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| Sappling Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Redlands
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I have what I though was an ironbark. I have been told that it may have termites, but everything I have read suggests termites do not like Ironbarks. He pointed out a couple of dirt marks up the tree. The tree has the deep furrows in the bark, I have several in my yard but this one is 4.5m from my house. And if you go to near map overhangs the roof. It is about 25m tall, with a DBH of 2m. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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| Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sydney
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The pics are a bit dark to be sure, but it may be a Euc Paniculata, Grey Ironbark. Termites love em!
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| Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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Could also be:- Eucalyptus crebra Eucalyptus sideroxylon This is where you have to be careful and examine foliage and caps.
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Victoria, AUST.
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One decent pic, in focus with proper lighting and it would be much easier to tell. Can you pls take a better pic. say the bottom 3 or 4 metres of the trunk and fairly close up to it ? The distinctive channeled bark type is fairly easy to identify in our native forests in s/e Aus. Thanks |
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My money is on:- Eucalyptus sideroxylon
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Victoria, AUST.
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Better pics AprilJ, thanks ![]() Can you grasp a raised piece of the bark, or any part of the bark and tear it off the tree ? Do the raised pieces of bark feel very hard, and are almost impervious to a moderate belt with a hammer for instance ? (Don't belt hell out of it, just one moderate hit on a raised piece of bark-what happened when you did it ?) Thanks again. You say the DBH is 2Metres, do you mean the diameter at breast height is 2 metres, or the circumference ? Does is have red flowers/blossom. Last edited by bill24; 4th July 2011 at 08:40 PM. Reason: Extra Q.? |
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| Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia
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| mmm, sideroxylon bark is generally black as. Eucalyptus sideroxylon However my first thought was sideroxylon, thinking maybe cebra, but after looking at this maybe not..Botanic Gardens Trust - Eucalyptus crebra I think we need to look at the seed pods (caps) usually you can find some on the ground around the base of the tree and can you remember when it flowered what colour they were ? and back to Quintrex first observation... An Introduction to the Eucalypts I think Quintrex might just have it? just thinking aloud..
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Could even be E fibrosa Really do need to see the leaves. The two ironbarks in this picture growing next to each other are different, and it gets down to the nitty gritty to ensure you nail it exactly.
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| Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia
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I agree, we need to see more information, it's a big ask to I.D from just bark alone, I was umming and arring while I was trying to id from the bark, I think the bark is only an indicator....one of the pointers to a firm I.D. leaves, caps and flowers zero it in. I still think Quintrex might have it.here are pictures of E. fibrosa Eucalyptus fibrosa - Broad-leaved Ironbark
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Have a look at this guy too:- Eucalyptus siderophloia, click the "next" on the pictures. Now this one has a lot wider leaf than most. It's structure or form is also more sort of .... "stiff" if that's a description. Sort of grows straggly and stiff. Well that's how I explain it.Here's some of my pics. ![]()
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We do not get Euc Paniculata up here much, it's natural range ends around Coffs Harbour. This lady is in Redlands, I assume Redland Bay area Brisbane. I doubt it was a planted tree but indigenous.
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| Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia
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Dont you just love I.D when it comes to this Genus some times the littlest thing gives you the correct I.D.
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| Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia
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Redlands Bay the doorway to the islands of morton bay, very beautiful indeed. I spent some of my youth partying on those islands and redlands bay has the reddest soil i've seen. Heaps of tomatoe plantations back then..
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| Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Victoria, AUST.
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[QUOTE=AprilJ;113186]I have what I though was an ironbark. I have been told that it may have termites, but everything I have read suggests termites do not like Ironbarks. He pointed out a couple of dirt marks up the tree. The tree has the deep furrows in the bark, I have several in my yard but this one is 4.5m from my house. And if you go to near map overhangs the roof. It is about 25m tall, with a DBH of 2m. " ********* Well AprilJ, at this stage it is pretty much agreed, as per previous posts, that your tree is in fact an "IRONBARK". Re termites...they don't seem to get into ironbark very often although the large i/barks are prone to 'piping'. Perhaps that made your tree more suitable habitat for the termites. A good reference to ironbark properties is found at - http://bit.ly/kkha6Z What the gents are discussing is exactly which of the ironbarks your tree is. While your second lot of pics were pretty much 90% towards identifying your tree as as ironbark, I was asking the extra questions to cover the other 10%. Last edited by Eric Frei; 4th July 2011 at 10:16 PM. Reason: changed link |
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| Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Australia.
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| Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane
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IP address traces to Brisbane, so I reckon it is Brisbane but posters should tell us where they are when requesting ID's. If the poster could take so many pics of the trunk why not the rest of the tree, maybe a troll playing games wasting our time?READ THIS before you start a thread
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