new house, need tree info

demongt

just bought a new home and there are some tree's in the yard i can not identify.

there are two quite close to the house, so i want to know what they are and how big they are going to get.

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Brent Ferris

It looks like a variety of Willow (Salix sp). Can't be sure from leaf pics what variety. Need a pic of two - 3 leafs on a white background, a clear pic of the branch bark and the stem bark, and some idea of scale. Someone else might be able to nail it down better, but there are a lot of species of willow.

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demongt

here are some more pics to help id these tree's

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Brent Ferris

Apparently there are 7 willow tree species and 17 willow shrub species in Wisconsin, but it is most likely Salix alba White Willow - having alternate lanceolate leaves,1 1/2" to 4" long, 1/4 to 5/8" wide, petioles 1/4 to 1/2 inch long, bright green above, glaucous (whitish) beneath, and there should be small glands on the petiole,

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demongt

so how big should they get? im worried about the roots growing into the foundation of the house?

Brent Ferris

These trees generally run 75-10o ft in height with a spread of 50 to 100 ft.

Most willows like a fair bit of water. Ensure rainfall and snowmelt runs away from the house (angling the grade) and if worried install a root barrier between the tree and the house,
As long as there is no downpipe from the roof anywhere near the tree, the roots shouldn't bother the foundation, It is amazing to me how many people think the tree roots come along with a big sledgehammer and bash away at the cement wall to try and get in -- just to find there is no water.
If the foundation wall is cracked, and water is entering the basement, the roots may follow. Seal the crack, stop the water flow to the foundation and the tree roots lose interest.

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demongt

so as long as you trim the tree branches that faces the house, it shouldn't be a problem? Is there a suggested distance the tree should be planted from the house?

Leif Raukleiv

If there is a drain pipe in the ground under the tree, cut it down. Roots will easily penetrate the joints and block up the pipe. I have seen that a lot of times. Plumbers and excavators cost money...

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Eric Frei

Errr, I wouldn't count on that logic 100%.

You could install root barrier about 1.5m from the house.

What soil type do you have? A heavier clay is more prone to subsidence and here foundation standards say the tree should be 1.5X and in extreme cases 2X the height away. Imagine then a 100' high tree has to be 200' away. Solution is:-

Root barrier

Butcher the tree to keep it small and apparently willows are bad for that due to vigorous regrowth and rot.

Reinforce the foundation with piers or underpin.

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Brent Ferris

Willows do regrow quickly. I cut down a 50 ft willow for a client of mine to a 5 foot stump, the following year it looked like a big mushroom, the 2nd tree a much bigger mushroom, and after 5 years, it was back up to 50 ft. Keeping it small is an option, but trimming is a yearly requirement. A root barrier is the best option -- assuming you cannot move the tree, and don't want to get rid of it.

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demongt

what exactly is a root barrier?

Eric Frei

Frankly, anything in the ground that tree roots cannot penetrate or go under.

Often it is a sheet of special plastic 2m deep into the soil sealed at the bottom with SODIUM BENTONITIE. A barrier against roots getting closer.

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Branching Out TreeCare

first glance it looks like salix babylonica...there's heaps of them in NZ and are basically a weed invading vast stretches of river bank. I would reccommend a more user friendly species not so close to the house. They are an introduced exotic to NZ and have gone rampant having been left to grow unchecked for nearly the last century. They tend to be brittle and grow very large near water. They can blow down in high winds if not anchored sufficiently to a good soil type. Anaerobic degeneration of the root system is a factor in blow downs also. I dont have to live at your house but i'd take it out if it were me.

Brent Ferris

Salix babylonica is a nice idea, but his pics show the tree doesn't have a weeping form. I think it is Salix alba -- especially with the white undersides

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demongt

i have found the tree's in my yard to be prairie cascade willows