Help identifying these trees

tonwillow · 29th January 2012, 08:17 PM

Hello

I need help identifying these two trees which are located in Sydney, Australia.

The first tree is about 20m tall with a very wide tree cover. The tree has small leaves with jagged edges (see pic).

The second tree is some sort of pine tree. Which species is this?

Thank you.

Darrell Mcleod · 29th January 2012, 09:05 PM

First one could be a Beech and second a pine

swordsta · 29th January 2012, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonwillow

Hello

I need help identifying these two trees which are located in Sydney, Australia.

The first tree is about 20m tall with a very wide tree cover. The tree has small leaves with jagged edges (see pic).

The second tree is some sort of pine tree. Which species is this?

Thank you.

The second tree looks like either a Pinus sylvestris or a Pinus densiflora, I would need to see buds to confirm. Ill get back to you on the first tree, Ive seen one in South Africa I think so would need to back track on my Ident folder.

swordsta · 29th January 2012, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrell Mcleod

First one could be a Beech and second a pine

First one is not a Fagus sylvatica.

tonwillow · 29th January 2012, 09:39 PM

Just did a google search and I think the leaves from the first tree is not from a Fagus sylvatica.

Regarding the pine tree, initially I thought maybe it could be a Pinus radiata? I will see if I can get more detailed pictures. Why I think it may not be a Pinus sylvestris is because the pine cones don't appear to be as pointy as a Pinus sylvestris?

Thanks.

swordsta · 29th January 2012, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tonwillow

Just did a google search and I think the leaves from the first tree is not from a Fagus sylvatica.

Regarding the pine tree, initially I thought maybe it could be a Pinus radiata? I will see if I can get more detailed pictures. Why I think it may not be a Pinus sylvestris is because the pine cones don't appear to be as pointy as a Pinus sylvestris?

Thanks.

Ye, its definately not a Fagus, its also not a radiata, Sylvestris cone are more pointy in the younger years. but as the tree mature they round out. Radiata are short and squat.

Steve Galehouse · 30th January 2012, 01:14 AM

The first looks like a Zelkova, either serrata or carpinifolia. It's hard to tell which pine from the photos.

Bowani Siam · 30th January 2012, 08:49 AM

The first one looks like Ulmus parvifolia.

The second one could definitely be Pinus radiata as you say, they are all over the place in Sydney. Have you spotted any Yellow-tailed Black Cockatoos in the tree?!

Brent Ferris · 30th January 2012, 06:01 PM

I thought Pinus radiata was a three needled pine, and the pic looks like 5 needles per cluster. How long are the needles?
Ulmus parvifolia is a possibility. What are the dimensions of the leaves? Do you have any pics of the fruit?

Darrell Mcleod · 30th January 2012, 08:36 PM

Ulmus parvifolia

Looks like it to me too

tonwillow · 30th January 2012, 09:10 PM

The needles are about 8 cm in length.

About the other tree, I don't see any fruit on it (not now anyway). The leaves certainly look like Ulmus parvifolia, but its lacking those little green leaves? The size of the leaves on this tree are about 5cm long and 3cm at its widest point.

swordsta · 31st January 2012, 03:32 AM

Is there a salmon pink on the bark anywhere.

Bowani Siam · 31st January 2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by treeshaveneeds

I thought Pinus radiata was a three needled pine, and the pic looks like 5 needles per cluster.

hahahaha I thought there were three needles and their shadows. Hahahahaah I need to get my eyes checked!!!!!!

Also, the little 'green leaves' are the fruits developing.

29th January 2012, 08:17 PM	#1
tonwillow Sappling Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 5	Help identifying these trees Hello I need help identifying these two trees which are located in Sydney, Australia. The first tree is about 20m tall with a very wide tree cover. The tree has small leaves with jagged edges (see pic). The second tree is some sort of pine tree. Which species is this? Thank you. Attached Thumbnails

29th January 2012, 09:05 PM	#2
Darrell Mcleod Mature tree Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Victoria Australia Posts: 242	Re: Help identifying these trees First one could be a Beech and second a pine

29th January 2012, 09:39 PM	#5
tonwillow Sappling Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 5	Re: Help identifying these trees Just did a google search and I think the leaves from the first tree is not from a Fagus sylvatica. Regarding the pine tree, initially I thought maybe it could be a Pinus radiata? I will see if I can get more detailed pictures. Why I think it may not be a Pinus sylvestris is because the pine cones don't appear to be as pointy as a Pinus sylvestris? Thanks.

30th January 2012, 01:14 AM	#7
Steve Galehouse Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Bay Village, Ohio Posts: 70	Re: Help identifying these trees The first looks like a Zelkova, either serrata or carpinifolia. It's hard to tell which pine from the photos.

30th January 2012, 08:49 AM	#8
Bowani Siam Mature tree Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sydney Posts: 320	Re: Help identifying these trees The first one looks like Ulmus parvifolia. The second one could definitely be Pinus radiata as you say, they are all over the place in Sydney. Have you spotted any Yellow-tailed Black Cockatoos in the tree?!

30th January 2012, 06:01 PM	#9
Brent Ferris Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,557	Re: Help identifying these trees I thought Pinus radiata was a three needled pine, and the pic looks like 5 needles per cluster. How long are the needles? Ulmus parvifolia is a possibility. What are the dimensions of the leaves? Do you have any pics of the fruit? __________________ My business: Tree Pruning and Removals -- Strump Removals -- Advice -- Consulting -- Arborist Reports Consulting Forester If you want an honest opinion, call Brent Ferris...because, Trees want to Live Too ! We do great jobs, even in small yards. Free Estimates Oakville to Oshawa - North to Bradford (Will travel further if cost of travelling covered) Email -- treeshaveneeds@3web.com Cell 416-460-5704

30th January 2012, 08:36 PM	#10
Darrell Mcleod Mature tree Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Victoria Australia Posts: 242	Re: Help identifying these trees Ulmus parvifolia Looks like it to me too Attached Thumbnails

30th January 2012, 09:10 PM	#11
tonwillow Sappling Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 5	Re: Help identifying these trees The needles are about 8 cm in length. About the other tree, I don't see any fruit on it (not now anyway). The leaves certainly look like Ulmus parvifolia, but its lacking those little green leaves? The size of the leaves on this tree are about 5cm long and 3cm at its widest point.

31st January 2012, 03:32 AM	#12
swordsta Sappling Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: cardiff Posts: 14	Re: Help identifying these trees Is there a salmon pink on the bark anywhere.

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