Help ID'ing this Eucalyptus (I think?) please..

christie · 17th July 2011, 06:10 PM

Hi,
I was just wondering if someone could please help me ID this tree, which I had assumed was a eucalypt but I have been going through exhausting amounts of info on eucalypt taxonomy and am stumped!
It was found in the mouth of the Lerderderg State Forest in Victoria, Australia.
I (stupidly) did a study of trunk circumference for a first year uni assignment and thought I had a good idea of the species but was woefully wrong and now I have heaps of data but no idea what tree it's all from!!
Any help would be hugely appreciated
- cheers Christie

Eric Frei · 17th July 2011, 07:45 PM

I have scoured my euc books and it stumps me too.

Did it have caps (fruit) like a euc?

Leaf is "sort of like" E platyphylla but the rest no way.

christie · 17th July 2011, 07:54 PM

Thanks for the reply

No caps were present which has given a great deal of trouble in ID'ing it

I am thinking its not a euc but am now at a loss with where to start as I am just starting my ecology subject and have not even touched plant taxonomy yet...

Eric Frei · 17th July 2011, 08:24 PM

Take samples to the herbarium for ID

bill24 · 17th July 2011, 10:14 PM

An unqualified laymans opinion only, but if I saw it locally in East Gippsland I have a guess, from what I can see in the pics as a common "Red Box" tree.

Darrell Mcleod · 17th July 2011, 10:25 PM

Eucalyptus polyanthemos - Red Box - I think

redmower · 17th July 2011, 10:28 PM

Christie

The photo of the leaf doesn't show how long the leaf stem really is. This may be a significant clue if it is not a Eucalypt.

Are both sides of the leaf the same color?

The photos of the bark and general tree shape are very useful to help in ID, a good habit to have. Can I suggest to you how useful it is to have a really good ferret around the base of the tree to look for old fruits if you can't find fruiting or flowering material on the branches.

RM

Eric Frei · 17th July 2011, 10:30 PM

Yeah, but the bark was throwing me off, how does the bark compare from pics I viewed it was different but it could vary slightly I suppose.

That leaf could also be a juvenile one, mature ones are slightly different. Probably the best match from the eucs I agree.

bill24 · 17th July 2011, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill24

An unqualified laymans opinion only, but if I saw it locally in East Gippsland I have a guess, from what I can see in the pics as a common "Red Box" tree.

Took a while to track down, I agree with cruisin long - "Red Box - Eucalyptus Polyanthemos"

See......Red Box - Eucalyptus Polyanthemos

Not exactly a scientific site, has some good pics.

Ace Master · 17th July 2011, 10:53 PM

2nd that, Red Box we have some in the local area aswell.

Very good firewood up their with the red gum.

ACE

Darrell Mcleod · 17th July 2011, 11:03 PM

Just did a site report full of them

Common in Eltham, Warrandyte Victoria

christie · 18th July 2011, 11:29 PM

You guys are awesome!!

I had initially thought red box but the bark threw me off when I went to confirm as there is quite a contrast between images and the lack of fruit as well. The subspecies vestita seems the closest match to what I have so I think I will run with that

Such a relief to be able to write my report! Thanks again!!

17th July 2011, 06:10 PM	#1
christie I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3	Help ID'ing this Eucalyptus (I think?) please.. Hi, I was just wondering if someone could please help me ID this tree, which I had assumed was a eucalypt but I have been going through exhausting amounts of info on eucalypt taxonomy and am stumped! It was found in the mouth of the Lerderderg State Forest in Victoria, Australia. I (stupidly) did a study of trunk circumference for a first year uni assignment and thought I had a good idea of the species but was woefully wrong and now I have heaps of data but no idea what tree it's all from!! Any help would be hugely appreciated - cheers Christie Attached Thumbnails

17th July 2011, 07:45 PM	#2
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Help ID'ing this Eucalyptus (I think?) please.. I have scoured my euc books and it stumps me too. Did it have caps (fruit) like a euc? Leaf is "sort of like" E platyphylla but the rest no way. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

17th July 2011, 07:54 PM	#3
christie I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3	Re: Help ID'ing this Eucalyptus (I think?) please.. Thanks for the reply No caps were present which has given a great deal of trouble in ID'ing it I am thinking its not a euc but am now at a loss with where to start as I am just starting my ecology subject and have not even touched plant taxonomy yet...

17th July 2011, 08:24 PM	#4
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Help ID'ing this Eucalyptus (I think?) please.. Take samples to the herbarium for ID __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

17th July 2011, 10:14 PM	#5
bill24 Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Victoria, AUST. Posts: 148	Re: Help ID'ing this Eucalyptus (I think?) please.. An unqualified laymans opinion only, but if I saw it locally in East Gippsland I have a guess, from what I can see in the pics as a common "Red Box" tree.

17th July 2011, 10:25 PM	#6
Darrell Mcleod Mature tree Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Victoria Australia Posts: 242	Re: Help ID'ing this Eucalyptus (I think?) please.. Eucalyptus polyanthemos - Red Box - I think

17th July 2011, 10:28 PM	#7
redmower Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: May 2010 Location: sub-tropical Queensland Posts: 75	Re: Help ID'ing this Eucalyptus (I think?) please.. Christie The photo of the leaf doesn't show how long the leaf stem really is. This may be a significant clue if it is not a Eucalypt. Are both sides of the leaf the same color? The photos of the bark and general tree shape are very useful to help in ID, a good habit to have. Can I suggest to you how useful it is to have a really good ferret around the base of the tree to look for old fruits if you can't find fruiting or flowering material on the branches. RM

17th July 2011, 10:30 PM	#8
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Help ID'ing this Eucalyptus (I think?) please.. Yeah, but the bark was throwing me off, how does the bark compare from pics I viewed it was different but it could vary slightly I suppose. That leaf could also be a juvenile one, mature ones are slightly different. Probably the best match from the eucs I agree. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

17th July 2011, 10:53 PM	#10
Ace Master Mature tree Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia, Vic, Melbourne Posts: 385	Re: Help ID'ing this Eucalyptus (I think?) please.. 2nd that, Red Box we have some in the local area aswell. Very good firewood up their with the red gum. ACE __________________ Website: The Mt Dandenong Ranges Tree Specialists YouTube: Ace Tree Master

17th July 2011, 11:03 PM	#11
Darrell Mcleod Mature tree Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Victoria Australia Posts: 242	Re: Help ID'ing this Eucalyptus (I think?) please.. Just did a site report full of them Common in Eltham, Warrandyte Victoria

18th July 2011, 11:29 PM	#12
christie I'm new here so be nice Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3	Re: Help ID'ing this Eucalyptus (I think?) please.. You guys are awesome!! I had initially thought red box but the bark threw me off when I went to confirm as there is quite a contrast between images and the lack of fruit as well. The subspecies vestita seems the closest match to what I have so I think I will run with that Such a relief to be able to write my report! Thanks again!!

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