Palm Species in Wolf's Guenon Photo Reference

wildlifeartist · 17th August 2009, 06:29 PM

Wolf's guenon (Cercopithecus wolfi) in palms. I took this photo in a fantastic mixed species zoo exhibit featuring the Wolf's guenon and the much larger and critically endangered drill (Mandrillus leucophaeus). I'm wondering if anyone might give me some insight as to palm species. The Wolf's guenon is native to central Africa, from DRC to Uganda. I like the concept for a painting, but these palms in my photo reference might not be the most authentic choice for a depiction of the Wolf's. Any clarification would be helpful. I'd hate to do the painting, only to be told later that-- while the monkey is indeed authentically African-- the palms are definitely Nicaraguan.

kiwi_tree_steve · 17th August 2009, 06:54 PM

looks like a washingtonia to me

Washingtonia robusta Mexican Washingtonia or Southern Washingtonia.

Tree to 25 m tall; leaves smaller, with petiole up to 1 m long, and leaflets up to 1 m long. Inflorescence to 3 m long; flowers pale orange-pink; fruit spherical. native to Northwest Mexico.

or

Washingtonia filifera California Washingtonia, Northern Washingtonia, California fan palm, or Desert fan palm.

Tree to 23 m tall; leaves large, with petiole up to 2 m long, and leaflets up to 2 m long. Inflorescence to 5 m long; flowers white; fruit oval.
native to Southwestern USA

commonly cultivated across the United States, the Middle East, and southern Europe

steve

kiwi_tree_steve · 17th August 2009, 06:55 PM

Prity sure its a Robusta looking again.

wildlifeartist · 17th August 2009, 07:37 PM

Thanks so much! When I said Nicaragua, I wasn't too far off the mark!! I suppose I'll have to go back to the drawing board on this concept: certainly doesn't work as a Wolf's guenon picture. I could possibly transform the fronds in the painting to look like a Congo Basin palm (species?)-- though fudging that sort of thing usually does not work. I appreciate your help with this.

Eric Frei · 17th August 2009, 08:25 PM

I'm not 100% sure it is washintonea yet.

Need to see a pic at a distance, the frond doesn't look right to me.

Could be a livistona ... need more shots

wildlifeartist · 17th August 2009, 08:56 PM

Thanks so much-- I am attaching two more shots in the series.

kiwi_tree_steve · 17th August 2009, 08:58 PM

You'd prob have a better idea Ekka, just putin my guess (

) out there

Eric Frei · 17th August 2009, 09:00 PM

Definately not Washintonia

Could even be windmill palm, we need to see an overall shot including size, trunk etc.

Windmill palm

wildlifeartist · 17th August 2009, 09:17 PM

Thanks again-- here's a long shot showing the trunk.

kiwi_tree_steve · 17th August 2009, 09:19 PM

your right ekka, Livistona rotundifolia i rekon now

kiwi_tree_steve · 17th August 2009, 09:21 PM

17th August 2009, 06:29 PM	#1
wildlifeartist I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 4	Palm Species in Wolf's Guenon Photo Reference Wolf's guenon (Cercopithecus wolfi) in palms. I took this photo in a fantastic mixed species zoo exhibit featuring the Wolf's guenon and the much larger and critically endangered drill (Mandrillus leucophaeus). I'm wondering if anyone might give me some insight as to palm species. The Wolf's guenon is native to central Africa, from DRC to Uganda. I like the concept for a painting, but these palms in my photo reference might not be the most authentic choice for a depiction of the Wolf's. Any clarification would be helpful. I'd hate to do the painting, only to be told later that-- while the monkey is indeed authentically African-- the palms are definitely Nicaraguan. Attached Thumbnails

17th August 2009, 06:54 PM	#2
kiwi_tree_steve Mature tree Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: BC. Canada Posts: 325	Re: Palm Species in Wolf's Guenon Photo Reference looks like a washingtonia to me Washingtonia robusta Mexican Washingtonia or Southern Washingtonia. Tree to 25 m tall; leaves smaller, with petiole up to 1 m long, and leaflets up to 1 m long. Inflorescence to 3 m long; flowers pale orange-pink; fruit spherical. native to Northwest Mexico. or Washingtonia filifera California Washingtonia, Northern Washingtonia, California fan palm, or Desert fan palm. Tree to 23 m tall; leaves large, with petiole up to 2 m long, and leaflets up to 2 m long. Inflorescence to 5 m long; flowers white; fruit oval. native to Southwestern USA commonly cultivated across the United States, the Middle East, and southern Europe steve __________________ "You have to feel and touch a tree" Shigo

17th August 2009, 06:55 PM	#3
kiwi_tree_steve Mature tree Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: BC. Canada Posts: 325	Re: Palm Species in Wolf's Guenon Photo Reference Prity sure its a Robusta looking again. __________________ "You have to feel and touch a tree" Shigo

17th August 2009, 07:37 PM	#4
wildlifeartist I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 4	Re: Palm Species in Wolf's Guenon Photo Reference Thanks so much! When I said Nicaragua, I wasn't too far off the mark!! I suppose I'll have to go back to the drawing board on this concept: certainly doesn't work as a Wolf's guenon picture. I could possibly transform the fronds in the painting to look like a Congo Basin palm (species?)-- though fudging that sort of thing usually does not work. I appreciate your help with this.

17th August 2009, 08:25 PM	#5
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,814	Re: Palm Species in Wolf's Guenon Photo Reference I'm not 100% sure it is washintonea yet. Need to see a pic at a distance, the frond doesn't look right to me. Could be a livistona ... need more shots __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

17th August 2009, 08:56 PM	#6
wildlifeartist I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 4	Re: Palm Species in Wolf's Guenon Photo Reference Thanks so much-- I am attaching two more shots in the series. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Jeff Darby; 19th August 2009 at 11:50 PM. Reason: resize pictures/embed

17th August 2009, 08:58 PM	#7
kiwi_tree_steve Mature tree Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: BC. Canada Posts: 325	Re: Palm Species in Wolf's Guenon Photo Reference You'd prob have a better idea Ekka, just putin my guess () out there __________________ "You have to feel and touch a tree" Shigo

17th August 2009, 09:00 PM	#8
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,814	Re: Palm Species in Wolf's Guenon Photo Reference Definately not Washintonia Could even be windmill palm, we need to see an overall shot including size, trunk etc. Windmill palm Attached Thumbnails __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

17th August 2009, 09:17 PM	#9
wildlifeartist I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 4	Re: Palm Species in Wolf's Guenon Photo Reference Thanks again-- here's a long shot showing the trunk. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Jeff Darby; 19th August 2009 at 11:54 PM. Reason: resize picture/embed

17th August 2009, 09:19 PM	#10
kiwi_tree_steve Mature tree Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: BC. Canada Posts: 325	Re: Palm Species in Wolf's Guenon Photo Reference your right ekka, Livistona rotundifolia i rekon now __________________ "You have to feel and touch a tree" Shigo

17th August 2009, 09:21 PM	#11
kiwi_tree_steve Mature tree Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: BC. Canada Posts: 325	Re: Palm Species in Wolf's Guenon Photo Reference Attached Thumbnails __________________ "You have to feel and touch a tree" Shigo

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