Guess the tree from the seed and fruit

Garry Brockley · 31st May 2009, 01:01 PM

Just thought i would throw it out there see who knows what these are from.

Eric Frei · 31st May 2009, 08:03 PM

They're off an itchy piece of shit fishtail palm!

Bernard Keays · 31st May 2009, 08:21 PM

Galbee,

Looks like a palm. Petty hard without the leaves or trunk!

My first thoughts are Livistona australis (cabbage palm).

Palm and Cycad Societies of Australia

Garry Brockley · 1st June 2009, 07:57 AM

spot on eric the beautiful fishtail palm (caryota)

cleaned a few of these last week twenty on a 450m block

Garry Brockley · 1st June 2009, 08:01 AM

Ok what is this off then, i hadn't seen one until i went to this job.

Eric Frei · 1st June 2009, 08:53 AM

Wild guess, no checking ... Kentia palm.

Garry Brockley · 1st June 2009, 08:20 PM

ah this is no fun your id is too good, nice one

Bernard Keays · 1st June 2009, 09:14 PM

Galbee,

Got any more?

Eric Frei · 1st June 2009, 10:57 PM

Yeah, just lay off the palms though .... I'm so over them that I don't notice much anymore what the berries look like.

Garry Brockley · 3rd June 2009, 07:55 AM

On their way bernard soon as this flamiin rain stops

Bob Tooley · 3rd June 2009, 08:43 AM

They're seeds from a 'palm plant'... palms don't qualify for 'tree' status, but rather they are in the 'large plant' family..... Old college professors use to be very proud of having students slip up on that one....along with their "how does nitrogen get into the ground.. naturally ?"

Garry Brockley · 3rd June 2009, 08:00 PM

ok ok fair enough palms dont qualify as trees but thier ident is hard if you dont know them, so here you go this does qualify as a tree.

Bernard Keays · 3rd June 2009, 08:25 PM

Galbee,

Looks like Leucaena leucocephala (leucaena).

Garry Brockley · 3rd June 2009, 08:49 PM

Good id bernard

Hows about this Tree havn't seen one of these for eight or nine years and today there were three in a row.

Bernard Keays · 3rd June 2009, 10:27 PM

Galbee,

Not sure... I think you've got me.

Is it a Cassia fistula or something similar?

Eric Frei · 3rd June 2009, 10:28 PM

The Cassia fistula pods are larger, the trees leaves are larger ... this tree has smaller leaves.

Eric Frei · 8th June 2009, 05:23 PM

OK I went and drove there to get some pics.

Here you go, proof.

Sean Freeman · 8th June 2009, 05:35 PM

Cassia javonica, I think.

Eric Frei · 8th June 2009, 05:44 PM

Ah ha!

But trying to tell the difference between fistula, javonica and leptophylla by juvenile seed pods is near impossible.

Here's the mature ready to fall seed pod of the leptophylla, note the foliage similarity however the leaflets are different if you look closely.

Bernard Keays · 17th July 2009, 08:52 PM

Galbee,

Here's another Cassia.

Eric Frei · 17th July 2009, 08:54 PM

Bernard, edit your post and add the picture!

Sean Freeman · 18th July 2009, 12:22 AM

C brewsteri is a very pretty tree....

Garry Brockley · 18th July 2009, 07:49 AM

those flowers are beautiful but they would be a pain to clean up. sorry always thinking practical.

Sean Freeman · 18th July 2009, 07:59 AM

Galbee they really don't last long once they fall from the tree, seem to be broken down very quickly...I quess if you had the tree over your pool or new BMW then perhaps it could be demanding during blossom fall, but they are not particularly messy IMO, certainly less than other Cassias.

It is a shame they are not more easily available from nurseries, if you have enough room in your garden bed these natives make a great show during the year.

Garry Brockley · 18th July 2009, 08:06 AM

how big are the seed pods? is it a fast growing species?

Garry Brockley · 18th July 2009, 08:12 AM

i ve just realised thats the leichardt bean isnt it! i saw one up the coast and went to investigate in the neighbours garden ended uphaving a coffee with the owner of the tree and got a full history of the garden from the last 60 years, but it wasnt in flower pity.

Sean Freeman · 18th July 2009, 08:13 AM

Yes Leichardt bean....Narrow pods about 15mm diameter maybe 300mm long, mine has never really produced large volumes of seed.

Once established they grow reasonably well, in my experience not quick like a forest pioneer though.

Tilia · 19th July 2009, 10:27 AM

Is there a catalpa sp. in this photo jambroee somewhere?

Bernard Keays · 2nd November 2009, 06:45 PM

Galbee,

Here's another Cassia.

Bernard Keays · 18th January 2010, 10:54 PM

Galbee,

Here's another Cassia.

31st May 2009, 01:01 PM	#1
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,649	Guess the tree from the seed and fruit Just thought i would throw it out there see who knows what these are from. Attached Thumbnails __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

31st May 2009, 08:03 PM	#2
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit They're off an itchy piece of shit fishtail palm! __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

31st May 2009, 08:21 PM	#3
Bernard Keays Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Glasshouse Posts: 193	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit Galbee, Looks like a palm. Petty hard without the leaves or trunk! My first thoughts are Livistona australis (cabbage palm). Palm and Cycad Societies of Australia __________________ Bernie

1st June 2009, 07:57 AM	#4
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,649	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit spot on eric the beautiful fishtail palm (caryota) cleaned a few of these last week twenty on a 450m block Attached Thumbnails __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

1st June 2009, 08:01 AM	#5
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,649	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit Ok what is this off then, i hadn't seen one until i went to this job. Attached Thumbnails __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

1st June 2009, 08:53 AM	#6
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit Wild guess, no checking ... Kentia palm. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

1st June 2009, 08:20 PM	#7
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,649	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit ah this is no fun your id is too good, nice one __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

1st June 2009, 09:14 PM	#8
Bernard Keays Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Glasshouse Posts: 193	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit Galbee, Got any more? __________________ Bernie

1st June 2009, 10:57 PM	#9
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit Yeah, just lay off the palms though .... I'm so over them that I don't notice much anymore what the berries look like. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

3rd June 2009, 07:55 AM	#10
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,649	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit On their way bernard soon as this flamiin rain stops __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

3rd June 2009, 08:43 AM	#11
Bob Tooley Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: May 2009 Location: Scarborough, Maine USA Posts: 128	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit They're seeds from a 'palm plant'... palms don't qualify for 'tree' status, but rather they are in the 'large plant' family..... Old college professors use to be very proud of having students slip up on that one....along with their "how does nitrogen get into the ground.. naturally ?"

3rd June 2009, 08:00 PM	#12
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,649	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit ok ok fair enough palms dont qualify as trees but thier ident is hard if you dont know them, so here you go this does qualify as a tree. Attached Thumbnails __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

3rd June 2009, 08:25 PM	#13
Bernard Keays Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Glasshouse Posts: 193	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit Galbee, Looks like Leucaena leucocephala (leucaena). __________________ Bernie

3rd June 2009, 08:49 PM	#14
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,649	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit Good id bernard Hows about this Tree havn't seen one of these for eight or nine years and today there were three in a row. Attached Thumbnails __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

3rd June 2009, 10:27 PM	#15
Bernard Keays Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Glasshouse Posts: 193	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit Galbee, Not sure... I think you've got me. Is it a Cassia fistula or something similar? __________________ Bernie

3rd June 2009, 10:28 PM	#16
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit The Cassia fistula pods are larger, the trees leaves are larger ... this tree has smaller leaves. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

8th June 2009, 05:23 PM	#17
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit OK I went and drove there to get some pics. Here you go, proof. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

8th June 2009, 05:35 PM	#18
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit Cassia javonica, I think.

8th June 2009, 05:44 PM	#19
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	cassia fistula, javonica and leptophylla comparisons Ah ha! But trying to tell the difference between fistula, javonica and leptophylla by juvenile seed pods is near impossible. Here's the mature ready to fall seed pod of the leptophylla, note the foliage similarity however the leaflets are different if you look closely. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

17th July 2009, 08:52 PM	#20
Bernard Keays Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Glasshouse Posts: 193	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit Galbee, Here's another Cassia. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Bernie Last edited by Jeff Darby; 18th July 2009 at 11:25 AM. Reason: embeded pictures

17th July 2009, 08:54 PM	#21
Eric Frei Admin - Razor sharp and independent 2 X Diploma Level 5 qualified arborist Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,820	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit Bernard, edit your post and add the picture! __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

18th July 2009, 12:22 AM	#22
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit C brewsteri is a very pretty tree.... Attached Thumbnails

18th July 2009, 07:49 AM	#23
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,649	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit those flowers are beautiful but they would be a pain to clean up. sorry always thinking practical. __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

18th July 2009, 07:59 AM	#24
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit Galbee they really don't last long once they fall from the tree, seem to be broken down very quickly...I quess if you had the tree over your pool or new BMW then perhaps it could be demanding during blossom fall, but they are not particularly messy IMO, certainly less than other Cassias. It is a shame they are not more easily available from nurseries, if you have enough room in your garden bed these natives make a great show during the year.

18th July 2009, 08:06 AM	#25
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,649	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit how big are the seed pods? is it a fast growing species? __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

18th July 2009, 08:12 AM	#26
Garry Brockley Bayside Tree Care Brisbane Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Brisbane Aus Posts: 1,649	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit i ve just realised thats the leichardt bean isnt it! i saw one up the coast and went to investigate in the neighbours garden ended uphaving a coffee with the owner of the tree and got a full history of the garden from the last 60 years, but it wasnt in flower pity. __________________ My business:- Brisbane Bayside Tree Care

18th July 2009, 08:13 AM	#27
Sean Freeman Monument Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,985	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit Yes Leichardt bean....Narrow pods about 15mm diameter maybe 300mm long, mine has never really produced large volumes of seed. Once established they grow reasonably well, in my experience not quick like a forest pioneer though.

19th July 2009, 10:27 AM	#28
Tilia Sappling Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brisbane Posts: 47	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit Is there a catalpa sp. in this photo jambroee somewhere?

2nd November 2009, 06:45 PM	#29
Bernard Keays Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Glasshouse Posts: 193	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit Galbee, Here's another Cassia. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Bernie

18th January 2010, 10:54 PM	#30
Bernard Keays Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Glasshouse Posts: 193	Re: Guess the tree from the seed and fruit Galbee, Here's another Cassia. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Bernie

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