help identify this tree, im dying to know!

treelover100

ive been wondering for 10 years what kind of tree this is. i finally took some pictures of it so i hope this can help you to help me find out what it is!
this is a baby that sprung up next to it, it has tiny white spots, just like the fruit berries on the bigger tree has tiny white dots on the berries.








in one picture you can see the leaves are smooth on the edges and in another piocture (on the same tree) the leaves are very jaggedly edged.
ive looked online many times in the past and got discouraged not finding any answer.

hope you can figure it out. thanks!

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Eric Frei

What is your location?

Makes a difference, possibly Australia then I'd say the 1st tree is Waterhousia floribunda and the second a weed called Tecoma sans.

Over all picture of the entire tree will help.

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TheTreeGuru

hi, im pretty sure it is Fraxinus angustifolia - Desert Ash, or could be sub species Oxycarpa, if in australia that is definetly it, commonly called the Ceder Berry tree,
It IS regarded as a weed but is commonly planted as an ornamental tree and shade tree, they are great but can be messy when they drop their leaves

TheTreeGuru

yes the seeds and roots will send up shoots all around your garden.

treelover100

oops sorry forgot to say location is georgia, united states.

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treelover100

ive looked at pictures of many ash varieties and none seem to match the look of this one.

Eric Frei

What about this?

radermachera sinica China doll - Google Images

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Bernard Keays

Could it be a Neem Tree?

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kiwi_tree_steve

could be Melia azedarach Commonly called Persian Lilac, White Cedar, Chinaberry or Bead Tree.
leaves fruit and bark all seem similer to me.

what colour are the Flowers?

looking again, im fairly sure it is now.

thats my 2cents worth

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treekiwi

I agree with Steve, definately looks like a melia. Bark, leaves, stem and berries are all consistent...

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kiwi_tree_steve

if we knew what colour the flowers are it would help alot!!!

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stirmantrees

Definitely with steve on this one as well. In fact i was cutting on quite a few today at a apartment complex. In FLorida it is listed as an exotic invasive species.
Some city officers actually can force you to cut one down if your trying to get a permit for other trees.

stirmantrees

weak brittle wood. loves to take over native habitats and grows really fast.
Where is this tree native to?

kiwi_tree_steve

heres what i say..... cuts like butter , light as wood, bit scary knowing this...... lol ' real pain in the ass to chip and clean up those dammed ball'y fruits im sure ive seen them planted as street trees here in hamilton..??? sumone might know..... matty?


heres what wikipidia says:

Commonly called Persian Lilac, White Cedar, Chinaberry or Bead Tree, Lunumidella, Ceylon Cedar, Melia azedarach(syn. M. australis, M. japonica, M. sempervivens, M. dubia ), is a deciduous tree in the mahogany family Meliaceae, native to India, southern China and Australia. In South Africa it is commonly but erroneously called Syringa, which is in fact the lilac genus. The genus Melia includes four other species, occurring from southeast Asia to northern Australia. They are all deciduous or semi-evergreen trees.


Indian Grey Hornbill Ocyceros birostris eating its fruit at Roorkee in Haridwar District of Uttarakhand, India.
The adult tree has a rounded crown, and measures between 7 and 12 metres in height. The flowers are small and fragrant, with five pale purple or lilac petals, growing in clusters. The fruit is a drupe, marble-sized, light yellow at maturity, hanging on the tree all winter, and gradually becoming wrinkled and almost white. In Australian rainforests, Melia azedarach can attain a height of 45 metres.[1]


leaves & green fruit in Kolkata, West Bengal, India.
The leaves are up to 50 cm long, alternate, long-petioled, 2 or 3 times compound (odd-pinnate); the leaflets are dark green above and lighter green below, with serrate margins. They have been used as a natural insecticide to keep with stored food, but must not be eaten as they are highly poisonous. A diluted infusion of leaves and trees has been used in the past to induce uterus relaxation.

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Robert STAVROU

Afternoon, appears to be a Melia; keep your eyes open for larger specimens as it is a remarkable cabinet timber (and not an issue as they are environmental weeds in your locality) STAV

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TheTreeGuru

Yep I asked my TAFE Teacher, It Is wat Steve_The_Kiwi Said, Ceder, without a doubt

treelover100

Thank you very much everyone for all your help! I feel great knowing what it is now. I know where to come if i need more id's in the future!
I apologize for the size of the pics.

Thanks again!

Bernard Keays

I agree with Steve. May be I was wrong...

Azadirachta indica - Google Images

Neem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Treeson

Definately go with Steve's suggestion of Melia azederach. Great trees in the right setting, can be messy though.
Popular in Tauranga aswell as Hamilton as smaller growing street trees.

I'll throw another common name in just to mix it up a bit -Indian bead tree.