Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig

Jeff Darby · 18th May 2008, 09:04 PM

Hi Folks,
Have a look at this healthy specimen situated at little st Forster NSW,

Enjoy

Eric Frei · 18th May 2008, 09:34 PM

That is a ripper, you got any closer up?

Jeff Darby · 18th May 2008, 10:01 PM

Yep sure have, Here you go.

Enjoy

Eric Frei · 18th May 2008, 10:30 PM

Yeah, she's in pretty good nick that one ... even growing a couple of legs.

Sean Freeman · 19th May 2008, 12:00 AM

What a beauty....

newguy18 · 19th May 2008, 12:25 AM

Thats a good looking tree,wish we had some around here like that.

TrevMcRev · 19th May 2008, 08:35 AM

Nice find JD.

Bernard Keays · 19th May 2008, 07:56 PM

Nice tree. Won't mind planting a few of these babies. Does any one know of a nursery that grows them?

macrocarpa · 19th May 2008, 09:10 PM

JayD,

You sure its a F.rubiginosa?????? Looks a whole lot like a F. macrophylla to me; longer petioles and peduncles, bigger leaves, smooth fruit not warty. Sorry to be a picky pain in the butt. Still a mightily impressive tree though.

Wonder if you could transplant something that big?

Macro

Jeff Darby · 19th May 2008, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macrocarpa

JayD,

You sure its a F.rubiginosa?????? Looks a whole lot like a F. macrophylla to me; longer petioles and peduncles, bigger leaves, smooth fruit not warty. Sorry to be a picky pain in the butt. Still a mightily impressive tree though.

Wonder if you could transplant something that big?

Macro

I will be back at Forster this weekend so I will double check.Will take some more pictures.

caldera · 23rd September 2008, 09:56 AM

looks like Ficus macrophylla to me

my favourite genus in the whole wide world

Jeff Darby · 23rd September 2008, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caldera

looks like Ficus macrophylla to me

my favourite genus in the whole wide world

This is the site I based my I.D on http://anpsa.org.au/f-mac.html

philinsydney · 23rd September 2008, 07:19 PM

I'd say definitely F. macrophylla

Jeff Darby · 23rd September 2008, 07:57 PM

OK, Like I said I I.D this Ficus from the site linked,If indeed it is wrong it's allways easy to change the name of the thread,but first lets make sure.

Here are some more pictures I took of it last time in Forster.

Done it · 23rd September 2008, 08:30 PM

Yours looks like a Moreton Bay to me, but that is a good site, actually I just told treekiwi about it.

I've always thought this was a Port Jackson, but I'm no fig expert, there's too many.

http://www.treeworld.info/attachment...1&d=1222161661

Eric Frei · 23rd September 2008, 08:31 PM

Source: issg Database: Similar Species to Ficus rubiginosa

Quote:

The EBOP (UNDATED) states that, "F. rubiginosa can be identified from Morton Bay fig (Ficus macrophylla) by the smaller, hairy leaves, and smaller fruit." The two species are quite easy to separate at a glance. F. macrophylla has much larger syconia of 18 - 26 mm long and 15 - 24 mm diameter (compared to 7.4 - 17.3 mm long and 7.6 - 17.3 mm diameter for F. rubiginosa) that have distinctive pale spots when mature (Dixon 2001). The darker green adaxial lamina surface contrasts strongly with the lighter green abaxial surface with its distinctive ferruginous hairs. While the two species have some overlap in leaf morphology, F. macrophylla usually has considerably larger leaves and longer petioles. F. macrophylla has expanded its Australian range to urban areas of South Australia, Victoria and Western Australia (McPherson 2004), and has naturalised in New Zealand (Gardner and Early 1996, Early 2000) and Hawai'i (PIER 2005).

http://www.botany.hawaii.edu/herbari...biginosa_w.pdf

willem · 23rd September 2008, 09:08 PM

Impressive those figs. Overhere I only see them indoors in small pots. But maybe with the planet heating up I should be considering to start up a nursery.
Are there any species which can withstand frost??

macrocarpa · 23rd September 2008, 09:28 PM

Gents,
I am sure the tree in JayD's piccies is a fine example of F. macrophylla, the giveaway being the long stalks on the fruit. The fruit of F. rubiginosa are borne on very short stalks and are almost sessile. Got digging around in the bosses library and 3 different references all cited this point. Forest Trees of Australia - Boland et al, Trees and Shrubs in R'Forests of NSW and SE Qld - J B Williams and Rainforest Trees - A G Floyd. The photo cited by JayD is also a F. macrophylla. Thus it would appear in this case that the ASGAP site is incorrect. From a distance the specimen in Done It's photo is a Ficus microcarpa var. 'Hillii', then again it may be F. microcarpa var. microcarpa!!! Definitely not a Port Jackson.

Cheers,
Macro

Done it · 23rd September 2008, 10:40 PM

Keep them in a pot Willem, or this is what you get,

They sure look like these before they're let loose,

emaho trees :: products :: FICUS rubiginosa (Port Jackson Fig)

willem · 24th September 2008, 05:34 AM

Maybe I have to be thinking of reinforcing my pots with concrete to keep the roots in

Jeff Darby · 24th September 2008, 09:09 AM

Hi Folks,
I have changed the initial title of this thread to conform with our group I.D,also have emailed the site and informed them of our group I.D of their pictures presented as Ficus rubiginosa.We wait to hear from them.

newguy18 · 24th September 2008, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willem

Maybe I have to be thinking of reinforcing my pots with concrete to keep the roots in

yeah that might help.

Jeff Darby · 24th September 2008, 05:35 PM

Out of curiosity I just tried my link and guess what?? The url I linked to no longer egzists on their server...hmmmm,no comment here either.

Done it · 24th September 2008, 06:54 PM

Thats funny it was working last night.

I just went there, no Port Jackson Fig listed, but there is a Morton Bay Fig with a "NEW" star next to it listed, I guess someone got

Jeff Darby · 24th September 2008, 10:27 PM

This is the responce I recieved from Brian W.

Thank you Brian for your email,we understand correct I.D is hard at times especially with some species of tree's there's not much differance between them sometimes the lenght of the peduncle to the colour of petiole.This is the beuty of Treeworld being dynamic forum which helps in matters concerning Arboriculture.
All The Best
JayD

Quote:

Thanks for the message.

Since we started the ASGAP website in 1995, the site has grown to well over 1000 pages and hundreds of photos. We try to get things right but errors undoubtedly creep in - so I'm always happy to receive feedback.

I think you are correct about the plant being F.macrophylla. When I identified the plant originally, I based the ID on the characteristics of the fruit and thought F.rubiginosa was correct as the fruit had a warty appearance and a slight nipple at the tip, which are characteristics of F.rubiginosa (these aren't particularly obvious in the photo on the website but can be seen in the larger image that I have). Unfortunately I failed to note the length of the stalks on the fruit which, I think, definitely confirms that it is F.macrophylla.

I've now replaced the original link with a new link for Ficus macrophylla. You'll find it here:

Ficus macrophylla

Please pass on my thanks to the Tree World discussion group.

Eric Frei · 25th September 2008, 07:24 AM

Well that's nice ... did you get a link from their site to here?

If not, please ask, it's the least they can do.

Please ask for the anchor text of the link to be "Tree World Arborist Forum" and link to the home page like so http://www.treeworld.info

caldera · 1st October 2008, 10:26 AM

the guy is spot on ... there is HEAPS of variability amongst Ficus species... especially Ficus macrophylla and Ficus obliqua (small-leafed fig which sometimes has really small leaves, and sometimes has leaves closer to Ficus rubiginosa

Ficus dont like frost, my plantings back home indicate that Ficus watkinsiana (the common rainforest strangler) will not tolerate frost at all when young (none of them will when really small)

certain forms of Ficus obliqua are pretty frost tolerent and definitely Ficus superba (Deciduous fig) are petty hardy around Kyogle (northern nsw) where we got a -7 degree frost last year

here's a nice-sized small-leafed fig growing 'naturally' within a rainforest eco-system (me and my dad on fathers day last year) ... Border Ranges National Park (Coxen's fig-parrot country)

caldera · 1st October 2008, 10:34 AM

and here is a decidous fig (which would be loosing it's leaves RIGHT NOW, and then regrows them within a week or so)

Ficus superba var. henneana

strangling the BIGGEST black tea tree I have EVER seen (Melaleuca bracteata) still hasn't strangled it to "death" and my dad said this tree was basically the same size when he was a kid .... tough tree aye

willem · 2nd October 2008, 02:30 AM

Thanks for the frostinfo and cool pictures

Jeff Darby · 8th October 2008, 12:33 PM

Hi Folk's,
I'm back in Forster again for a week taking a break from work,NOT, Arboriculture..LOL..check out this specimem I found high in this palm,no doubt a product of air mail..LOL.It would make a great Bonsia plant.Enjoy.

18th May 2008, 09:04 PM	#1
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,059	Ficus macrophylla / Moreton Bay fig Hi Folks, Have a look at this healthy specimen situated at little st Forster NSW, Enjoy Attached Thumbnails __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011 Last edited by Jeff Darby; 18th December 2010 at 05:06 PM. Reason: I.D correction

18th May 2008, 09:34 PM	#2
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig That is a ripper, you got any closer up? __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

18th May 2008, 10:01 PM	#3
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,059	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Yep sure have, Here you go. Enjoy Attached Thumbnails __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

18th May 2008, 10:30 PM	#4
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Yeah, she's in pretty good nick that one ... even growing a couple of legs. __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

19th May 2008, 12:00 AM	#5
Sean Freeman Veteran Heritage Status Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Townsville Nth Queensland & Gold Coast Sth Queensland Posts: 1,981	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig What a beauty....

19th May 2008, 12:25 AM	#6
newguy18 Part of the Furniture Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: orlando,fl Posts: 4,948	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Thats a good looking tree,wish we had some around here like that. __________________ Have your say join us today. old schooler

19th May 2008, 08:35 AM	#7
TrevMcRev Mature Tree Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Posts: 1,594	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Nice find JD.

19th May 2008, 07:56 PM	#8
Bernard Keays Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Glasshouse Posts: 193	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Nice tree. Won't mind planting a few of these babies. Does any one know of a nursery that grows them? __________________ Bernie

19th May 2008, 09:10 PM	#9
macrocarpa Sappling Join Date: May 2008 Location: brisbane Posts: 9	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig JayD, You sure its a F.rubiginosa?????? Looks a whole lot like a F. macrophylla to me; longer petioles and peduncles, bigger leaves, smooth fruit not warty. Sorry to be a picky pain in the butt. Still a mightily impressive tree though. Wonder if you could transplant something that big? Macro

23rd September 2008, 09:56 AM	#11
caldera Sappling Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: north qld - australia Posts: 13	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig looks like Ficus macrophylla to me my favourite genus in the whole wide world

23rd September 2008, 07:19 PM	#13
philinsydney Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 110	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig I'd say definitely F. macrophylla

23rd September 2008, 07:57 PM	#14
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,059	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig OK, Like I said I I.D this Ficus from the site linked,If indeed it is wrong it's allways easy to change the name of the thread,but first lets make sure. Here are some more pictures I took of it last time in Forster. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

23rd September 2008, 08:30 PM	#15
Done it Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Australia. Posts: 780	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Yours looks like a Moreton Bay to me, but that is a good site, actually I just told treekiwi about it. I've always thought this was a Port Jackson, but I'm no fig expert, there's too many. http://www.treeworld.info/attachment...1&d=1222161661 Attached Thumbnails

23rd September 2008, 09:08 PM	#17
willem Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: the netherlands Posts: 187	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Impressive those figs. Overhere I only see them indoors in small pots. But maybe with the planet heating up I should be considering to start up a nursery. Are there any species which can withstand frost??

23rd September 2008, 09:28 PM	#18
macrocarpa Sappling Join Date: May 2008 Location: brisbane Posts: 9	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Gents, I am sure the tree in JayD's piccies is a fine example of F. macrophylla, the giveaway being the long stalks on the fruit. The fruit of F. rubiginosa are borne on very short stalks and are almost sessile. Got digging around in the bosses library and 3 different references all cited this point. Forest Trees of Australia - Boland et al, Trees and Shrubs in R'Forests of NSW and SE Qld - J B Williams and Rainforest Trees - A G Floyd. The photo cited by JayD is also a F. macrophylla. Thus it would appear in this case that the ASGAP site is incorrect. From a distance the specimen in Done It's photo is a Ficus microcarpa var. 'Hillii', then again it may be F. microcarpa var. microcarpa!!! Definitely not a Port Jackson. Cheers, Macro

23rd September 2008, 10:40 PM	#19
Done it Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Australia. Posts: 780	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Keep them in a pot Willem, or this is what you get, They sure look like these before they're let loose, emaho trees :: products :: FICUS rubiginosa (Port Jackson Fig) Attached Thumbnails

24th September 2008, 05:34 AM	#20
willem Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: the netherlands Posts: 187	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Maybe I have to be thinking of reinforcing my pots with concrete to keep the roots in

24th September 2008, 09:09 AM	#21
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,059	Re: Ficus macropyhlla / Moreton Bay fig Hi Folks, I have changed the initial title of this thread to conform with our group I.D,also have emailed the site and informed them of our group I.D of their pictures presented as Ficus rubiginosa.We wait to hear from them. __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011

24th September 2008, 05:35 PM	#23
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,059	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Out of curiosity I just tried my link and guess what?? The url I linked to no longer egzists on their server...hmmmm,no comment here either. __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011 Last edited by Jeff Darby; 24th September 2008 at 06:16 PM.

24th September 2008, 06:54 PM	#24
Done it Over mature heritage tree Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Australia. Posts: 780	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Thats funny it was working last night. I just went there, no Port Jackson Fig listed, but there is a Morton Bay Fig with a "NEW" star next to it listed, I guess someone got

25th September 2008, 07:24 AM	#26
Eric Frei Admin - Owner Palm & Tree Services in Brisbane Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Brisbane Posts: 12,994	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Well that's nice ... did you get a link from their site to here? If not, please ask, it's the least they can do. Please ask for the anchor text of the link to be "Tree World Arborist Forum" and link to the home page like so http://www.treeworld.info __________________ Protect your rights to work - Join Australian Tree Association My businesses:- Qualified Brisbane Palm and Tree Lopping \| Stump Grinding Brisbane \| Brisbane - Gold Coast Consulting Arborist

1st October 2008, 10:26 AM	#27
caldera Sappling Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: north qld - australia Posts: 13	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig the guy is spot on ... there is HEAPS of variability amongst Ficus species... especially Ficus macrophylla and Ficus obliqua (small-leafed fig which sometimes has really small leaves, and sometimes has leaves closer to Ficus rubiginosa Ficus dont like frost, my plantings back home indicate that Ficus watkinsiana (the common rainforest strangler) will not tolerate frost at all when young (none of them will when really small) certain forms of Ficus obliqua are pretty frost tolerent and definitely Ficus superba (Deciduous fig) are petty hardy around Kyogle (northern nsw) where we got a -7 degree frost last year here's a nice-sized small-leafed fig growing 'naturally' within a rainforest eco-system (me and my dad on fathers day last year) ... Border Ranges National Park (Coxen's fig-parrot country)

1st October 2008, 10:34 AM	#28
caldera Sappling Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: north qld - australia Posts: 13	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig and here is a decidous fig (which would be loosing it's leaves RIGHT NOW, and then regrows them within a week or so) Ficus superba var. henneana strangling the BIGGEST black tea tree I have EVER seen (Melaleuca bracteata) still hasn't strangled it to "death" and my dad said this tree was basically the same size when he was a kid .... tough tree aye

2nd October 2008, 02:30 AM	#29
willem Semi-mature vigorous tree Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: the netherlands Posts: 187	Re: Ficus rubiginosa / Port Jackson fig Thanks for the frostinfo and cool pictures

8th October 2008, 12:33 PM	#30
Jeff Darby Moderator - Previously known as JayD Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: TreeWorld, Sydney Australia Posts: 2,059	Re: Ficus spp/Epiphytic roots ? Hi Folk's, I'm back in Forster again for a week taking a break from work,NOT, Arboriculture..LOL..check out this specimem I found high in this palm,no doubt a product of air mail..LOL.It would make a great Bonsia plant.Enjoy. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Member: Australian Tree Association Join the Australian Tree Association...Have your voice heard ! Arboriculture, A life long study for some, a passing phase for others © Jeffrey J Darby 2011 Last edited by Jeff Darby; 10th April 2010 at 03:40 PM.

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