Johndee,

a tricky one indeed.

Definately box bark.

The key is that it has rough bark persistent to the smaller branches? Perhaps the colouring is due to that it is Decorticating? noticed that many species change colour at that time and then return to gray or white.

Two species in the region with bark to the upper branches, namely Eucalyptus quadranulata and Eucalyptus bosistoana. But obviously can't be certain of any Ident. without the fruit.

A useful link with the first hand knowledge you have might be :
NSW eucalypts

So back you go and scrabble around under that tree and perhaps if your worried about the maggies you could paint some eyes on the top of your hard hat.

Seriously best of luck, Eucalyptus are a pain in the .... to Ident.
Regards Julie

Steve Tipton · 4th November 2009, 08:16 PM

How did you go with this John?

PTC · 4th November 2009, 08:22 PM

E. bosistoana

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bark smooth grey or white on upper trunk and limbs

from field guide to native plants of sydney

robert · 24th November 2009, 06:37 PM

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eucalytis vimanalus
forsest mana gum it looks like

jmcg.insight.gardens · 24th November 2009, 10:59 PM

Was that you I saw on the news John Dee.???

What was it, Australian of the Year or nominated?

Come on don't be shy. Can't be too many John Dee's that plant trees can there?

if it was you,???? congratulations

regards Julie

26th October 2009, 01:00 PM	#1
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26th October 2009, 02:10 PM	#2
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26th October 2009, 05:07 PM	#3
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP It's the time of year they are shedding bark, makes it tougher. No caps eh. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

26th October 2009, 05:17 PM	#4
JohN Dee Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Climbing around the world Posts: 848	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP Nah, none that I could find... Leaving in 15, just putting on the finishing touches, just going to have go with Eucalyptus spp. and hope I don't get scrutinized too much in the preliminary... Got a week for the final.. Hopefully by then I will have it ID'd __________________ We are what we repeatedly do... Excellence then, is not an act, but HABIT... Red : Green : Blue

26th October 2009, 05:24 PM	#5
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP Probably one of the box type ones, you know, gum topped box, yellow box etc. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

26th October 2009, 10:33 PM	#6
Bernard Keays Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Glasshouse Posts: 193	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP John, I have know idea. Do you get Eucalyptus viminalis var cygnetensis or Eucalytus albens in your area? Failing this I would try Dean. Curriculum Vitae Dean Nicolle __________________ Bernie

26th October 2009, 11:38 PM	#7
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,594	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP Sorry mate, not something i recognise from down south by the pics.

26th October 2009, 11:48 PM	#8
Sean Freeman Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,981	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP Without fruit pretty hard, even for Dean Nicolle.

27th October 2009, 07:16 AM	#9
Drouin Tree Service Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,727	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP peppermint narrow leaf __________________ Drouin Tree Services \| Excavator Hire - Drouin and SE Gippsland \| Landclearing Melbourne

27th October 2009, 04:57 PM	#10
kiwi_tree_steve Mature tree Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: BC. Canada Posts: 324	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP I got no idea mate... keen to catch a glimpse of that report tho __________________ "You have to feel and touch a tree" Shigo

27th October 2009, 06:09 PM	#11
PTC Sappling Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 33	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP if its in western sydney, try E. mollucanna

27th October 2009, 06:10 PM	#12
PTC Sappling Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 33	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP sorry, E. moluccana (grey box)

27th October 2009, 06:55 PM	#13
Cole Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canberra Posts: 214	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP maybe some species of angophra ? i would guess a Eucalyptus saligna Sydney blue gum due mainly to the trees bark type , habit and general form.. My next guess is not a Euc. at all but an Angophora. possibly costata due again to the trees growth habit, bark persistance and most importantly what appears to be a parralell leaf venation seen in the image

27th October 2009, 07:13 PM	#14
Cole Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canberra Posts: 214	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP im probly wrong but i think we definetly need to find out what it is just for our own sanity hahah.

27th October 2009, 07:35 PM	#15
MrDiesel Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: here Posts: 192	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP Is the leaf aromatic? Im thinking the same as PTC ie grey box.

28th October 2009, 04:33 PM	#16
JohN Dee Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Climbing around the world Posts: 848	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP Nah, not grey box - definately. Many other in the park... This brown sock cover the WHOLE tree to the tips of the branches... Not angophora as the leaves aren't opposite.. Will have to go back and scower for fruit..., Failing that I will climb the tree to try and find some... Um, one question though, anyone ever climb a tree home to a swooping magpie? Is he gunna try and swoop me whilst aloft? __________________ We are what we repeatedly do... Excellence then, is not an act, but HABIT... Red : Green : Blue

28th October 2009, 07:08 PM	#18
Farawaytree Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mirboo North Posts: 52	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP I will look forward to the ID, JohN Dee Not a Peppermint. Farawaytree.

29th October 2009, 10:23 PM	#21
Bernard Keays Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Glasshouse Posts: 193	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP John, It didn't occur to me that it was a gum topped box either. I thought the bark had a bronzy tinge to it. Ours are more off white/grey in colour unless. I thought their might have been some distingishing feature... Do you think it was planted? Or could it be a remanent tree? __________________ Bernie

1st November 2009, 10:14 AM	#22
JohN Dee Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Climbing around the world Posts: 848	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP I'm pretty sure they're remnants... Yeah it does have a bronzy tinge, all over it to its branch tips... molucanna tends to be grey and then eventually smooths out in the bark and is more a whitey colour towards the branch ends... __________________ We are what we repeatedly do... Excellence then, is not an act, but HABIT... Red : Green : Blue

1st November 2009, 10:22 AM	#23
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,059	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP have you researched remnant species to the cumberland plains..? to be specific the blacktown area..? because trees of that size would be remnant imo. __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

1st November 2009, 01:34 PM	#24
JohN Dee Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Climbing around the world Posts: 848	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP It's not a Eucalyptus bosistoana is it? __________________ We are what we repeatedly do... Excellence then, is not an act, but HABIT... Red : Green : Blue

1st November 2009, 01:39 PM	#25
letigre Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 157	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP climb the tree ya sissy. magpies are the least of your worries. possums koalas goannas and snakes maybe but def not maggies. __________________ sticks before chicks

3rd November 2009, 10:37 AM	#26
jmcg.insight.gardens Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Mannering Park, Australia Posts: 623	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP Hi there Johndee, a tricky one indeed. Definately box bark. The key is that it has rough bark persistent to the smaller branches? Perhaps the colouring is due to that it is Decorticating? noticed that many species change colour at that time and then return to gray or white. Two species in the region with bark to the upper branches, namely Eucalyptus quadranulata and Eucalyptus bosistoana. But obviously can't be certain of any Ident. without the fruit. A useful link with the first hand knowledge you have might be : NSW eucalypts So back you go and scrabble around under that tree and perhaps if your worried about the maggies you could paint some eyes on the top of your hard hat. Seriously best of luck, Eucalyptus are a pain in the .... to Ident. Regards Julie

4th November 2009, 08:16 PM	#27
Steve Tipton Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 821	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP How did you go with this John? __________________ Heightmaster

24th November 2009, 10:59 PM	#30
jmcg.insight.gardens Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Mannering Park, Australia Posts: 623	Re: URGENT! Need to ID this Eucalypt' ASAP Was that you I saw on the news John Dee.??? What was it, Australian of the Year or nominated? Come on don't be shy. Can't be too many John Dee's that plant trees can there? if it was you,???? congratulations regards Julie

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