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Old 3rd July 2011, 08:40 PM   #1
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I have what I though was an ironbark. I have been told that it may have termites, but everything I have read suggests termites do not like Ironbarks. He pointed out a couple of dirt marks up the tree.
The tree has the deep furrows in the bark, I have several in my yard but this one is 4.5m from my house. And if you go to near map overhangs the roof. It is about 25m tall, with a DBH of 2m.

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Old 3rd July 2011, 09:15 PM   #2
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The pics are a bit dark to be sure, but it may be a Euc Paniculata, Grey Ironbark.
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Old 4th July 2011, 09:11 AM   #3
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Could also be:-

Eucalyptus crebra

Eucalyptus sideroxylon

This is where you have to be careful and examine foliage and caps.
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Old 4th July 2011, 06:49 PM   #4
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One decent pic, in focus with proper lighting and it would be much easier to tell.

Can you pls take a better pic. say the bottom 3 or 4 metres of the trunk and fairly close up to it ?

The distinctive channeled bark type is fairly easy to identify in our native forests in s/e Aus.

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Old 4th July 2011, 07:10 PM   #5
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Hope these help, in the furrows it is an orange colouring
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My money is on:- Eucalyptus sideroxylon
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Old 4th July 2011, 07:59 PM   #7
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Better pics AprilJ, thanks

Can you grasp a raised piece of the bark, or any part of the bark and tear it off the tree ?

Do the raised pieces of bark feel very hard, and are almost impervious to a moderate belt with a hammer for instance ?

(Don't belt hell out of it, just one moderate hit on a raised piece of bark-what happened when you did it ?)

Thanks again.

You say the DBH is 2Metres, do you mean the diameter at breast height is 2 metres, or the circumference ?

Does is have red flowers/blossom.

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My money is on:- Eucalyptus sideroxylon
mmm, sideroxylon bark is generally black as. Eucalyptus sideroxylon

However my first thought was sideroxylon, thinking maybe cebra, but after looking at this maybe not..Botanic Gardens Trust - Eucalyptus crebra

I think we need to look at the seed pods (caps) usually you can find some on the ground around the base of the tree and can you remember when it flowered what colour they were ?

and back to Quintrex first observation... An Introduction to the Eucalypts I think Quintrex might just have it? just thinking aloud..
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Could even be E fibrosa

Really do need to see the leaves.

The two ironbarks in this picture growing next to each other are different, and it gets down to the nitty gritty to ensure you nail it exactly.

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I agree, we need to see more information, it's a big ask to I.D from just bark alone, I was umming and arring while I was trying to id from the bark, I think the bark is only an indicator....one of the pointers to a firm I.D. leaves, caps and flowers zero it in. I still think Quintrex might have it.

here are pictures of E. fibrosa

Eucalyptus fibrosa - Broad-leaved Ironbark
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Have a look at this guy too:-

Eucalyptus siderophloia, click the "next" on the pictures. Now this one has a lot wider leaf than most. It's structure or form is also more sort of .... "stiff" if that's a description. Sort of grows straggly and stiff. Well that's how I explain it.

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We do not get Euc Paniculata up here much, it's natural range ends around Coffs Harbour. This lady is in Redlands, I assume Redland Bay area Brisbane. I doubt it was a planted tree but indigenous.
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Dont you just love I.D when it comes to this Genus some times the littlest thing gives you the correct I.D.
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Redlands Bay the doorway to the islands of morton bay, very beautiful indeed. I spent some of my youth partying on those islands and redlands bay has the reddest soil i've seen. Heaps of tomatoe plantations back then..
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[QUOTE=AprilJ;113186]I have what I though was an ironbark. I have been told that it may have termites, but everything I have read suggests termites do not like Ironbarks. He pointed out a couple of dirt marks up the tree.
The tree has the deep furrows in the bark, I have several in my yard but this one is 4.5m from my house. And if you go to near map overhangs the roof. It is about 25m tall, with a DBH of 2m. "

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Well AprilJ, at this stage it is pretty much agreed, as per previous posts, that your tree is in fact an "IRONBARK".

Re termites...they don't seem to get into ironbark very often although the large i/barks are prone to 'piping'. Perhaps that made your tree more suitable habitat for the termites.

A good reference to ironbark properties is found at - http://bit.ly/kkha6Z

What the gents are discussing is exactly which of the ironbarks your tree is.

While your second lot of pics were pretty much 90% towards identifying your tree as as ironbark, I was asking the extra questions to cover the other 10%.

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This lady is in Redlands, I assume Redland Bay area Brisbane. I doubt it was a planted tree but indigenous.
Bill and I are thinking Redlands NSW, near Albury, different country down there.

Don't think it's a crebra.
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IP address traces to Brisbane, so I reckon it is Brisbane but posters should tell us where they are when requesting ID's. If the poster could take so many pics of the trunk why not the rest of the tree, maybe a troll playing games wasting our time?

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Pictures, location (country, state etc) is vital. With the pictures we like to see the entire tree, a close up of the leaf/leaves, flower, fruit, seed and bark etc. The more you give the easier to solve.
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